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CreightonWarrior

Fear is a torn ACL for Kraft. This bums me out. Only player I really trusted being consistent enough for Love.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: CreightonWarrior on November 02, 2025, 04:50:38 PMFear is a torn ACL for Kraft. This bums me out. Only player I really trusted being consistent enough for Love.

Going to really need to establish the run
Thus says the Lord of hosts: Render true judgments, show kindness and mercy to one another; do not oppress the widow, the orphan, the alien, or the poor; and do not devise evil in your hearts against one another.

HutchwasClutch

Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 02, 2025, 04:52:55 PMGoing to really need to establish the run
Or maybe they're really f'd now.  He's their best receiver and it's not even close.

I've never felt an ounce of enthusiasm about their chances anyway.  Their coach is a fraud which is why mistake filled upset losses have become common under him. He's a bad coach. 

HutchwasClutch

Quote from: Jockey on November 02, 2025, 03:07:00 PMManhandled on both sides of the ball - at home - against a terrible team.
Not surprising when your coach is a fraud

BM1090

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on November 02, 2025, 04:58:03 PMNot surprising when your coach is a fraud

He's a top half of the NFL coach. Just not good enough and it's time to move on.

MU82

Not sure how the Pack could win, what with the big-money Panthers hoarding all the high-priced pitchers.
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"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

tower912

Quote from: MU82 on November 02, 2025, 05:00:39 PMNot sure how the Pack could win, what with the big-money Panthers hoarding all the high-priced pitchers.
Nice
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

The Sultan

Yeah it's pretty hard to call a guy with his record "bad" and a "fraud." I don't think he does enough to hold a team to a certain standard, which is why they always seem to play down to their opponents. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see them beat the Eagles for instance. His in-game situational calling is also questionable. He's probably best as a OC or HC with a more veteran team.

I do think that if they flame out like last year that he is gone. And maybe Gutey as well. The Micah trade was a "win now" moment, and with a new president in place and no contract extensions given, I think it was a clear indication that improvement is required.
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HutchwasClutch

Quote from: MU82 on November 02, 2025, 04:24:36 PMThis aged well.

It's also why I'm not a betting man.

Well done, Packers!

It's not your fault though. You don't follow the Packers closely enough.  And then people that for some reason get paid for what passes as analysis and knowledge of the league try to fill our heads that LaFleur's a good coach, that he's some offensive guru from the McKay tree. It's lazy and superficial analysis and ignores games like today that continually pop up again.

HutchwasClutch

Quote from: BM1090 on November 02, 2025, 04:58:57 PMHe's a top half of the NFL coach. Just not good enough and it's time to move on.
Not even close

The Sultan

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on November 02, 2025, 05:07:53 PMIt's not your fault though. You don't follow the Packers closely enough.  And then people that for some reason get paid for what passes as analysis and knowledge of the league try to fill our heads that LaFleur's a good coach, that he's some offensive guru from the McKay tree. It's lazy and superficial analysis and ignores games like today that continually pop up again.

McVay

McKay died in 2001.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

JWags85

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on November 02, 2025, 05:07:53 PMIt's not your fault though. You don't follow the Packers closely enough.  And then people that for some reason get paid for what passes as analysis and knowledge of the league try to fill our heads that LaFleur's a good coach, that he's some offensive guru from the McKay tree. It's lazy and superficial analysis and ignores games like today that continually pop up again.


He's from the John McKay tree? I thought he was much younger than that.

tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

BM1090

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on November 02, 2025, 05:09:11 PMNot even close

I think you're underestimating how many bad coaches there are. Coen, Taylor, Daboll, Callahan, Morris, Glenn, Mcdaniel off the top of my head.

MLF is 70-38 and has only one losing season. If he gets fired he'd get hired immediately. His scheme is largely good. His playcalling and clock management are maddening. O line play has generally been really good, but they are way too penalized.
But this year feels like the worst coaching of his career and he is probably the worst coach in the division which is a big problem.

I'm in favor of letting him go. I think they need a new voice. But he has the 7th best winning percentage of all time of coaches with a minimum of 100 games. He's a solid, not great coach.


MU82

"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Jockey

Quote from: JWags85 on November 02, 2025, 05:20:35 PMHe's from the John McKay tree? I thought he was much younger than that.

He was outstanding as the OC on those early TB teams.

CreightonWarrior

Every bills win over the chiefs becomes less impressive when they can't beat them in the playoffs.

forgetful

Quote from: The Sultan on November 02, 2025, 04:09:24 PMIf #2 is correct, then he simply shouldn't be kicking. Stick him on IR or something.

I agree. After him going 2-4 against Pittsburgh and still having issues, I was surprised to see him active today.

Pakuni


wadesworld

Quote from: MU82 on November 02, 2025, 05:00:39 PMNot sure how the Pack could win, what with the big-money Panthers hoarding all the high-priced pitchers.

It's like salary caps and revenue sharing allow everyone a shot at competing!

BM1090

Quote from: forgetful on November 02, 2025, 07:00:29 PMI agree. After him going 2-4 against Pittsburgh and still having issues, I was surprised to see him active today.

One of the misses in Pittsburgh was 57 yards on a terrible field. One miss was blocked. The other three are less explainable, but he's always been a solid to good kicker. I think he'll be fine.

PointWarrior

Wake me up when the Seahawks beat a team with a pulse.


Quote from: MU82 on November 02, 2025, 05:00:39 PMNot sure how the Pack could win, what with the big-money Panthers hoarding all the high-priced pitchers.

Pakuni

Commanders secondary hates covering nearly as much as the Bengals'.

forgetful

Quote from: BM1090 on November 02, 2025, 07:35:49 PMOne of the misses in Pittsburgh was 57 yards on a terrible field. One miss was blocked. The other three are less explainable, but he's always been a solid to good kicker. I think he'll be fine.

I just don't think he's healthy yet. He's a good kicker.

MU82

Quote from: PointWarrior on November 02, 2025, 08:19:17 PMWake me up when the Seahawks beat a team with a pulse.



Well, every opponent can't be Super Bowl contenders like Cleveland and Carolina are.

Also, the Seahawks haven't found a mediocre opponent to tie yet.

Go Packers!
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

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