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MU82

Maybe UNC has been in contact with Phil Jackson's people.
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Its DJOver

FSU's Hamilton stepping down at the end of the season. ACC's looking a lot different than it did 5 years ago.
Scoop motto:
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 06, 2025, 06:04:29 PMthe stats bear that out, but

wadesworld

Quote from: Its DJOver on February 03, 2025, 02:38:03 PMFSU's Hamilton stepping down at the end of the season. ACC's looking a lot different than it did 5 years ago.

He had lost his fastball.

Mizzou better pony up to keep Gates around, or hope he likes Columbia a lot more than Tallahassee.

The Sultan

Quote from: Its DJOver on February 03, 2025, 02:38:03 PMFSU's Hamilton stepping down at the end of the season. ACC's looking a lot different than it did 5 years ago.

The only ACC coach who was hired prior to 2017 is Brad Brownell at Clemson.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Uncle Rico

Quote from: wadesworld on February 03, 2025, 02:44:39 PMHe had lost his fastball.

Mizzou better pony up to keep Gates around, or hope he likes Columbia a lot more than Tallahassee.

Hope Shaka takes this gig
Guster is for Lovers

tower912

Quote from: The Sultan on February 03, 2025, 02:45:28 PMThe only ACC coach who was hired prior to 2017 is Brad Brownell at Clemson.
The only Big East coach hired prior to 2017 is McDermott.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

brewcity77

Quote from: wadesworld on February 03, 2025, 02:44:39 PMHe had lost his fastball.

Mizzou better pony up to keep Gates around, or hope he likes Columbia a lot more than Tallahassee.

I'll be very interested in this. I can see Ham wanting Gates to follow him, but with the ACC's contract situation up in the air and the league as a whole declining, would it be better to be an upper half ACC team or a middle-of-the-road SEC team? Honestly not sure the answer to this.

Billy Hoyle

#82
Quote from: brewcity77 on February 03, 2025, 06:24:36 PMI'll be very interested in this. I can see Ham wanting Gates to follow him, but with the ACC's contract situation up in the air and the league as a whole declining, would it be better to be an upper half ACC team or a middle-of-the-road SEC team? Honestly not sure the answer to this.

I wonder if FSU will hire Turnkey and Gates' wife to conduct the "search."

ESPN is reportedly working on a new contract that will pay based upon viewership which is what FSU and Clemson want, which will stabilize the conference for a few more years
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

WhiteTrash

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on February 03, 2025, 06:34:35 PMESPN is reportedly working on a new contract that will pay based upon viewership which is what FSU and Clemson want, which will stabilize the conference for a few more years
Hearing the same thing. They think they can shift enough revenue to the unhappy schools to just make it worth while to stick it out as opposed to spending money to get out. Not a long term fix as you allude to and likely to hurt BC, Cuse, Pitt, Wake, etc.

Its DJOver

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/43722918/indiana-mens-college-basketball-coaching-candidates-mike-woodson-brad-stevens-bruce-pearl

Shaka listed in the "likely unattainable but worth making a call" list for the I4 opening. Both Buzz and McDermott listed in the "realistic" tier, but personally feel like they would both say no pretty quick too, unless they flirt to get a pay bump, which both have done in the past.
Scoop motto:
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 06, 2025, 06:04:29 PMthe stats bear that out, but

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: Its DJOver on February 07, 2025, 09:56:20 AMhttps://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/43722918/indiana-mens-college-basketball-coaching-candidates-mike-woodson-brad-stevens-bruce-pearl

Shaka listed in the "likely unattainable but worth making a call" list for the I4 opening. Both Buzz and McDermott listed in the "realistic" tier, but personally feel like they would both say no pretty quick too, unless they flirt to get a pay bump, which both have done in the past.

Indiana has booster money but the department is also running a deficit.

One of the Drew brothers seems like the most likely candidate, Brad Brownell at Clemson is someone ESPN didn't mention as a possible candidate, as well as Porter Moser. I could see them making a major push for Chris Beard due to the RMK ties, even if it's not connected to IU. I'm not sure there's another program that lives more in the past than IU. TJO is an intriguing possibility.
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cheebs09

Quote from: Its DJOver on February 07, 2025, 09:56:20 AMhttps://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/43722918/indiana-mens-college-basketball-coaching-candidates-mike-woodson-brad-stevens-bruce-pearl

Shaka listed in the "likely unattainable but worth making a call" list for the I4 opening. Both Buzz and McDermott listed in the "realistic" tier, but personally feel like they would both say no pretty quick too, unless they flirt to get a pay bump, which both have done in the past.

I have a tough time seeing Buzz in the Big 10. SEC seems to be a good fit for him. Especially now having some success.

GoldenWarrior11

Is it crazy to see how drastic the ACC has evolved in just a matter of seasons.

Gone are Roy Williams, Mike Krzyzewski, Rick Pitino, Jim Boeheim, Tony Bennett, Jim Larranaga and Leonard Williams.  Those are each HOF coaches and each was there over ten years at their respective schools.

Only Keatts and Davis are current head coaches that have reached a Final Four, but both are/have been on downward trajectories since those seasons.  I struggle to see the ACC ever returning to that high level of a league with coach recognition ever again. 

