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Captain Quette

Do you think Tre's ceiling is a Steve Mitchell type career? Which I would be fine with.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Captain Quette on February 16, 2025, 02:46:54 PMDo you think Tre's ceiling is a Steve Mitchell type career? Which I would be fine with.

Stevie showed more offensively by this point.  Stevie did shoot about 26 or 27% from 3 last year and is 35% this year.  Tre would have to take a giant leap to match that.

I don't think we know his ceiling because of him being injured in camp.  He needs to show a lot more, everyone agrees on that but I wouldn't give up on him
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Shooter McGavin

Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 16, 2025, 02:44:26 PMMore than anything, I hope Tre has a healthy off-season and no physical setbacks

Agreed. 

The Sultan

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 16, 2025, 02:37:45 PMI agree. He is a bully out there, and really looks like he belongs when he plays that way on the offensive end too. Idk if I can get there on him being better than Zaide on defense, but I'd love to see them both continue to get even better. Zaide is damn near elite defensively with his quickness, length, versatility and vertical ability.

You focus too much on on-ball and not enough off. That's why he gets playing time now.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

GoldenEagles03

Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 16, 2025, 02:51:20 PMStevie showed more offensively by this point.  Stevie did shoot about 26 or 27% from 3 last year and is 35% this year.  Tre would have to take a giant leap to match that.

I don't think we know his ceiling because of him being injured in camp.  He needs to show a lot more, everyone agrees on that but I wouldn't give up on him

Stevie also started and got the minutes to help settle in. I think we really probably won't know about Tre until we see him next year.

I know we like to joke about the midrange, but his game in HS was very much attack the basket and mid-range centric.
VIOLENCE!

GoldenEagles03

Quote from: The Sultan on February 16, 2025, 02:52:14 PMYou focus too much on on-ball and not enough off. That's why he gets playing time now.

Idk. When I watch Zaide I see a great defender in all aspects. On ball, off ball, you name it. He guards the opponents best on the perimeter, he even blocked Kalkbrenner at the rim twice last year just minutes apart from one another, he gets steals. He seems to be a 5 tool defender.
VIOLENCE!

BCHoopster

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 16, 2025, 02:57:59 PMIdk. When I watch Zaide I see a great defender in all aspects. On ball, off ball, you name it. He guards the opponents best on the perimeter, he even blocked Kalkbrenner at the rim twice last year just minutes apart from one another, he gets steals. He seems to be a 5 tool defender.

The biggest issue with Tre next year is that on the offensive end looks weak right now.  So can you have a weak shooter playing a lot when the other 4 have there own weaknesses?

MUfan12

I'm not a shot doctor but I did stay at a Holiday Inn...

Tre has too much motion in his mechanics. If he'd lower the release point a few inches, the shot would be a lot more compact and clean. Raising it as high as he does just introduces too many variables into the release. It's also easier to put a little more arc under it with a slightly lower release.

GoldenEagles03

Quote from: BCHoopster on February 16, 2025, 03:03:10 PMThe biggest issue with Tre next year is that on the offensive end looks weak right now.  So can you have a weak shooter playing a lot when the other 4 have there own weaknesses?

I don't think he's necessarily been horrible on offense. He's just been a horrible shooter from distance. I would think he has nowhere but up to go from outside, but it is a fair question.

It'll be interesting to see for sure. They are bringing in some guys that profile as elite shooters in Militec and Phillips, but every conversation we have seems to think the Freshman will be at the bottom of the depth chart like many of our Freshman have.
VIOLENCE!

GoldenEagles03

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 16, 2025, 02:57:59 PMIdk. When I watch Zaide I see a great defender in all aspects. On ball, off ball, you name it. He guards the opponents best on the perimeter, he even blocked Kalkbrenner at the rim twice last year just minutes apart from one another, he gets steals. He seems to be a 5 tool defender.

Here is the sequence I was talking about. Probably my favorite of his career so far. Out on the perimeter on Ashworth, switch dribble handoffs, blocking Kalkbrenner weak side, blocking Kalkbrenner off a switch, drilling a catch and shoot 3.

Beautiful stuff.

https://x.com/BenSteeleMJS/status/1852770756960141607?t=N4nnz7h1rZfGMcYuxoVSxQ&s=19
VIOLENCE!

