Mid-season grades

[Warrior of Law]

Nearly every one of the key players has improved and exceeded expectations in '24-25. Stevie, Joplin, Ross, Gold and Kam have met or exceeded expectations ("A"). Lowery, Owens and Parham are positive developments ("B"). The only player who has been underwhelming is Norman, and his minutes will evaporate if Sean Jones returns. The goals for the team remain the same: win the BE, be in the conversation for a 1-2 seed in the NCAA.

[Newsdreams]

Hopefully all can read

[wadesworld]

I expected Kam to contend for BEPOY, and since he's only the favorite I can't give him higher than a C+.

[FairWeatherEagle]

Hopefully all can read

We really don't know...only that Bball has got to challenge what they do in the classroom. As for character though, they look real good from the outside-in. Shaka leadership, etc.
It was really good to see Jop in a PSA against drugs one day while I was watching something. Nice.

"Sometimes winning means not taking every shot I'm given,"

https://risedrugfreemke.org/news-events/blog.html/article/2024/11/27/partnering-with-mu-basketball-s-david-joplin-on-setting-boundaries-with-alcohol-and-other-drugs-multimedia-campaign

[Lennys Tap]

I'm with Brew. Team gets a C/D so far. Undefeated from here on out moves us up to a B, one loss puts us back at C/D, two or more losses means an F.

[Badgerhater]

D+.   At some point in a game I don't recall, MU had not covered the spread before the first media time out.

Unacceptable

[Jockey]

We are in the 2nd golden age of MU basketball.

So C- is about right. If not 1st, it can't be better than a 'C'.


As an aside, we really are in the 2nd golden age. ENJOY IT, people. Too many here can't accept success when they see it. Al would have been crucified on Scoop.

[GoldenEagles03]

We are in the 2nd golden age of MU basketball.

So C- is about right. If not 1st, it can't be better than a 'C'.


As an aside, we really are in the 2nd golden age. ENJOY IT, people. Too many here can't accept success when they see it. Al would have been crucified on Scoop.

Shaka seemed very business like last night in the postgame compared to his usual upbeat self.

Could be nothing, but this team is very good at taking the identity of their coach and one another...maybe they are just out for blood so to speak in the 2nd half of the year.

Last night certainly looked like it.

[Galway Eagle]

We are in the 2nd golden age of MU basketball.

So C- is about right. If not 1st, it can't be better than a 'C'.


As an aside, we really are in the 2nd golden age. ENJOY IT, people. Too many here can't accept success when they see it. Al would have been crucified on Scoop.

What was 02-13? I'd call 10/12 NCAA tournaments multiple top 10 teams, multiple conference championships, NCAA runs, NBA players and top 3 seeds worthy of calling it a golden age.

Maybe not 24 karat gold age but at least gold plated age.

[Shaka Shart]

We really don't know...only that Bball has got to challenge what they do in the classroom. As for character though, they look real good from the outside-in. Shaka leadership, etc.
It was really good to see Jop in a PSA against drugs one day while I was watching something. Nice.

"Sometimes winning means not taking every shot I'm given,"

https://risedrugfreemke.org/news-events/blog.html/article/2024/11/27/partnering-with-mu-basketball-s-david-joplin-on-setting-boundaries-with-alcohol-and-other-drugs-multimedia-campaign

@Newsdreams uh oh

[K1 Lover]

I expected Kam to contend for BEPOY, and since he's only the favorite I can't give him higher than a C+.

That's a bit too generous for me. Every player gets a D because the athletic department scheduled against Dayton.

[cheebs09]

What was 02-13? I'd call 10/12 NCAA tournaments multiple top 10 teams, multiple conference championships, NCAA runs, NBA players and top 3 seeds worthy of calling it a golden age.

Maybe not 24 karat gold age but at least gold plated age.

Agreed. I think we are doing some things we haven't done before, but the Crean/Buzz era was pretty good.

[Galway Eagle]

Agreed. I think we are doing some things we haven't done before, but the Crean/Buzz era was pretty good.

