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[New to PT] Big East Roster Tracker
« on: April 19, 2024, 03:23:58 PM »
https://painttouches.com/2024/04/19/2024-big-east-roster-tracker/

We did this two seasons ago and decided to bring it back this season. An all in one resource that shows what each Big East team is losing, what they're gaining, and what's still up in the air this offseason. We'll be updating every few days.

Marquette looking very stable.

Depaul and Xavier looking very unstable but bringing in a lot transfers to hopefully come back stronger.

St. John's looking very unstable and no movement yet in the portal
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Re: [New to PT] Big East Roster Tracker
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2024, 04:03:27 PM »
https://painttouches.com/2024/04/19/2024-big-east-roster-tracker/

We did this two seasons ago and decided to bring it back this season. An all in one resource that shows what each Big East team is losing, what they're gaining, and what's still up in the air this offseason. We'll be updating every few days.

Marquette looking very stable.

Depaul and Xavier looking very unstable but bringing in a lot transfers to hopefully come back stronger.

St. John's looking very unstable and no movement yet in the portal

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Re: [New to PT] Big East Roster Tracker
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2024, 04:32:41 PM »
Small Center.  Duh.
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Re: [New to PT] Big East Roster Tracker
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2024, 05:32:20 PM »
https://painttouches.com/2024/04/19/2024-big-east-roster-tracker/

We did this two seasons ago and decided to bring it back this season. An all in one resource that shows what each Big East team is losing, what they're gaining, and what's still up in the air this offseason. We'll be updating every few days.

Marquette looking very stable.

Depaul and Xavier looking very unstable but bringing in a lot transfers to hopefully come back stronger.

St. John's looking very unstable and no movement yet in the portal
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Re: [New to PT] Big East Roster Tracker
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2024, 07:31:52 PM »
Mentions Hopkins of Providence returning from injury as an addition. No mention of Sean Jones for Marquette.

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Re: [New to PT] Big East Roster Tracker
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2024, 07:41:15 PM »
Makes me appreciate stability.
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Re: [New to PT] Big East Roster Tracker
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2024, 08:33:29 PM »
All the movement makes me feel a lot better about MU's chances to be top 3 again in the Big East

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Re: [New to PT] Big East Roster Tracker
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2024, 09:34:36 PM »
Mentions Hopkins of Providence returning from injury as an addition. No mention of Sean Jones for Marquette.

I noticed that too, but my guess is that's because he is not expected to be able to play at the beginning of the season. Also, there has been speculation that he will redshirt rather than coming in later. Hopkins will begin in November.
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Re: [New to PT] Big East Roster Tracker
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2024, 09:21:15 AM »
Mentions Hopkins of Providence returning from injury as an addition. No mention of Sean Jones for Marquette.

Honestly, not sure we'll see Jones next year. If his timetable is February, is it worth him giving up a year of eligibility like freshman Junior Cadougan did for 6 weeks of playing time?
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Re: [New to PT] Big East Roster Tracker
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2024, 09:41:20 AM »
Honestly, not sure we'll see Jones next year. If his timetable is February, is it worth him giving up a year of eligibility like freshman Junior Cadougan did for 6 weeks of playing time?

For the player, preserving eligibility is in their best interest.  For the school, it depends. 

Keeping Greg Elliott out hurt Marquette's guard depth in 2019.  Then Greg used his final year of eligibility at Pittsburgh.  So Marquette didn't benefit in that scenario.

If Tre, Zaide, and Damarius are playing well then it makes sense to let Sean sit out.  But if we need depth and Sean in healthy enough to play effectively, I say play him.

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Re: [New to PT] Big East Roster Tracker
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2024, 09:48:59 AM »
Agree that it will be circumstantial, but Greg did play 4 years at Marquette and I believe appeared in every game he was available for. No one in 2018-19 knew that a global pandemic would change eligibility rules or that Greg's coach would be fired in the middle of said pandemic. I also think there was a mutual comfort level with Greg leaving after 2022.

I don't think Marquette was harmed at all in that scenario.

I do agree that it will be circumstantial. We'll see where the team is at when Sean is available, but I do think it is difficult to bring in a rotation guard recovering from injury that late in the season. Looking back at Junior, that was the definition of a wasted year of eligibility.
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Re: [New to PT] Big East Roster Tracker
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2024, 09:49:24 AM »
For the player, preserving eligibility is in their best interest.  For the school, it depends. 

