2025-26 NFL Thread

[MU82]

His offense has been figured out, and he doesn't realize it.

Same thing happened to McCarthy and then the Packers kept him around for two more years because they had Rodgers to hide it.

Sounds like all the Packers have to do is bring back Rodgers.

[Pakuni]

Jameis to face the Packers on Sunday.

[Hards Alumni]

Sounds like all the Packers have to do is bring back Rodgers.

2019 Rodgers, sure, ya got any more of those?

[JWags85]

You're just being a contrarian here.  He's regressed every year he hasn't had Rodgers covering for him.  He says the same thing after every loss, but nothing changes.  I'm a literal football novice, but I can tell what play is coming next just by checking down and distance and his tendencies.  He's a control freak who won't let the guys play.  Every audible Love checks down to is a run for Jacobs between the tackles.  It has become so bad that the other team knows his 4th and 1 play that HAS to have a yard before the ball is snapped.

You can't defend that.  The buck has to stop with him.  Can him, give Halfley the job, and bring on some new blood.  MLF's friends (outside of Halfley) are not good coaches.

I'm not being contrarian.  Never in any of the posts on made on him have I defended his coaching this year nor have I acted like the Packers would be crazy or rash to fire him.  I just pushed back against the idea that the Packers have held onto a "failure" far too long and that he's not done anything to earn him leash the last few years or he's been some glaring red flag for a long time.  Imperfect and the team performance than his first 2-3 years?  Absolutely, but no need to go beyond.

No he's not been as he was with Rodgers, but he went 20-14 and made the playoffs twice after losing Rodgers and without the 2 top WRs on the team the previous years and got enough out of a 25 year old QB with 80 career PAs to get him a big extension.  You can scoff at that cause he didn't win 13 games but you saw the stat on how many current coaches have made 2 playoff appearances with their team.  People were posting the "How can he keep getting away with this" meme about Love being the next great thing last year.

Your post about the league figuring him out before he realizes it is spot on.  And hence why I said it makes sense to move on, cause the organization needs a change and if he's still an above average coach (regardless of HOF QB) which I think he is, he'll have the reset that comes with being fired to re-evaluate things.  He would be far from the first coach that it happened to that ended up having future success in a different role.  Look at Bowles, look at Dan Quinn (if indeed is just an aberration with injuries this year).

[Shaka Shart]

You have to at least give thought to promoting Nathanial Hackett. A QB guru to get Jordan out of his funk

[Shaka Shart]

Matt Patricia has done tremendous things for the Buckeyes defense, you have to at least make him say no

[Shaka Shart]

You could do worse than joe judge, special teams guru for the Pats dynasty and the Packer's historical greatest need.

You have to at least get him to listen to your offer.

[JWags85]

You could do worse than joe judge, special teams guru for the Pats dynasty and the Packer's historical greatest need.

You have to at least get him to listen to your offer.

Jokes aside, it will be interesting to see the Joe Judge career progression from here.  Almost as absurd as him getting the Giants job at that stage was him immediately going back to NE as a QB coach...after an entire 15 year career as a ST coordinator. 

That being said, he's currently the QB coach at Ole Miss where he's presumably had a big hand in turning a D2 transfer from a backup to a top 7ish QB in the country along with Kiffin and Little Weis.  He's not gonna get promoted at Ole Miss nor would he get a promotion if he went with Kiffin to LSU or Florida, but he's only 43 and has been of 2 national titles at Bama, 3 SBs in NE, and now a presumable playoff appearance with Ole Miss.

[Shaka Shart]

Jokes aside, it will be interesting to see the Joe Judge career progression from here.  Almost as absurd as him getting the Giants job at that stage was him immediately going back to NE as a QB coach...after an entire 15 year career as a ST coordinator. 

That being said, he's currently the QB coach at Ole Miss where he's presumably had a big hand in turning a D2 transfer from a backup to a top 7ish QB in the country along with Kiffin and Little Weis.  He's not gonna get promoted at Ole Miss nor would he get a promotion if he went with Kiffin to LSU or Florida, but he's only 43 and has been of 2 national titles at Bama, 3 SBs in NE, and now a presumable playoff appearance with Ole Miss.

Jokes?