Johnny B

Quote from: Captain Quette on February 16, 2025, 02:14:32 PMI don't really view Tre as giving us significant minutes next year. I am not seeing anything that he does well enough to indicate he is a BE guard. Shooting, ball handling, athleticism, are just OK. If he is getting a lot of playing time next year, think we are in trouble. With Zaide, he is a good athlete and has a nice shot. I see the upside. Am I missing something or are we just hoping Tre makes the jump w another year.
What is this disgusting comment? oso did nothing his first year and then became a star. That means tre will be 100 percent a super star next season and  this eeyore comment is ridiculous. you haven't seen enough in him yet? What a joke. You clearly hate him and the program. How dare you even hint at the idea he isn't a sure fire super star next season. How dare you offer honest harmless thoughts. tre is the goat

The Sultan

Quote from: Johnny B on February 16, 2025, 03:55:09 PMWhat is this disgusting comment? oso did nothing his first year and then became a star. That means tre will be 100 percent a super star next season and  this eeyore comment is ridiculous. you haven't seen enough in him yet? What a joke. You clearly hate him and the program. How dare you even hint at the idea he isn't a sure fire super star next season. How dare you offer honest harmless thoughts. tre is the goat


???  There's a reason he's the first sub off the bench now. I don't know what he means by "significant minutes," but he's definitely in the rotation.
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Newsdreams

Quote from: The Sultan on February 16, 2025, 02:21:11 PMHe likely will be our best perimeter defender next season.
Those tend to be dung.
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Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: Johnny B on February 16, 2025, 03:55:09 PMWhat is this disgusting comment? oso did nothing his first year and then became a star. That means tre will be 100 percent a super star next season and  this eeyore comment is ridiculous. you haven't seen enough in him yet? What a joke. You clearly hate him and the program. How dare you even hint at the idea he isn't a sure fire super star next season. How dare you offer honest harmless thoughts. tre is the goat

If someone actually responded like that to his post this would come off as much less stupid. However, no one did so here we are.

MU82

Quote from: Johnny B on February 16, 2025, 03:55:09 PMWhat is this disgusting comment? oso did nothing his first year and then became a star. That means tre will be 100 percent a super star next season and  this eeyore comment is ridiculous. you haven't seen enough in him yet? What a joke. You clearly hate him and the program. How dare you even hint at the idea he isn't a sure fire super star next season. How dare you offer honest harmless thoughts. tre is the goat

Good try at sarcasm, Johnny. Now have another shot of tequila!
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Johnny B

Quote from: MU82 on February 16, 2025, 05:44:13 PMGood try at sarcasm, Johnny. Now have another shot of tequila!
U got some?

taylor999

Tre's got potential, but he needs to show more, especially on offense. Zaide's defense is solid, though.

Vander Blue Man Group

I think everyone can agree that Chase and Ben will start next season.

I think Royce is the next most likely option to start. 

And then you'll have Sean, Tre, Nigel, Zaide, and Damarius competing for the other 2 spots.

As of today I'd lean Sean and Zaide. Damarius might have the biggest upside so if he has a great summer that wouldn't surprise me, either.

bilsu

Quote from: Johnny B on February 16, 2025, 03:55:09 PMWhat is this disgusting comment? oso did nothing his first year and then became a star. That means tre will be 100 percent a super star next season and  this eeyore comment is ridiculous. you haven't seen enough in him yet? What a joke. You clearly hate him and the program. How dare you even hint at the idea he isn't a sure fire super star next season. How dare you offer honest harmless thoughts. tre is the goat
Tre playing significant minutes next year will tell me our incoming freshmen guards are overrated.

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: bilsu on February 17, 2025, 09:21:08 AMTre playing significant minutes next year will tell me our incoming freshmen guards are overrated.

Or, more logically, it means Tre had a good summer and improved considerably.

tower912

It would tell me that Tre is a junior and freshmen are freshmen.   Trust growth, assume the freshmen have to go through their process.
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Uncle Rico

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on February 17, 2025, 09:22:54 AMOr, more logically, it means Tre had a good summer and improved considerably.

Bilsu hasn't been happy since Shaka got hired
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The Sultan

Quote from: bilsu on February 17, 2025, 09:21:08 AMTre playing significant minutes next year will tell me our incoming freshmen guards are overrated.

We do this every year with the freshmen. You'd think we'd learn at some point.

But its not hard to see why a junior, with two years experience under his belt, would be ahead of three freshmen who aren't one and done types. But I guess we had people suggesting *this off-season* that Stevie might lose his starting spot, so I shouldn't be surprised.
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Big Papi

Quote from: tower912 on February 17, 2025, 09:26:00 AMIt would tell me that Tre is a junior and freshmen are freshmen.   Trust growth, assume the freshmen have to go through their process.

Tre has a leg up on any freshmen coming in, even if he doesn't look the part right now.  Experience, size, going through the process at a collegiate level all matter. 

Which is the reason why so many programs are recruiting the transfer portal over freshmen. 

MU82

Quote from: bilsu on February 17, 2025, 09:21:08 AMTre playing significant minutes next year will tell me our incoming freshmen guards are overrated.

You said the same about Kolek near the end of his first season at MU.

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