Keeping Greg Elliott out hurt Marquette's guard depth in 2019.  Then Greg used his final year of eligibility at Pittsburgh.  So Marquette didn't benefit in that scenario.

If Tre, Zaide, and Damarius are playing well then it makes sense to let Sean sit out.  But if we need depth and Sean in healthy enough to play effectively, I say play him.
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Re: [New to PT] Big East Roster Tracker
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2024, 09:52:38 AM »
coming back too soon risks a reinjury.

The assumption is that he would be cleared obviously.
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Re: [New to PT] Big East Roster Tracker
« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2024, 10:01:12 AM »
Yes, obviously Sean has to be healthy enough to be cleared.  When he is cleared changes the calculus.

Dec 1 or early?  Likely return.

~Jan 1  maybe 50/50

~Feb 1 Unlikely return.

It really just depends on how rehab goes.

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Re: [New to PT] Big East Roster Tracker
« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2024, 10:07:00 AM »
Honestly, not sure we'll see Jones next year. If his timetable is February, is it worth him giving up a year of eligibility like freshman Junior Cadougan did for 6 weeks of playing time?

To me, the other questions are where and how he would fit into the roster midway into the season?












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Re: [New to PT] Big East Roster Tracker
« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2024, 12:39:04 PM »
The assumption is that he would be cleared obviously.

"Kolek cleared" or actually cleared?

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Re: [New to PT] Big East Roster Tracker
« Reply #16 on: April 20, 2024, 09:42:44 PM »
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Re: [New to PT] Big East Roster Tracker
« Reply #17 on: April 20, 2024, 09:48:29 PM »
Mentions Hopkins of Providence returning from injury as an addition. No mention of Sean Jones for Marquette.

My reasoning is that based both on what's publically known and what I've heard from others about the injury, I'm very doubtful that Sean will play next season. But it is a fair point that I don't know that to be the case. During my next update I'll add him to Marquette's "In Flux" category.
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Re: [New to PT] Big East Roster Tracker
« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2024, 03:08:24 PM »
https://painttouches.com/2024/04/19/2024-big-east-roster-tracker/

Roster tracker updated. Every team except Marquette has an update this week, continuing our quiet offseason. Meanwhile Seton Hall has lost every one of their starters and all but one of their significant bench players. We also added some projected starting lineups and it is not looking good for the Pirate or Wildcats, both of whom we project starting multiple freshmen at this point.
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Re: [New to PT] Big East Roster Tracker
« Reply #19 on: April 25, 2024, 03:17:10 PM »
https://painttouches.com/2024/04/19/2024-big-east-roster-tracker/

Roster tracker updated. Every team except Marquette has an update this week, continuing our quiet offseason. Meanwhile Seton Hall has lost every one of their starters and all but one of their significant bench players. We also added some projected starting lineups and it is not looking good for the Pirate or Wildcats, both of whom we project starting multiple freshmen at this point.

I think it’s possible Seton Hall’s experience in the NIT won’t matter next season
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Re: [New to PT] Big East Roster Tracker
« Reply #20 on: April 25, 2024, 03:20:51 PM »
https://painttouches.com/2024/04/19/2024-big-east-roster-tracker/

Roster tracker updated. Every team except Marquette has an update this week, continuing our quiet offseason. Meanwhile Seton Hall has lost every one of their starters and all but one of their significant bench players. We also added some projected starting lineups and it is not looking good for the Pirate or Wildcats, both of whom we project starting multiple freshmen at this point.

Isn't there something like 1700 players in the portal?  It is certainly going to the interesting watching some of the high major teams scramble to put together teams filled with mid major players in a hurry only to go 10-20 for the year.

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Re: [New to PT] Big East Roster Tracker
« Reply #21 on: April 25, 2024, 05:35:49 PM »
I think it’s possible Seton Hall’s experience in the NIT won’t matter next season

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« Reply #22 on: April 25, 2024, 05:51:25 PM »
Rico, as much as I enjoy your shtick, you gotta stop with the SHU/NIT.

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Re: [New to PT] Big East Roster Tracker
« Reply #23 on: April 26, 2024, 08:41:22 AM »
Edit to Georgetown list: Cam Bacote was not a walk-on.

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« Reply #24 on: April 27, 2024, 12:29:11 PM »
Trey Alexander announced he’s going pro - although this was generally expected, still a big loss for Creighton.

 

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