[tower912]

Jokes aside, it will be interesting to see the Joe Judge career progression from here.  Almost as absurd as him getting the Giants job at that stage was him immediately going back to NE as a QB coach...after an entire 15 year career as a ST coordinator. 

That being said, he's currently the QB coach at Ole Miss where he's presumably had a big hand in turning a D2 transfer from a backup to a top 7ish QB in the country along with Kiffin and Little Weis.  He's not gonna get promoted at Ole Miss nor would he get a promotion if he went with Kiffin to LSU or Florida, but he's only 43 and has been of 2 national titles at Bama, 3 SBs in NE, and now a presumable playoff appearance with Ole Miss.

5 years to Judge?

[Hards Alumni]

I'm not being contrarian.  Never in any of the posts on made on him have I defended his coaching this year nor have I acted like the Packers would be crazy or rash to fire him.  I just pushed back against the idea that the Packers have held onto a "failure" far too long and that he's not done anything to earn him leash the last few years or he's been some glaring red flag for a long time.  Imperfect and the team performance than his first 2-3 years?  Absolutely, but no need to go beyond.

No he's not been as he was with Rodgers, but he went 20-14 and made the playoffs twice after losing Rodgers and without the 2 top WRs on the team the previous years and got enough out of a 25 year old QB with 80 career PAs to get him a big extension.  You can scoff at that cause he didn't win 13 games but you saw the stat on how many current coaches have made 2 playoff appearances with their team.  People were posting the "How can he keep getting away with this" meme about Love being the next great thing last year.

Your post about the league figuring him out before he realizes it is spot on.  And hence why I said it makes sense to move on, cause the organization needs a change and if he's still an above average coach (regardless of HOF QB) which I think he is, he'll have the reset that comes with being fired to re-evaluate things.  He would be far from the first coach that it happened to that ended up having future success in a different role.  Look at Bowles, look at Dan Quinn (if indeed is just an aberration with injuries this year).

The "who else are you going to get"? line is something I read often.  Eventually, the fear of the unknown becomes less than the fear of the known.  MLF hasn't shown me that he is flexible or introspective enough. 

Gutey needs to also find SOMEONE to play on the line who wasn't a below average FA that he overpaid... and his draft choices on the line... the less said about them the better.  And now his best one, who was playing out of position, is injured and likely done for the year... and his contract is up.  I don't have access to PFF grades, but I'd lay money every single guy on that line is in the bottom third or worse on that line.

[JWags85]

The "who else are you going to get"? line is something I read often.  Eventually, the fear of the unknown becomes less than the fear of the known.  MLF hasn't shown me that he is flexible or introspective enough. 

Yea, I don't think you and I are actually in disagreement about MLF in general as it pertains to this season/his job security, again my whole argument is the revisionist history on him looking backwards.  They probably finish 9-7-1, might squeak into the playoffs somehow, but they won't win a game and then they should probably make a change. 

I think the autopsy on MLF's tenure could then be looked at as disappointing or underwhelming based on initially set expectations, but thinking its a failure or some notable crashing and burning to end his time in GB is Packers fans living a pretty blessed NFL fan existence

[Hards Alumni]

Yea, I don't think you and I are actually in disagreement about MLF in general as it pertains to this season/his job security, again my whole argument is the revisionist history on him looking backwards.  They probably finish 9-7-1, might squeak into the playoffs somehow, but they won't win a game and then they should probably make a change. 

I think the autopsy on MLF's tenure could then be looked at as disappointing or underwhelming based on initially set expectations, but thinking its a failure or some notable crashing and burning to end his time in GB is Packers fans living a pretty blessed NFL fan existence

People say that we've been blessed, and it is true to some degree.  HOF QBs, but our coaching has been outright average since Holmgren was run off.  Don't get me wrong, it's great to win a Super Bowl, but the franchise routinely comes up short of expectations.  I understand that a lot of fan bases would trade positions with the Packers, but a lot was left on the table.

If MLF goes 9-7-1 and makes the playoffs he will absolutely still get another year.  The fans will howl, and rightfully so.

