2025-26 NFL Thread

[tower912]

As you contemplate who you want to be the next coach of the Packers, ponder this.  Mike McCarthy is the current top betting favorite to get the NYG job.

[The Sultan]

As you contemplate who you want to be the next coach of the Packers, ponder this.  Mike McCarthy is the current top betting favorite to get the NYG job.

McCarthy would be a good fit for the Giants. Young quarterback and a team in need of discipline. Like in Dallas, he would be a good enough coach to get them competant. Likely not enough to get them to the promised land unless he has a Ted Thompson type put together a loaded roster for him.

Look, I get what you are talking about, but sometimes coaches and teams just need changes of scenery.

[MU82]

Several Panthers players said the team had a "lackadaisical" approach to Sunday's game because they just assumed they'd beat the horrible Saints.

It is laughable that a mediocre-at-best team - and an objectively horsebleep organization - could go into any game expecting to just steamroll any opponent.

What an indictment of Canales and the players who are supposed to be team leaders.

[Pakuni]

As you contemplate who you want to be the next coach of the Packers, ponder this.  Mike McCarthy is the current top betting favorite to get the NYG job.

I'm sure that would excite no one, but it makes a lot of sense. McCarthy would bring some much-needed professionalism and competence to a franchise that's lacked it since Coughlin left town.
Not sure he gets them close to a title, but if he can coach up Dart and the front office can build upon a solid young core, he could set the table nicely for the next guy.

[JWags85]

McCarthy would be a good fit for the Giants. Young quarterback and a team in need of discipline. Like in Dallas, he would be a good enough coach to get them competant. Likely not enough to get them to the promised land unless he has a Ted Thompson type put together a loaded roster for him.

Look, I get what you are talking about, but sometimes coaches and teams just need changes of scenery.

Absolutely. He's not the coach if you have an elite QB and win-now SB aspiration sort of team.  But he'd be great for Dart and much needed stability from a proven commodity for an organization that has had literally 4 horrific coaches.  Not just bad, but horrific.  Ben McAdoo, Pat Shurmur, Joe Judge, and Daboll in a 10 year period makes McCarthy look like fucking Vince Lombardi.  Not a single one is even a position coach in the NFL, much less a coordinator.

3-4 years of him in NY could get them to respectability if Dart is as good as his early potential shows.

[wadesworld]

McCarthy was in a suite with McIntosh during a Wisconsin volleyball match a couple of weeks ago.  He's obviously going to be Wisconsin's football coach.  Err, in 2 years.

[Uncle Rico]

Anders Carlson makes that FG

[Shaka Shart]

If you're the packers you have to at least make the call. Make Ben Johnson say no.

[Jockey]

Jaire says he's stepping away from the game.

Coulda said it about 4 years earlier.

[JWags85]

If McCarthy ends up with the Giants, he could have one of the most random, none of these are like the other, set of locales he lived and coached in succession over the last 25 years.  NOLA, San Francisco, Green Bay, Dallas, and NYC. 

[GB Warrior]

McCarthy was great for Dallas. Absolutely raised the floor. The ceiling is Jerry Jones.

[GB Warrior]

I think Stefanski's future job prospects hinge heavily on how much decision making, especially personnel, was him and how much was taken out of his hands.  Because for a good offensive mind, he's been horrible from who he's brought in has his OCs (Van Pelt and Dorsey were horrible and are no longer OCs, Rees looks to be heading the same way), to his schemes, to his management of the QB position.  I'm not even putting anything Watson related, its beyond that.

You have a guy like Vrabel who was a good coach that got hit with a terrible injury situation then got pushed out during a complete overhaul with a new GM coming in.  But Stefanski has been fairly terrible, with tons of talent, since his first year, save for the Joe Flacco miracle redemption tour in 2023.

I have no clue why they would even dream of entertaining Daboll, or anyone, over Brady at this point.  Their offensive scheme/gameplan hasn't been their problem, IMO.  They are #2 in total offense, best rushing team in the league (which was the big upgrade with Brady over Daboll, interesting giving his passing offense pedigree), top 5 in scoring. 

