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Zog from Margo

Quote from: bilsu on February 17, 2025, 09:21:08 AMTre playing significant minutes next year will tell me our incoming freshmen guards are overrated.

Longing for the days of Traci Carter?

Juan Anderson's Mixtape

Quote from: Captain Quette on February 16, 2025, 02:46:54 PMDo you think Tre's ceiling is a Steve Mitchell type career? Which I would be fine with.

Tre is not nearly as good as Stevie was as a sophomore. If Sean was healthy, Tre would probably play about as much as Caedin.

Sometimes coaches just flat out miss on an evaluation.  That's what I think happened here.

The Sultan

Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on February 17, 2025, 11:12:15 AMTre is not nearly as good as Stevie was as a sophomore. If Sean was healthy, Tre would probably play about as much as Caedin.

Sometimes coaches just flat out miss on an evaluation.  That's what I think happened here.

Yet he somehow is the first sub off the bench nearly every game.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Juan Anderson's Mixtape

Quote from: The Sultan on February 17, 2025, 11:15:10 AMYet he somehow is the first sub off the bench nearly every game.

Minutes played is a better indicator than first off the bench.

Here are the total bench minutes from the recent UConn, St. John's, and Creighton stretch:

Parham 67
Lowery 56
Owens 24
Norman 16
Hamilton 9

Those are all NCAA tournament caliber teams.  To me, it's easy to see Shaka going to a 7 man rotation in the tournament. The starters, Parham, and Lowery are it. Spot minutes for Owens, Norman, and Hamilton.

JakeBarnes

Quote from: The Sultan on February 17, 2025, 09:26:52 AMWe do this every year with the freshmen. You'd think we'd learn at some point.

But its not hard to see why a junior, with two years experience under his belt, would be ahead of three freshmen who aren't one and done types. But I guess we had people suggesting *this off-season* that Stevie might lose his starting spot, so I shouldn't be surprised.

Stevie will definitely lose his starting spot next year though.
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.

"We all carry within us our places of exile, our crimes and our ravages. But our task is not to unleash them on the world; it is to fight them in ourselves and in others." -Camus, The Rebel

Newsdreams

Quote from: bilsu on February 17, 2025, 09:21:08 AMTre playing significant minutes next year will tell me our incoming freshmen guards are overrated.
LOL
Goal is National Championship
CBP profile my people who landed here over 100 yrs before Mayflower. Most I've had to deal with are ignorant & low IQ.
Can't believe we're living in the land of F 452/1984/Animal Farm/Brave New World/Handmaid's Tale. When travel to Mars begins, expect Starship Troopers

tower912

Quote from: JakeBarnes on February 17, 2025, 11:57:18 AMStevie will definitely lose his starting spot next year though.
Brilliant.  Absolutely love it.

BCHoopster doesn't see an alpha scorer next season.  I see 4 who potentially can do it.  Ross, Owens, Parham, Gold.
In honor of Pope Leo XIV,
Matthew 25: 31-46

wombataholic

Quote from: tower912 on February 18, 2025, 01:42:44 PMBCHoopster doesn't see an alpha scorer next season.  I see 4 who potentially can do it.  Ross, Owens, Parham, Gold.

I'd guess Parham, followed by some combination of Owens or Lowery.

BCHoopster

Quote from: tower912 on February 18, 2025, 01:42:44 PMBrilliant.  Absolutely love it.

BCHoopster doesn't see an alpha scorer next season.  I see 4 who potentially can do it.  Ross, Owens, Parham, Gold.

Gold, dreaming, Owens has a hard time creating his own shot, agree Ross might score around 18 next year, Parham maybe 12-14.  Talking about Owens, is Shaka hurting him or helping him.  Looked very impressive in the scrimmage, since then not much

MUfan12

Quote from: BCHoopster on February 18, 2025, 01:57:58 PMGold, dreaming, Owens has a hard time creating his own shot, agree Ross might score around 18 next year, Parham maybe 12-14.  Talking about Owens, is Shaka hurting him or helping him.  Looked very impressive in the scrimmage, since then not much

That toe injury really set Owens back, unfortunately.

Chase seems the most obvious pick, but he'll need to stop picking up dumb fouls and finish more consistently at the rim.