[Uncle Rico]

People say that we've been blessed, and it is true to some degree.  HOF QBs, but our coaching has been outright average since Holmgren was run off.  Don't get me wrong, it's great to win a Super Bowl, but the franchise routinely comes up short of expectations.  I understand that a lot of fan bases would trade positions with the Packers, but a lot was left on the table.

If MLF goes 9-7-1 and makes the playoffs he will absolutely still get another year.  The fans will howl, and rightfully so.

I said this earlier in the season, he has to prove it to get another season and he's failing to prove it.

There is still half a season left for them to right the ship but with all the injuries to the offense and how putrid his scheme has looked, it seems like wishful thinking.

He's not the only one that should be on the hot seat.  The GM should be, too.  They have deficiencies on the line because his higher draft picks have not developed and his off-season FA pickups have been bad.  Extending McManus was dumb, too.

8 weeks to change the narrative.  I have strong doubts

[MU82]

This isn't college football, in which a school must constantly extend the contract of a coach it likes in order to send a message to recruits.

LaFleur still has another year on his contract after this one. There is absolutely no need to extend him. If for some reason Packers brass thinks it'd premature to dump him after this season, they can just see how next year goes.

If next year goes spectacularly well and some other team swoops in and steals him ... oh well. The odds of that happening seem pretty low.

After Dick Jauron's Bears had their miraculous "smoke & mirrors" season in 2001, the organization was browbeaten into extending his contract, even though he had another year to go. Two sh!tty seasons later - after the first year of the extension - they had to fire him and pay him. It was incredibly stoopid.

[Hards Alumni]

I said this earlier in the season, he has to prove it to get another season and he's failing to prove it.

There is still half a season left for them to right the ship but with all the injuries to the offense and how putrid his scheme has looked, it seems like wishful thinking.

He's not the only one that should be on the hot seat.  The GM should be, too.  They have deficiencies on the line because his higher draft picks have not developed and his off-season FA pickups have been bad.  Extending McManus was dumb, too.

8 weeks to change the narrative.  I have strong doubts

2025
Nate Hobbs - miss
Mecole Hardman - miss
Aaron Banks - big miss

2024 was much better with McKinney and Jacobs.

[The Sultan]

This isn't college football, in which a school must constantly extend the contract of a coach it likes in order to send a message to recruits.

LaFleur still has another year on his contract after this one. There is absolutely no need to extend him. If for some reason Packers brass thinks it'd premature to dump him after this season, they can just see how next year goes.

Ed Policy has already said that he doesn't believe in lame duck years. Gutey and LaFluer will either be extended this off season, or they will be fired.

[Jockey]

2025
Nate Hobbs - miss
Mecole Hardman - miss
Aaron Banks - big miss

2024 was much better with McKinney and Jacobs.

Add this years draft and your list would look a lot worse. Almost no contributions.

[Uncle Rico]

Noted humanitarian, Bert Farve doesn't like the choice of Bad Bunny to perform at halftime of the Super Bowl

[The Sultan]

Noted humanitarian, Bert Farve doesn't like the choice of Bad Bunny to perform at halftime of the Super Bowl

Dude has really gotten slow. That was LAST month's outrage. We've all moved on to ignorning that whole "Jeffrey Epstein" thing.

[Uncle Rico]

Dude has really gotten slow. That was LAST month's outrage. We've all moved on to ignorning that whole "Jeffrey Epstein" thing.

Bert strikes me as a dude ok with guys banging 14 and 15 year-olds that were part of a sex trafficking ring.  The woke mob ruins everything

[Shaka Shart]

Noted humanitarian, Bert Farve doesn't like the choice of Bad Bunny to perform at halftime of the Super Bowl

Didn't the packers just have him back on the sideline

[Uncle Rico]

Didn't the packers just have him back on the sideline

Probably.  They'll have a welfare cheat on the sideline but not Anders

[cheebs09]

Didn't the packers just have him back on the sideline

I thought he was at the game in Dallas. Not sure if he was at Lambeau for the Sterling Sharpe game too.

[MU82]

Ed Policy has already said that he doesn't believe in lame duck years. Gutey and LaFluer will either be extended this off season, or they will be fired.

Thanks for the info. There really shouldn't be anything wrong with a lane-duck year, but if that's how they feel I guess it will be good for Packers fans to know what's what sooner than later.