Their last 2 losses were terrible turnovers against the Dolphins (and letting De'von Achane turn into Barry Sanders) and Josh Allen almost single-handedly being absolutely atrocious on MNF against the Falcons.  He's actually having a pretty good, very efficient year, but when he's been off, he's been REALLY bad.  Brady has turned James Cook into the best back in the AFC behind JT.

He's probably a year or two away from an NFL HC gig, id be shocked if he was even an LSU finalist.

Here's the thing. The Titans are morons for ever thinking that a change of pace from Vrabel was a good thing. And I said it then that if their rebuild(s) are ever remotely successful they're going to find themselves wanting a guy a lot like Vrabel.

As for Stefanski, like LaFleur, he's struggled to build a staff. Needs help there. However, unlike MLF, he's had to overcome largely unforced adversity (the name's Haslam) and has experienced success in maybe the worst environment in sports that isn't the Pittsburgh Pirates.

[The Sultan]

Here's the thing. The Titans are morons for ever thinking that a change of pace from Vrabel was a good thing. And I said it then that if their rebuild(s) are ever remotely successful they're going to find themselves wanting a guy a lot like Vrabel.

Vrabel holds some of the blame with what went down in Tennessee though. He didn't get along with the GM who was in place when he was hired. They fired that GM to hire Ron Carthon, who Vrabel said wasn't ready for the job. (He has since been fired as well, so Vrabel was likely right here.) Then he had trouble replacing the coordinators who left.

But what it comes down to is that they lost two playoff games at home after winning their division. Then they had two losing seasons in a row. When you fade away like that, and fight with the front office and the owner, this was bound to happen.

This doesn't excuse how dysfunctional the Titans have been however.

[Hards Alumni]

Someone make sense of the Bills for me.

Packers of the AFC.

[Uncle Rico]

Packers of the AFC.

Sean McDermott and Matt LaFleur are interchangeable

[Hards Alumni]

Bad coaches can survive for a while. Cowards can't.

I mentioned yesterday that they were the softest team I can remember - and that is saying a lot with the cincys and Dallas' of the NFL.

Daboll should never be an HC again.

Strange that MLF is still employed then.

[Hards Alumni]

Absolutely speechless. I'd say he has to give up play calling duties but there 0 chance he'll ever do that.

His offense has been figured out, and he doesn't realize it.

Same thing happened to McCarthy and then the Packers kept him around for two more years because they had Rodgers to hide it.

[Hards Alumni]

MLF has made the playoffs 5 of 6 years and won 11+ games in 4 of 6 years.  I totally get being fed up with him and his progression has been more or less downward since 2021, but you sound like a spoiled delusional fan to say he's earned no benefit of the doubt.  There are less than 10 NFL coaches who have been to the playoffs multiple times with their current team, if you jack it up to 3 or more times, there are like 5 others than MLF.

Fire him after the year cause of diminishing returns or cause you think you have a SB caliber team and he's no longer capable of winning one, fair, I get it.  But acting like the Packers are cursed with some abject failure of a coach  and it's outrageous malpractice to have not moved on or they should do something mid season is just myopic and detached from reality

You're just being a contrarian here.  He's regressed every year he hasn't had Rodgers covering for him.  He says the same thing after every loss, but nothing changes.  I'm a literal football novice, but I can tell what play is coming next just by checking down and distance and his tendencies.  He's a control freak who won't let the guys play.  Every audible Love checks down to is a run for Jacobs between the tackles.  It has become so bad that the other team knows his 4th and 1 play that HAS to have a yard before the ball is snapped.

You can't defend that.  The buck has to stop with him.  Can him, give Halfley the job, and bring on some new blood.  MLF's friends (outside of Halfley) are not good coaches.

[BM1090]

You know my one worry about firing MLF was losing Hafley but promoting him
is a great call. Lots of good OCs out there

[Jockey]

Strange that MLF is still employed then.

He shouldn't be.

[Shaka Shart]

Brian Kelly would bring discipline back to the locker room. You have to make the call.

[Uncle Rico]

This is a fun read for Packers fans

https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/green-bay-packers-analysis/74421/the-packers-offensive-line-is-only-going-to-get-worse

[Pakuni]

Brian Kelly would bring discipline back to the locker room. You have to make the call.

Discipline? Here's your guy:

[Uncle Rico]

Discipline? Here's your guy:

At least he'd know how to win in Bears weather

[tower912]

Hologram Vince.