Next years Center

[tower912]

I'd PEG this as a fairly good prossibility — that Tre starts.

JB, state your case.  I agree, but I want to see your work.

[BCHoopster]

I hope Tre starts which means he can make an outside shot, 20 percent from three and 35 percent from the free throw line will not cut it moving forward

[PJDunn]

IMO, if Tre gets significant and consistent time next year, both metrics will improve dramatically. I also think that year 2 of "Rolls Royce" will be fun to watch. Now back to the upcoming battle with the dreaded Hall...

[MU82]

Shaka has never really had a PG competition at Marquette. It was gonna be Kolek the second TK agreed to transfer from George Mason, and then it was obviously gonna be Kam this season.

So what happens at PG next season should be real interesting to watch.

Sean vs Tre seems too obvious, especially given the question marks and limitations each carries. Shaka has let Owens play point in limited stretches this season. And despite my tendency to dismiss the notion of a freshman getting significant minutes, I do wonder if James just might be that rare frosh who forces Shaka to play him.

[Shooter McGavin]

IMO, if Tre gets significant and consistent time next year, both metrics will improve dramatically. I also think that year 2 of "Rolls Royce" will be fun to watch. Now back to the upcoming battle with the dreaded Hall...

Hoping Parnham takes a Justin Lewis like jump.

[GoldenEagles03]

Hoping Parnham takes a Justin Lewis like jump.

That would be awesome. I kinda like them as a comparison too. Not totally alike, but some very interesting similarities.

[Uncle Rico]

That would be awesome. I kinda like them as a comparison too. Not totally alike, but some very interesting similarities.

I hope whoever Parnham is, he has the grades to get in

[barfolomew]

Hoping Parnham takes a Justin Lewis like jump.

Or a Brendan Bailey-like jump, because it's fun to compare Parnham and Bailey.

[Zog from Margo]

Speaking of next year's center, it's interesting that Gold arguably has been a better player than Jonas Aidoo. MU fans were pretty excited when he committed and he was highly rated by the recruiting services. They were bummed when he went elsewhere. In the grand scheme, the worry seems to have been misplaced.

[Elonsmusk]

I hope Tre starts which means he can make an outside shot, 20 percent from three and 35 percent from the free throw line will not cut it moving forward

Alarming fact:  Tre has already made more 3 point shots in his career than Derrick Wilson made in 4 years.  And Derrick played 80% of minutes his junior and senior years. What were Buzz and Wojo thinking? 

That aside Tre is a bully ball kind of 2 guard.  I expect he will take a step forward next year and will finish pretty well in the paint.  His 3 ball will be suspect if he's not able to re-work it this summer.  Whoever helped Kolek re-work his shot needs to work with Tre all summer.  Tre is well liked by Shaka and his teammates and has a winning pedigree.  I'm hopeful, despite the early returns harkening back to the Derrick Wilson days.

[Newsdreams]

Alarming fact:  Tre has already made more 3 point shots in his career than Derrick Wilson made in 4 years.  And Derrick played 80% of minutes his junior and senior years. What were Buzz and Wojo thinking? 

That aside Tre is a bully ball kind of 2 guard.  I expect he will take a step forward next year and will finish pretty well in the paint.  His 3 ball will be suspect if he's not able to re-work it this summer.  Whoever helped Kolek re-work his shot needs to work with Tre all summer.  Tre is well liked by Shaka and his teammates and has a winning pedigree.  I'm hopeful, despite the early returns harkening back to the Derrick Wilson days.

Pathetic

[Shooter McGavin]

Alarming fact:  Tre has already made more 3 point shots in his career than Derrick Wilson made in 4 years.  And Derrick played 80% of minutes his junior and senior years. What were Buzz and Wojo thinking? 

That aside Tre is a bully ball kind of 2 guard.  I expect he will take a step forward next year and will finish pretty well in the paint.  His 3 ball will be suspect if he's not able to re-work it this summer.  Whoever helped Kolek re-work his shot needs to work with Tre all summer.  Tre is well liked by Shaka and his teammates and has a winning pedigree.  I'm hopeful, despite the early returns harkening back to the Derrick Wilson days.

