2025-26 NFL Thread

[Mutaman]

This is where I get fed up as a Packers fan. They routinely stick with failed coaches way too long.  Capers, Barry, several special teams coaches, now LaFleur. I'm probably forgetting others. They fart around when it's painfully clear it's time to move on.

Mike McCarthy says hold my beer.

[HutchwasClutch]

Mike McCarthy says hold my beer.

I thought of including him on the list.  An argument could be made for sure.  He at least had earned some benefit of the doubt for being kept around. 

[CreightonWarrior]

So apparently the entire eagles defense knew exactly what the Packers were going to do on the failed 4th & 1 and even shouted it out before the snap and no one bothered to do anything about it.

[HutchwasClutch]

So apparently the entire eagles defense knew exactly what the Packers were going to do on the failed 4th & 1 and even shouted it out before the snap and no one bothered to do anything about it.

Stunning. One of the DT's called out "inside zone running play" And there wasn't an option to audible to another play compounding how bad that was. Love does share responsibility too for not calling timeout. 

[JWags85]

I thought of including him on the list.  An argument could be made for sure.  He at least had earned some benefit of the doubt for being kept around. 

MLF has made the playoffs 5 of 6 years and won 11+ games in 4 of 6 years.  I totally get being fed up with him and his progression has been more or less downward since 2021, but you sound like a spoiled delusional fan to say he's earned no benefit of the doubt.  There are less than 10 NFL coaches who have been to the playoffs multiple times with their current team, if you jack it up to 3 or more times, there are like 5 others than MLF.

Fire him after the year cause of diminishing returns or cause you think you have a SB caliber team and he's no longer capable of winning one, fair, I get it.  But acting like the Packers are cursed with some abject failure of a coach  and it's outrageous malpractice to have not moved on or they should do something mid season is just myopic and detached from reality

[tower912]

Your first place Chicago Bears.

Injuries are taking a toll on the Packers offense.  Hopefully, they can address some of them through the draft.

[HutchwasClutch]

MLF has made the playoffs 5 of 6 years and won 11+ games in 4 of 6 years.  I totally get being fed up with him and his progression has been more or less downward since 2021, but you sound like a spoiled delusional fan to say he's earned no benefit of the doubt.  There are less than 10 NFL coaches who have been to the playoffs multiple times with their current team, if you jack it up to 3 or more times, there are like 5 others than MLF.

Fire him after the year cause of diminishing returns or cause you think you have a SB caliber team and he's no longer capable of winning one, fair, I get it.  But acting like the Packers are cursed with some abject failure of a coach  and it's outrageous malpractice to have not moved on or they should do something mid season is just myopic and detached from reality

Thanks, I'll definitely try to do better. 

[CreightonWarrior]

He'd also probably be no different than a lot of flame out coaches if he wasn't gifted generational QBs from day one.

[HutchwasClutch]

He'd also probably be no different than a lot of flame out coaches if he wasn't gifted generational QBs from day one.

You mean like having a first ballot HOF qb win two MVP's his first three years as head coach? 

[JWags85]

He'd also probably be no different than a lot of flame out coaches if he wasn't gifted generational QBs from day one.

He still made the playoffs twice post-Rodgers, post-Davante, and with no other elite offensive players (I guess depends on your opinion of Josh Jacobs, who I'd call very good at this point, not elite).

I'm not some MLF fanboy and as a Bears fan, I have no issue seeing him flounder.  But I've also experienced a decade of truly bad coaches, so I can tell the difference.  MLF is an above average coach who has lost the plot in GB and its probably best for both to move on.  Its happening to a couple of guys hired in that 1-2 year window in 2019-2020.  Zac Taylor, Stefanski, all looked good for awhile and now are falling apart.

[wadesworld]

So apparently the entire eagles defense knew exactly what the Packers were going to do on the failed 4th & 1 and even shouted it out before the snap and no one bothered to do anything about it.

Love heard it and "still thought they had a light box" 

[wadesworld]

He still made the playoffs twice post-Rodgers, post-Davante, and with no other elite offensive players (I guess depends on your opinion of Josh Jacobs, who I'd call very good at this point, not elite).

I'm not some MLF fanboy and as a Bears fan, I have no issue seeing him flounder.  But I've also experienced a decade of truly bad coaches, so I can tell the difference.  MLF is an above average coach who has lost the plot in GB and its probably best for both to move on.  Its happening to a couple of guys hired in that 1-2 year window in 2019-2020.  Zac Taylor, Stefanski, all looked good for awhile and now are falling apart.

This is spot on.  MLF reminds me of the NFL version of Mike Budenholzer, he just doesn't have Giannis (anymore...and the Packers were very real SB contenders when he did in Rodgers).  He came in and the offense immediately looked much better and more modern.  But he has a ceiling and we're seeing it.  With an elite QB he'd be good enough to win a SB.  With a decent to good QB but not elite one, things are getting stale.

