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Zog from Margo

Quote from: Jay Bee on November 28, 2024, 04:50:42 PMMedved 2 gophers ainal

Gophers should go for Dutcher. More poetic.

avid1010

Quote from: oldwarrior81 on November 28, 2024, 04:44:12 PMisn't Nova paying Neptune (Inept-une) over $4 million a year?
They seem willing to pay for the "wright" coach.

They also just brought in a Nova grad as new AD that had been at Oregon.

Would they be willing to give someone like Archie Miller (Rhode Island) another chance at the top?  Although he hasn't been very impressive since his run at Dayton.  The Indiana/covid stint didn't end well.
Wrong Miller.

oldwarrior81

Sean Miller is pulling in about $5 million a year at Xavier.
I think he would prove to be a difficult pull for Nova

Tyler COLEk

Sean Miller would be a pretty weak hire for Nova.

MU82

Quote from: Tyler COLEk on November 29, 2024, 07:23:09 PMSean Miller would be a pretty weak hire for Nova.

What realistic candidate do you think would be a good hire for them?
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Tyler COLEk

#56
Quote from: MU82 on November 30, 2024, 12:05:41 AMWhat realistic candidate do you think would be a good hire for them?

It's a pretty grim outlook for Nova. They should've fired Neptune after last year and made a run at Dusty May or Eric Musselman. As is stands, I'd say they should be getting ducks in a row to make the offer of a lifetime to TJ Otzelberger or, even less likely, Nate Oats.

I'm being a bit hard on Sean Miller given X's injury issues last year. He'd be in the acceptable-but-unexciting second tier. If you're poaching a Big East coach, I'd probably rather have Doug McDermott.

Brian Dutcher, Wes Miller and Grant McCasland would be risky but interesting candidates, though probably aren't the right fit geographically.

The Sultan

Quote from: Tyler COLEk on November 30, 2024, 03:26:10 AMIt's a pretty grim outlook for Nova. They should've fired Neptune after last year and made a run at Dusty May or Eric Musselman. As is stands, I'd say they should be getting ducks in a row to make the offer of a lifetime to TJ Otzelberger or, even less likely, Nate Oats.

I'm being a bit hard on Sean Miller given X's injury issues last year. He'd be in the acceptable-but-unexciting second tier. If you're poaching a Big East coach, I'd probably rather have Doug McDermott.

Brian Dutcher, Wes Miller and Grant McCasland would be risky but interesting candidates, though probably aren't the right fit geographically.

May, Musselman, Oats, TJO, are and were never going to be on Nova's radar. Why would TJO leave ISU for Villanova? Ditto Oats and Alabama?

The guys they missed out on last year were the likes of DeVries and Kelsey. They would probably look at someone similar this time. Like a Bob Richey.
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I don't get the Sean Miller love.  The guy was very good (not great) when NIL was cheating. Now that everyone can "cheat", what does he bring to the table?
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MUDPT

Watching Oklahoma last night, would Moser be interested in a switch to some place like Villanova? Oklahoma just seems to be destined to the middle of the SEC forever now.

The Sultan

Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on November 30, 2024, 07:15:07 AMI don't get the Sean Miller love.  The guy was very good (not great) when NIL was cheating. Now that everyone can "cheat", what does he bring to the table?

Yep. I feel similarly.
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The Sultan

Quote from: MUDPT on November 30, 2024, 07:25:41 AMWatching Oklahoma last night, would Moser be interested in a switch to some place like Villanova? Oklahoma just seems to be destined to the middle of the SEC forever now.

That's actually not a bad idea.
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Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 30, 2024, 09:35:59 AMThat's actually not a bad idea.

I could see this. but really think Nova could do better. So "not a bad idea", but not a great one either in my opinion. And before you ask....no one comes to mind, but the NCAA tourney always seems to showcase a coach who has been somewhat overlooked.
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The Sultan

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on November 30, 2024, 09:42:54 AMI could see this. but really think Nova could do better. So "not a bad idea", but not a great one either in my opinion.

Why do you think they can do better?
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Scoop Snoop

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 30, 2024, 09:46:10 AMWhy do you think they can do better?