Exactly I don't think it takes anything away from the current era but let's summarize that span

Conference Champs: 2x

Made tournament: 10x

Seeds: 5, 3, 7, 8, 6, 6, 6, 11, 3, 3

Runs: 2 R32s, 2 S16s, 1 E8, 1 F4.

NBA: 12 players

Current run:

Conference champs: 1x

Conference tournament champs 1x

Made Tournament: 3x

Seeds: 9, 2, 2

Runs: 1 R32, 1 S16

NBA: 3 (4? Can't recall if Justin logged any time)

We need a few more years before we can act like the 02-13 run is clearly a notch below.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Interestingly I've never considered combining the Wade years with the amigos/Buzz years. I've always thought of them as two seperate eras. I don't think it's wrong to combine them, i just never have.

[mug644]

Interestingly I've never considered combining the Wade years with the amigos/Buzz years. I've always thought of them as two seperate eras. I don't think it's wrong to combine them, i just never have.

I'm the same. The end of 2004-05--with Diener's injury, a plethora of losses and the debacle against Western Michigan in the NIT--has always felt like the transition from one era to the next. I know Crean coached the Amigos the following year, but it just feels like a different time to me. Perhaps it was the move into the Big East in 2004-05 that is really the marker of a change in eras.

[Newsdreams]

Exactly I don't think it takes anything away from the current era but let's summarize that span

Conference Champs: 2x

Made tournament: 10x

Seeds: 5, 3, 7, 8, 6, 6, 6, 11, 3, 3

Runs: 2 R32s, 2 S16s, 1 E8, 1 F4.

NBA: 12 players

Current run:

Conference champs: 1x

Conference tournament champs 1x

Made Tournament: 3x

Seeds: 9, 2, 2

Runs: 1 R32, 1 S16

NBA: 3 (4? Can't recall if Justin logged any time)

We need a few more years before we can act like the 02-13 run is clearly a notch below.

Shaka suxs. We need to mix Woj / Shaka

[tower912]

Shaka suxs. We need to mix Woj / Shaka

With Kam and Stevie, MU still is.

[Newsdreams]

With Kam and Stevie, MU still is.

Shaka needs to thank Woj

[tower912]

He has before.

[Newsdreams]

He has before.

True

[Shaka Shart]

He has before.

Why is Shaka dwelling on the past instead of recruiting aircraft carriers

[tower912]

In all seriousness, my grades are based on being 12-2, 3-0, #8.  So, A.  I thought the preseason polls were fair with MU in the mid teens.  I also thought that MU'S ceiling was every bit as high as last season.   So far, so good.

Stay healthy, hit 3's, develop the bench.

[Jay Bee]

Need to see first semester GPAs before I'm able to opine

[Herman Cain]

Exactly I don't think it takes anything away from the current era but let's summarize that span

Conference Champs: 2x

Made tournament: 10x

Seeds: 5, 3, 7, 8, 6, 6, 6, 11, 3, 3

Runs: 2 R32s, 2 S16s, 1 E8, 1 F4.

NBA: 12 players

Current run:

Conference champs: 1x

Conference tournament champs 1x

Made Tournament: 3x

Seeds: 9, 2, 2

Runs: 1 R32, 1 S16

NBA: 3 (4? Can't recall if Justin logged any time)

We need a few more years before we can act like the 02-13 run is clearly a notch below.

02-13 Period was definitely an Excellent Age of MU Basketball. It built a very strong foundation which enabled MU to survive the Wojo era with our progress slowed but not stymied.

I was around during the Al era, Our Golden Age,and this current Age of MU Basketball is definitely starting to be reminiscent of the feeling we had during the early part of the Al era (when #24 and #14 made a lot of noise) 

MU has had very legitimate paths the last two years to winning a National Championship and barring injury have a bona fide path this year. Those pathways, past and present,  are validated by #2 seeds, consistent top 10 rankings, consistently beating top 10 teams, having the best individual player on the floor in multiple seasons, each who will rank among MU all time greats.  Yes it is early days in this age of MU basketball, and more time is needed, but the baseline is absolutely superb. I am very confident in Shaka's ability to build the program from here.

[Newsdreams]

Need to see first semester GPAs before I'm able to opine

And make sure they all can read