Interesting comparison between Derrick and Tre.  A similar discussion was had recently by several MU alums that I know who follow MU basketball closely. They all stated unequivocally that Derrick was the better player at this stage in their careers.

[BM1090]

Interesting comparison between Derrick and Tre.  A similar discussion was had recently by several MU alums that I know who follow MU basketball closely. They all stated unequivocally that Derrick was the better player at this stage in their careers.

I'd agree with that, but Tre has a far higher ceiling.

[rgoode57]

I have trouble understanding how anyone sees Chase Ross as a pg. Granted, he makes a good pass every now and then, but he does not have the handle to be a pg. But, I do wonder if Shaka is looking at Owens as a possibility.

[tower912]

A season ago, did you think Kam could handle the point?  Growth.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Interesting comparison between Derrick and Tre.  A similar discussion was had recently by several MU alums that I know who follow MU basketball closely. They all stated unequivocally that Derrick was the better player at this stage in their careers.

I concur. I don't think Ners comparison is off-base. Derrick played better defense, Tre already finishes surprisingly well at the rim.

Derrick somehow became a decent to good 3-point shooter post-Marquette, but Tre really, really needs to rework his form in a way Derrick never had to.

[BCHoopster]

I concur. I don't think Ners comparison is off-base. Derrick played better defense, Tre already finishes surprisingly well at the rim.

Derrick somehow became a decent to good 3-point shooter post-Marquette, but Tre really, really needs to rework his form in a way Derrick never had to.
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Your discussing 2 of the worse shooters in MU history, I saw better 6 grade shooters yesterday that were better then those 2 kids.  I wonder what Shaka saw knowing his style of play when recruiting Tre in high school? And the suppose guru of Shooting, Nevada Smith, what's he up to work with him, his form is way off!

[Captain Quette]

I don't really view Tre as giving us significant minutes next year. I am not seeing anything that he does well enough to indicate he is a BE guard. Shooting, ball handling, athleticism, are just OK. If he is getting a lot of playing time next year, think we are in trouble. With Zaide, he is a good athlete and has a nice shot. I see the upside. Am I missing something or are we just hoping Tre makes the jump w another year.

[Uncle Rico]

I don't really view Tre as giving us significant minutes next year. I am not seeing anything that he does well enough to indicate he is a BE guard. Shooting, ball handling, athleticism, are just OK. If he is getting a lot of playing time next year, think we are in trouble. With Zaide, he is a good athlete and has a nice shot. I see the upside. Am I missing something or are we just hoping Tre makes the jump w another year.

Historically, players under Shaka don't get better

[The Sultan]

I don't really view Tre as giving us significant minutes next year. I am not seeing anything that he does well enough to indicate he is a BE guard. Shooting, ball handling, athleticism, are just OK. If he is getting a lot of playing time next year, think we are in trouble. With Zaide, he is a good athlete and has a nice shot. I see the upside. Am I missing something or are we just hoping Tre makes the jump w another year.

He likely will be our best perimeter defender next season.

[GoldenEagles03]

He likely will be our best perimeter defender next season.

Tre over Chase, Zaide, and Sean? Eeeeehhhhh

[The Sultan]

Tre over Chase, Zaide, and Sean? Eeeeehhhhh

Zaide for sure. Sean's an unknown. Good point on Chase.

Regardless he plays very well on the defensive side of the floor.

[GoldenEagles03]

Zaide for sure. Sean's an unknown. Good point on Chase.

Regardless he plays very well on the defensive side of the floor.

I agree. He is a bully out there, and really looks like he belongs when he plays that way on the offensive end too. Idk if I can get there on him being better than Zaide on defense, but I'd love to see them both continue to get even better. Zaide is damn near elite defensively with his quickness, length, versatility and vertical ability.

[Shooter McGavin]

Historically, players under Shaka don't get better

Lots of grey area here.  I'm confident Shaka is a coach that will get every ounce of potential out of all his players.  Some players just have more talent to extract than others.

[Uncle Rico]

Lots of grey area here.  I'm confident Shaka is a coach that will get every ounce of potential out of all his players.  Some players just have more talent to extract than others.

More than anything, I hope Tre has a healthy off-season and no physical setbacks