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The Lens

Doc is only up there because Crean fell in love with his celebrity.

This is a #mubb award.  There's nothing wrong with #mubb fans holding it to a high standard.
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MUDPT

Quote from: The Lens on October 19, 2024, 06:01:00 AM
Doc is only up there because Crean fell in love with his celebrity.

This is a #mubb award.  There's nothing wrong with #mubb fans holding it to a high standard.

TC also wanted his son (the one who didn't play in the NBA) at MU.

4everwarriors

"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

tower912

I never saw Chones play.   Before my time.   But when I hear the story of Al looking in his refrigerator and telling Chones to go pro in mid-season, I wonder what might have been if NIL was a thing 50+ years ago.  And I marvel that Al didn't 'know a booster' that could hook the kid up.   
   
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It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

4everwarriors

"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Uncle Rico

Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

Viper

Quote from: dgies9156 on October 18, 2024, 10:22:03 AM
Jim Chones was transformative, the way Dean the Dream and George Thompson.

Degree or no degree, this is long overdue.

Congratulations Jim, and thank you!
amen! 49-1 in his 50 games!

dgies9156

How many of you who are advocating for other MU greats in the rafters were actually alive when Jim Chones was at Marquette?

I suspect not many. Those of us who were there know the impact Mr. Chones had. We were a good team before Mr. Chones arrived. We were an elite team afterward. He was a game changer. The fact that we were crestfallen when he turned pro is endemic of what he meant to us.

My feelings are well known about Markus. I'm not going to rehash them here. There's a few other folks that deserve jersey retirement, notably TKO, because they were gamechangers for our program.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: dgies9156 on October 19, 2024, 07:56:43 AM
How many of you who are advocating for other MU greats in the rafters were actually alive when Jim Chones was at Marquette?

I suspect not many. Those of us who were there know the impact Mr. Chones had. We were a good team before Mr. Chones arrived. We were an elite team afterward. He was a game changer. The fact that we were crestfallen when he turned pro is endemic of what he meant to us.

My feelings are well known about Markus. I'm not going to rehash them here. There's a few other folks that deserve jersey retirement, notably TKO, because they were gamechangers for our program.

Is anyone saying Chones shouldn't be up there? If anything it should have happened years ago.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

dgies9156

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on October 19, 2024, 07:58:54 AM
If anything it should have happened years ago.

Brother Hippie:

You and I are on the same page with this point.

The fact that it took so damn long is reflective of a lot of people who are still hurting about the way he left.


Uncle Rico

Quote from: dgies9156 on October 19, 2024, 08:01:41 AM
Brother Hippie:

You and I are on the same page with this point.

The fact that it took so damn long is reflective of a lot of people who are still hurting about the way he left.

Nobody at Marquette has cared how he left for decades
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Yeah I think it was the lack of a degree thing for a while, and then I just think he was overlooked. No one around cares how he left. That was 50 years ago!
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

BCHoopster

Quote from: tower912 on October 19, 2024, 07:33:03 AM
I never saw Chones play.   Before my time.   But when I hear the story of Al looking in his refrigerator and telling Chones to go pro in mid-season, I wonder what might have been if NIL was a thing 50+ years ago.  And I marvel that Al didn't 'know a booster' that could hook the kid up.   


Most dominant big man ever at MU, second best player at that time, Bill Walton was better.  Chones wanted to finish the season, it was a shame Al did not let that happen, quit like in February
So the season was almost done. As a fan, it was disappointing!
   

MuggsyB

Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 19, 2024, 08:02:54 AM
Nobody at Marquette has cared how he left for decades

I don't think that's true. 

dgies9156

Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 19, 2024, 08:02:54 AM
Nobody at Marquette has cared how he left for decades

Brother Rico:

Are you kidding me??????????


Most fans of that era who are still alive just don't talk about it. The situation was too painful.

If we didn't care, Mr. Chones' jersey would have been retired in 1985 or so.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: dgies9156 on October 19, 2024, 08:09:38 AM
Brother Rico:

Are you kidding me??????????


Most fans of that era who are still alive just don't talk about it. The situation was too painful.

If we didn't care, Mr. Chones' jersey would have been retired in 1985 or so.

So, all the administrations of the last 30+ years have said no to it?  Come on.
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

dgies9156

Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 19, 2024, 08:11:24 AM
So, all the administrations of the last 30+ years have said no to it?  Come on.

NO, the memories of what could and probably should have been were too painful.

I believe administrators didn't want to reopen the Chones matter.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: dgies9156 on October 19, 2024, 08:13:39 AM
NO, the memories of what could and probably should have been were too painful.

I believe administrators didn't want to reopen the Chones matter.

Well, I'll defer to the older gen of Marquette fans but if that's the case, what a bunch of snowflakes
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

mileskishnish72

Quote from: dgies9156 on October 18, 2024, 03:18:56 PM
Jim Chones was a game changer for Marquette.  When he was here, we were almost unbeatable.

Again, thank you Mr. Chones for what you did for Marquette and the happiness you brought while you were here.

Amen.

4everwarriors

"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: dgies9156 on October 19, 2024, 08:13:39 AM
NO, the memories of what could and probably should have been were too painful.

I believe administrators didn't want to reopen the Chones matter.

That's absurd. Nobody has cared for a long time.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

brewcity77

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on October 19, 2024, 08:56:01 AM
That's absurd. Nobody has cared for a long time.

I don't know, if you told me there were some wealthy septuagenarians still fueled by grievances from 40-50 years ago tying up the system, that feels believable.
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Frenns Liquor Depot

I'm with you Brew. People get unreasonably mad about silly things.  All it takes is one or two of the right boosters. I don't know it's the case but it's certainly plausible. 

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

#73
While certainly possible, that situation feels very doubtful to me.

And if that was the case, I'm extremely disappointed in Marquette for caving like that.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

brewcity77

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on October 19, 2024, 09:34:45 AM
While certainly possible, that situation feels very doubtful to me.

And if that was the case, I'm extremely disappointed in Marquette for caving like that.

How often does the topic even come up? Maybe every 5-10 years? And if those donors were also board members reinforcing past criteria like postseason accomplishments and a diploma, is it that far fetched? It's not like this has been a constant cry from the fans going unresolved.
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