[The Sultan]

This is spot on.  MLF reminds me of the NFL version of Mike Budenholzer, he just doesn't have Giannis (anymore...and the Packers were very real SB contenders when he did in Rodgers).  He came in and the offense immediately looked much better and more modern.  But he has a ceiling and we're seeing it.  With an elite QB he'd be good enough to win a SB.  With a decent to good QB but not elite one, things are getting stale.

Yep, this is where I am as well.

[Jockey]

So apparently the entire eagles defense knew exactly what the Packers were going to do on the failed 4th & 1 and even shouted it out before the snap and no one bothered to do anything about it.

Yes.

Bad call and then bad decision by Love to run the play when defense called it out.

That play specifically is the reason you use time outs.

[MU82]

So apparently the entire eagles defense knew exactly what the Packers were going to do on the failed 4th & 1 and even shouted it out before the snap and no one bothered to do anything about it.

The Packers looked clueless and frenzied as they lined up. They needed to take a time out. They had two left and plenty of time to still get the field goal.

But again, nothing LaFleur did was as dopey as that pass Sirianni had Hurts throw on fourth down. The only thing more stoopider than the call was Sirianni's explanation afterward. He seemed to think that the only options were a long field goal or going for it. I know nobody likes to punt ... but you gotta punt there.

[WhiteTrash]

But again, nothing LaFleur did was as dopey as that pass Sirianni had Hurts throw on fourth down. The only thing more stoopider than the call was Sirianni's explanation afterward. He seemed to think that the only options were a long field goal or going for it. I know nobody likes to punt ... but you gotta punt there.

Agree 100% Not even having a punt as an option is very odd and "stoopid".

[JWags85]

The Packers looked clueless and frenzied as they lined up. They needed to take a time out. They had two left and plenty of time to still get the field goal.

When I saw the flag after the chaos of the play, I figured surely there had been a TO called, or at least someone jumped offsides.  It was that haphazard

[GB Warrior]

He still made the playoffs twice post-Rodgers, post-Davante, and with no other elite offensive players (I guess depends on your opinion of Josh Jacobs, who I'd call very good at this point, not elite).

I'm not some MLF fanboy and as a Bears fan, I have no issue seeing him flounder.  But I've also experienced a decade of truly bad coaches, so I can tell the difference.  MLF is an above average coach who has lost the plot in GB and its probably best for both to move on.  Its happening to a couple of guys hired in that 1-2 year window in 2019-2020.  Zac Taylor, Stefanski, all looked good for awhile and now are falling apart.

I'd take stefanski in a heartbeat

[MU82]

Sean McDermott has given Joe Brady the dreaded vote of confidence.

[Pakuni]

Sean McDermott has given Joe Brady the dreaded vote of confidence.

A soft landing in Baton Rouge awaits?

[The Sultan]

A soft landing in Baton Rouge awaits?

Have they officially fired Brian Kelly yet?

[Shaka Shart]

Yes.

Bad call and then bad decision by Love to run the play when defense called it out.

That play specifically is the reason you use time outs.

Don't blame love he's missing his skill players

[tower912]

It is an interesting thought.  How many QB's have been able to win with beat up O-lines, missing skill players, and untimely drops?   Stafford put up big numbers that way, but he didn't win enough games in Detroit that way.

One answer would be to start moving Love around in the pocket, rollout and bootlegs.  Get him in space and let him rip. 

MLF studying his tablet with his back to his defense in the field is a bad look.

Ah, well, plenty of draft capital with which to fix the weak spots going forward.

[Jockey]

Actually, Gutey is as guilty as Poles was for his OL.

Other than Thom, total malpractice.

[JWags85]

I'd take stefanski in a heartbeat

I think Stefanski's future job prospects hinge heavily on how much decision making, especially personnel, was him and how much was taken out of his hands.  Because for a good offensive mind, he's been horrible from who he's brought in has his OCs (Van Pelt and Dorsey were horrible and are no longer OCs, Rees looks to be heading the same way), to his schemes, to his management of the QB position.  I'm not even putting anything Watson related, its beyond that.

You have a guy like Vrabel who was a good coach that got hit with a terrible injury situation then got pushed out during a complete overhaul with a new GM coming in.  But Stefanski has been fairly terrible, with tons of talent, since his first year, save for the Joe Flacco miracle redemption tour in 2023.

Sean McDermott has given Joe Brady the dreaded vote of confidence.

I have no clue why they would even dream of entertaining Daboll, or anyone, over Brady at this point.  Their offensive scheme/gameplan hasn't been their problem, IMO.  They are #2 in total offense, best rushing team in the league (which was the big upgrade with Brady over Daboll, interesting giving his passing offense pedigree), top 5 in scoring. 

Their last 2 losses were terrible turnovers against the Dolphins (and letting De'von Achane turn into Barry Sanders) and Josh Allen almost single-handedly being absolutely atrocious on MNF against the Falcons.  He's actually having a pretty good, very efficient year, but when he's been off, he's been REALLY bad.  Brady has turned James Cook into the best back in the AFC behind JT.

A soft landing in Baton Rouge awaits?

He's probably a year or two away from an NFL HC gig, id be shocked if he was even an LSU finalist.