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: cheebs09 on February 07, 2025, 11:04:28 AMI have a tough time seeing Buzz in the Big 10. SEC seems to be a good fit for him. Especially now having some success.

Like his days at MU Buzz probably has his agent leaking stories to the press claiming he's a candidate for another job to get a raise and contract extension.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

wadesworld

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on February 07, 2025, 11:33:17 AMLike his days at MU Buzz probably has his agent leaking stories to the press claiming he's a candidate for another job to get a raise and contract extension.

Similar to most high major coaches in football and basketball.

tower912

Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on February 07, 2025, 11:31:23 AMIs it crazy to see how drastic the ACC has evolved in just a matter of seasons.

Gone are Roy Williams, Mike Krzyzewski, Rick Pitino, Jim Boeheim, Tony Bennett, Jim Larranaga and Leonard Williams.  Those are each HOF coaches and each was there over ten years at their respective schools.

Only Keatts and Davis are current head coaches that have reached a Final Four, but both are/have been on downward trajectories since those seasons.  I struggle to see the ACC ever returning to that high level of a league with coach recognition ever again. 
How many Big 10 coaches have been to a final 4?
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Billy Hoyle

#91
Quote from: tower912 on February 07, 2025, 11:53:02 AMHow many Big 10 coaches have been to a final 4?

Izzo
Painter
May (at FAU)
Altman (as a member of the Pac-12)

We can also look at the BE:
Hurley
Shaka (at VCU)
Slick Rick (at previous schools)
Matta (at Ohio State)
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tower912

You are correct.  I was being rhetorical.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

The Sultan

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on February 07, 2025, 10:17:12 AMIndiana has booster money but the department is also running a deficit.

One of the Drew brothers seems like the most likely candidate, Brad Brownell at Clemson is someone ESPN didn't mention as a possible candidate, as well as Porter Moser. I could see them making a major push for Chris Beard due to the RMK ties, even if it's not connected to IU. I'm not sure there's another program that lives more in the past than IU. TJO is an intriguing possibility.

Brad Brownell? He's done a very good job of having a decent enough season to make sure he survives at a place that doesn't care all that much about basketball. I think he would be overwhelmed at IU.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

wadesworld

Quote from: The Sultan on February 07, 2025, 03:12:31 PMBrad Brownell? He's done a very good job of having a decent enough season to make sure he survives at a place that doesn't care all that much about basketball. I think he would be overwhelmed at IU.

Same with Porter Moser.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: The Sultan on February 07, 2025, 03:12:31 PMBrad Brownell? He's done a very good job of having a decent enough season to make sure he survives at a place that doesn't care all that much about basketball. I think he would be overwhelmed at IU.

I've been told it's Brian Wardle's job.  They're dumping Woodson early to avoid a bidding war
Guster is for Lovers

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: The Sultan on February 07, 2025, 03:12:31 PMBrad Brownell? He's done a very good job of having a decent enough season to make sure he survives at a place that doesn't care all that much about basketball. I think he would be overwhelmed at IU.

His name was brought up last year when IU fans were hoping for an opening and once again today as he's an Indiana native. He would be more likely to get the job than half of the names listed in this article (Shaka, Stevens, Pearl, Oats, et al).

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/indiana/2025/02/07/indiana-basketball-coaching-candidates-who-will-iu-hire-to-replace-mike-woodson/77731461007/
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The Sultan

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on February 07, 2025, 03:46:32 PMHis name was brought up last year when IU fans were hoping for an opening and once again today as he's an Indiana native. He would be more likely to get the job than half of the names listed in this article (Shaka, Stevens, Pearl, Oats, et al).

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/indiana/2025/02/07/indiana-basketball-coaching-candidates-who-will-iu-hire-to-replace-mike-woodson/77731461007/

Of course he's more likely to get the job. Those people would say "no." Brad would probably say "yes." But he should never be offered the job. So what if he is from Indiana - that's the continued provincial thinking that gets them hiring people like Mike Woodson.

He has by and large been mediocre at a place that doesn't care about basketball. Every so often does well enough to earn a contract extension.

If that's the best they can do, they're in trouble.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

The Equalizer

Quote from: The Sultan on February 07, 2025, 03:54:28 PMOf course he's more likely to get the job. Those people would say "no." Brad would probably say "yes." But he should never be offered the job. So what if he is from Indiana - that's the continued provincial thinking that gets them hiring people like Mike Woodson.

He has by and large been mediocre at a place that doesn't care about basketball. Every so often does well enough to earn a contract extension.

If that's the best they can do, they're in trouble.

On the other hand, he's had just 1 losing record in 14 years at a place that doesn't care about basketball.

The big unknown is whether he's the next Oliver Purnell or the next Rick Barnes?

Pakuni

Quote from: wadesworld on February 03, 2025, 02:44:39 PMHe had lost his fastball.

Mizzou better pony up to keep Gates around, or hope he likes Columbia a lot more than Tallahassee.

FSU sent all its NIL money to football.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on February 07, 2025, 12:01:59 PMIzzo
Painter
May (at FAU)
Altman (as a member of the Pac-12)

We can also look at the BE:
Hurley
Shaka (at VCU)
Slick Rick (at previous schools)
Matta (at Ohio State)


Mick Cronin slander.

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