GoldenEagles03

Quote from: wombataholic on February 18, 2025, 01:56:47 PMI'd guess Parham, followed by some combination of Owens or Lowery.

Chase?
VIOLENCE!

tower912

Quote from: MUfan12 on February 18, 2025, 02:00:22 PMThat toe injury really set Owens back, unfortunately.

Chase seems the most obvious pick, but he'll need to stop picking up dumb fouls and finish more consistently at the rim.
So did missing a month with the groin.
In honor of Pope Leo XIV,
Matthew 25: 31-46

Vander Blue Man Group

If the game slows down a bit more for Owens, and it should, he's going to be a beast. 

BM1090

#238
Quote from: tower912 on February 18, 2025, 01:42:44 PMBrilliant.  Absolutely love it.

BCHoopster doesn't see an alpha scorer next season.  I see 4 who potentially can do it.  Ross, Owens, Parham, Gold.

Ben has the skill. I'm starting to think he may never get his confidence right while he's at MU though. Seeing improvements but he needs to take a big step next year in that regard. If he does, he's going to be really fun to watch.

tower912

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on February 18, 2025, 02:14:22 PMIf the game slows down a bit more for Owens, and it should, he's going to be a beast. 
There have been enough glimpses to show that an offseason of growth and a few more pounds of muscle will lead to him being a problem for other teams. 
I thought he would be 6th man, Swiss army knife, by the end of the season.  Preseason injuries derailed that.  Alas.
In honor of Pope Leo XIV,
Matthew 25: 31-46

JakeBarnes

Quote from: tower912 on February 18, 2025, 01:42:44 PMBrilliant.  Absolutely love it.

BCHoopster doesn't see an alpha scorer next season.  I see 4 who potentially can do it.  Ross, Owens, Parham, Gold.

I am bullish on Lowery for a strong scoring role too. Maybe not alpha--still think that Chase is that. The teams aren't really built for that anyways--going to be a lot more balanced scoring going forward.
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.

"We all carry within us our places of exile, our crimes and our ravages. But our task is not to unleash them on the world; it is to fight them in ourselves and in others." -Camus, The Rebel

tower912

I see Lowery in a 3 and D role as a junior, similar to Chase as a sophomore.
In honor of Pope Leo XIV,
Matthew 25: 31-46

willie warrior

Quote from: tower912 on February 18, 2025, 01:42:44 PMBrilliant.  Absolutely love it.

BCHoopster doesn't see an alpha scorer next season.  I see 4 who potentially can do it.  Ross, Owens, Parham, Gold.
Well Tower, you just went off the rails with the prediction of Gold potentially being an alpha scorer.
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

tower912

In honor of Pope Leo XIV,
Matthew 25: 31-46

The Sultan

"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

The Sultan

Quote from: BCHoopster on February 18, 2025, 01:57:58 PMGold, dreaming, Owens has a hard time creating his own shot, agree Ross might score around 18 next year, Parham maybe 12-14.  Talking about Owens, is Shaka hurting him or helping him.  Looked very impressive in the scrimmage, since then not much


"...is Shaka hurting him..." Cmon...what are we doing here.

He's been injured. And scrimmages aren't games.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

tower912

Quote from: The Sultan on February 18, 2025, 02:58:59 PMYou did that on purpose.
Sometimes, I just do stuff to make myself laugh.
In honor of Pope Leo XIV,
Matthew 25: 31-46

Juan Anderson's Mixtape

Without an alpha scorer, next year's team will struggle to score 50.

tower912

Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on February 18, 2025, 03:16:44 PMWithout an alpha scorer, next year's team will struggle to score 50.
Nice throwback.
In honor of Pope Leo XIV,
Matthew 25: 31-46

MU82

Quote from: BCHoopster on February 18, 2025, 01:57:58 PMTalking about Owens, is Shaka hurting him or helping him.  Looked very impressive in the scrimmage, since then not much

Please share with us what I'm sure were totally accurate (and optimistic) predictions of the players Kolek and Oso would become after one year in Shaka's program. Thanks!

I mean, if Shaka and his assistants have proven one thing over and over, it's that players never, ever improve under their watch. Kolek, Oso, Kam, Stevie, Ross, Joplin, OMax, Lowery - not a single one of them got better after Year 1.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

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