Marquette Retiring Jim Chones Jersey

[The Lens]

Doc is only up there because Crean fell in love with his celebrity.

This is a #mubb award.  There's nothing wrong with #mubb fans holding it to a high standard.

[MUDPT]

Doc is only up there because Crean fell in love with his celebrity.

This is a #mubb award.  There's nothing wrong with #mubb fans holding it to a high standard.

TC also wanted his son (the one who didn't play in the NBA) at MU.

[4everwarriors]

Great, now send 0 up alongside it.

Oliver Lee, hey?

[tower912]

I never saw Chones play.   Before my time.   But when I hear the story of Al looking in his refrigerator and telling Chones to go pro in mid-season, I wonder what might have been if NIL was a thing 50+ years ago.  And I marvel that Al didn't 'know a booster' that could hook the kid up.   
   

[4everwarriors]

Did you?

Probably online from Herzog, aina?

[Uncle Rico]

Probably online from Herzog, aina?

No, I'm not a dentist

[Viper]

Jim Chones was transformative, the way Dean the Dream and George Thompson.

Degree or no degree, this is long overdue.

Congratulations Jim, and thank you!

amen! 49-1 in his 50 games!

[dgies9156]

How many of you who are advocating for other MU greats in the rafters were actually alive when Jim Chones was at Marquette?

I suspect not many. Those of us who were there know the impact Mr. Chones had. We were a good team before Mr. Chones arrived. We were an elite team afterward. He was a game changer. The fact that we were crestfallen when he turned pro is endemic of what he meant to us.

My feelings are well known about Markus. I'm not going to rehash them here. There's a few other folks that deserve jersey retirement, notably TKO, because they were gamechangers for our program.

[The Sultan]

How many of you who are advocating for other MU greats in the rafters were actually alive when Jim Chones was at Marquette?

I suspect not many. Those of us who were there know the impact Mr. Chones had. We were a good team before Mr. Chones arrived. We were an elite team afterward. He was a game changer. The fact that we were crestfallen when he turned pro is endemic of what he meant to us.

My feelings are well known about Markus. I'm not going to rehash them here. There's a few other folks that deserve jersey retirement, notably TKO, because they were gamechangers for our program.

Is anyone saying Chones shouldn't be up there? If anything it should have happened years ago.

[dgies9156]

If anything it should have happened years ago.

Brother Hippie:

You and I are on the same page with this point.

The fact that it took so damn long is reflective of a lot of people who are still hurting about the way he left.

[Uncle Rico]

Brother Hippie:

You and I are on the same page with this point.

The fact that it took so damn long is reflective of a lot of people who are still hurting about the way he left.

Nobody at Marquette has cared how he left for decades

[The Sultan]

Yeah I think it was the lack of a degree thing for a while, and then I just think he was overlooked. No one around cares how he left. That was 50 years ago!

[BCHoopster]

I never saw Chones play.   Before my time.   But when I hear the story of Al looking in his refrigerator and telling Chones to go pro in mid-season, I wonder what might have been if NIL was a thing 50+ years ago.  And I marvel that Al didn't 'know a booster' that could hook the kid up.   


Most dominant big man ever at MU, second best player at that time, Bill Walton was better.  Chones wanted to finish the season, it was a shame Al did not let that happen, quit like in February
So the season was almost done. As a fan, it was disappointing!
   

[MuggsyB]

Nobody at Marquette has cared how he left for decades

I don't think that's true. 

[dgies9156]

Nobody at Marquette has cared how he left for decades

Brother Rico:

Are you kidding me??????????

Most fans of that era who are still alive just don't talk about it. The situation was too painful.

If we didn't care, Mr. Chones' jersey would have been retired in 1985 or so.

[Uncle Rico]

Brother Rico:

Are you kidding me??????????

Most fans of that era who are still alive just don't talk about it. The situation was too painful.

If we didn't care, Mr. Chones' jersey would have been retired in 1985 or so.

So, all the administrations of the last 30+ years have said no to it?  Come on.

[dgies9156]

So, all the administrations of the last 30+ years have said no to it?  Come on.

NO, the memories of what could and probably should have been were too painful.

I believe administrators didn't want to reopen the Chones matter.

[Uncle Rico]

NO, the memories of what could and probably should have been were too painful.

I believe administrators didn't want to reopen the Chones matter.

Well, I'll defer to the older gen of Marquette fans but if that's the case, what a bunch of snowflakes

[mileskishnish72]

Jim Chones was a game changer for Marquette.  When he was here, we were almost unbeatable.

Again, thank you Mr. Chones for what you did for Marquette and the happiness you brought while you were here.

Amen.

[4everwarriors]

No, I'm not a dentist

Thank you Captain Obvious, hey?

[The Sultan]

NO, the memories of what could and probably should have been were too painful.

I believe administrators didn't want to reopen the Chones matter.

That's absurd. Nobody has cared for a long time.

[brewcity77]

That's absurd. Nobody has cared for a long time.

I don't know, if you told me there were some wealthy septuagenarians still fueled by grievances from 40-50 years ago tying up the system, that feels believable.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

I'm with you Brew. People get unreasonably mad about silly things.  All it takes is one or two of the right boosters. I don't know it's the case but it's certainly plausible. 

[The Sultan]

While certainly possible, that situation feels very doubtful to me.

And if that was the case, I'm extremely disappointed in Marquette for caving like that.

[brewcity77]

While certainly possible, that situation feels very doubtful to me.

And if that was the case, I'm extremely disappointed in Marquette for caving like that.

How often does the topic even come up? Maybe every 5-10 years? And if those donors were also board members reinforcing past criteria like postseason accomplishments and a diploma, is it that far fetched? It's not like this has been a constant cry from the fans going unresolved.