Because of their fairly recent success. The cache' of the Nova name, the 2 nattys, the BE (even though the BE is looking a little shabby at the moment). Moser has had some success in the Big 12 which is widely considered the best bball conference and now is in the SEC. I'm just not seeing enough that says he's the best they can do.
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

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The Sultan

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on November 30, 2024, 10:14:14 AMBecause of their fairly recent success. The cache' of the Nova name, the 2 nattys, the BE (even though the BE is looking a little shabby at the moment). Moser has had some success in the Big 12 which is widely considered the best bball conference and now is in the SEC. I'm just not seeing enough that says he's the best they can do.

I just don't think very good coaches move because of cache and recent national titles. They move because they are going to be paid more and have more resources at their disposal. That is why some of the names mentioned would never really work for Nova.
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Scoop Snoop

#66
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 30, 2024, 10:18:23 AMI just don't think very good coaches move because of cache and recent national titles. They move because they are going to be paid more and have more resources at their disposal. That is why some of the names mentioned would never really work for Nova.

Gotcha! We shall see. The new AD is surely working on this Big Time.

Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

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forgetful

Quote from: MU82 on November 30, 2024, 12:05:41 AMWhat realistic candidate do you think would be a good hire for them?

Mick Cronin to Nova.

DoctorV

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 30, 2024, 09:46:10 AMWhy do you think they can do better?

Because Marquette did better, and Villanova is coming off of a recent dynasty with a few Nattys.

Porter is fine, he would likely be a good fit there, but I'm not sure they would be anywhere close to previous levels with him.
Definitely a level up from Neptune, but yea there's probably more elite hires.

I just haven't thought of who.

Jay Wright himself getting back into it would be best option, so they should at least call him 😃

Tyler COLEk

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 30, 2024, 07:01:42 AMMay, Musselman, Oats, TJO, are and were never going to be on Nova's radar. Why would TJO leave ISU for Villanova? Ditto Oats and Alabama?

The guys they missed out on last year were the likes of DeVries and Kelsey. They would probably look at someone similar this time. Like a Bob Richey.

I think you're too low on Nova's potential to draw high-end candidates. The shine has worn off a bit post-Jay Wright, but they're a better job than an Iowa State.

They also have elite spending. They could probably nearly double Otzelberger's $3m salary.

brewcity77

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 30, 2024, 07:01:42 AMThe guys they missed out on last year were the likes of DeVries and Kelsey. They would probably look at someone similar this time. Like a Bob Richey.

I think Richey would be a great hire there. Heard Speedy Claxton's name, not sure he's shown enough yet. Feels like it's just a Jay-connection hire, which they don't need IMO.

Its DJOver

Does UNC open up if they don't make the tournament? 

A title game appearance buys you a lot of goodwill, but then you go from preseason no. 1 to no bid.  That takes a lot of it away.

Now they come off a 1 seed/S16, pre season top 10 and are very bubbly looking. Brew had them as his last team in last update. Very difficult Noncon-SOS, but only 2 Q1 wins and there won't be a ton of opportunities in the ACC this year, plus a ton of opportunities for bad losses.

Would no dance 2 out of 4 years with UNC level of expectations and insta-transfers get Davis fired?
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Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 06, 2025, 06:04:29 PMthe stats bear that out, but

WhiteTrash

Quote from: Its DJOver on January 03, 2025, 01:57:25 PMDoes UNC open up if they don't make the tournament? 

A title game appearance buys you a lot of goodwill, but then you go from preseason no. 1 to no bid.  That takes a lot of it away.

Now they come off a 1 seed/S16, pre season top 10 and are very bubbly looking. Brew had them as his last team in last update. Very difficult Noncon-SOS, but only 2 Q1 wins and there won't be a ton of opportunities in the ACC this year, plus a ton of opportunities for bad losses.

Would no dance 2 out of 4 years with UNC level of expectations and insta-transfers get Davis fired?
I'd think hot seat, but not fired.

Plus, UNC is a football school now, didn't you hear?

Hards Alumni

Quote from: WhiteTrash on January 03, 2025, 02:04:06 PMI'd think hot seat, but not fired.

Plus, UNC is a football school now, didn't you hear?

Yep, I agree.

Richie

Quote from: Hards Alumni on January 03, 2025, 02:12:19 PMYep, I agree.
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