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Re: Point guard or big
« Reply #25 on: April 15, 2024, 08:40:45 AM »
I'd like to see a 7-ft, 3-pt-marksman aircraft carrier who can run the point. In a blender, if possible.

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Re: Point guard or big
« Reply #26 on: April 15, 2024, 09:01:21 AM »
I'd like to see a 7-ft, 3-pt-marksman aircraft carrier who can run the point. In a blender, if possible.

Right, my answer was point-center.

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Re: Point guard or big
« Reply #27 on: April 15, 2024, 09:03:29 AM »
Are we talking about adding depth or taking minutes from our projected starters?

I would think a big would be good for depth.

Adding a starting pg would mean (most likely) Chase coming off the bench again.  Adding a starting 4/5 would have a similar effect on Jop/Gold.

I am happy going into next year with what we have plus filling the last schollie available with size.

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Re: Point guard or big
« Reply #28 on: April 15, 2024, 09:19:32 AM »
I'd like to see a 7-ft, 3-pt-marksman aircraft carrier who can run the point. In a blender, if possible.

I just don't get why Shaka didn't get Wemby.
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Re: Point guard or big
« Reply #29 on: April 15, 2024, 09:24:50 AM »
I just don't get why Shaka didn't get Wemby.

Shaka cooled on him
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Re: Point guard or big
« Reply #30 on: April 15, 2024, 09:54:21 AM »
Are we talking about adding depth or taking minutes from our projected starters?

I would think a big would be good for depth.

Adding a starting pg would mean (most likely) Chase coming off the bench again.  Adding a starting 4/5 would have a similar effect on Jop/Gold.

I am happy going into next year with what we have plus filling the last schollie available with size.

Honest question-Are you suggesting that a transfer "with size" would be happy coming off the bench?

Your comments on Chase, Jop and Gold are valid.

Tower's question seems simple at first glance, but I am struggling with how to answer it.  :-\
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Re: Point guard or big
« Reply #31 on: April 15, 2024, 10:16:05 AM »

"Honest question-Are you suggesting that a transfer "with size" would be happy coming off the bench?"

I don't know if it is possible, but I would think there is someone who would take the compromise of some NIL + being on a good team and making a contribution.


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Re: Point guard or big
« Reply #32 on: April 15, 2024, 10:20:06 AM »
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Re: Point guard or big
« Reply #33 on: April 15, 2024, 10:26:42 AM »
If we could get a 4-5 stud, then Jolpin could go back to sixth man where he excelled.

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« Reply #34 on: April 15, 2024, 10:30:39 AM »
I would be tremendously surprised if Joplin comes off the bench regardless.
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Re: Point guard or big
« Reply #35 on: April 15, 2024, 11:09:11 AM »
"Honest question-Are you suggesting that a transfer "with size" would be happy coming off the bench?"

I don't know if it is possible, but I would think there is someone who would take the compromise of some NIL + being on a good team and making a contribution.

I could see an under-the -radar, probably freshman transfer that Shaka sees as having potential. Mid major. The deal might be the guy has to prove himself off the bench for a season.

In the above case, I'll go with a big as my answer.
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« Reply #36 on: April 15, 2024, 11:36:38 AM »
If we could get a 4-5 stud, then Jolpin could go back to sixth man where he excelled.

Give us your top-5 targets.

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Re: Point guard or big
« Reply #37 on: April 15, 2024, 11:38:56 AM »
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Re: Point guard or big
« Reply #38 on: April 15, 2024, 11:40:28 AM »
PG.

Sean may not be ready and Kam is not a PG any more than Vander was. He can play capably for short stretches, but he is a MUCH better off-ball guard than a PG.

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Re: Point guard or big
« Reply #39 on: April 15, 2024, 11:41:16 AM »
I think we need more depth deep. Ben may pick it up, but after him it's ?????

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Re: Point guard or big
« Reply #40 on: April 15, 2024, 02:49:46 PM »
Assume MU has one scholarship.   Do you want a PG or size?

Both are needed. So regrettably someone should go if our priority is to progress further. To assume any human can with 100% accuracy pick  players that can perform at a high level and play team basketball is unrealistic. Mistakes are made by the best of us. Shaka is no exception.
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Re: Point guard or big
« Reply #41 on: April 15, 2024, 02:56:00 PM »
How is having a stable roster a mistake? 
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Re: Point guard or big
« Reply #42 on: April 15, 2024, 02:58:36 PM »
Both are needed. So regrettably someone should go if our priority is to progress further. To assume any human can with 100% accuracy pick  players that can perform at a high level and play team basketball is unrealistic. Mistakes are made by the best of us. Shaka is no exception.

Who should go?

Do you think Shaka will change his M.O.? (regarding "high level and team basketball")

What mistake(s) do you think Shaka made?

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Re: Point guard or big
« Reply #43 on: April 15, 2024, 03:14:14 PM »
Who should go?

Do you think Shaka will change his M.O.? (regarding "high level and team basketball")

What mistake(s) do you think Shaka made?

I doubt he will change his M.O. but some adjustment given different circumstances would show some flexibility. It is never pleasant to let someone go but it is also unpleasant to sit on the bench except for minutes when the game is already decided.

As to who that should be is obvious to me at this point. I am confident, since you asked the question, you disagree which is fine.
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Re: Point guard or big
« Reply #44 on: April 15, 2024, 03:22:09 PM »
A year ago, Keeyan and Emarion both left.  I think it is clear that Shaka and the staff are optimistic about the 12 returning scholarship players.   None have been shown the door.     So, one scholarship.  And the coaches are clearly out there kicking tires.   
   What strikes me is that the names we are hearing are almost exclusively guards.   That gibes with the notion that the staff is pleased with Hamilton's development, that they think Gold is ready to start, and that they think Owens and Parham can contribute.
  But, they have pulled surprises before, so I will sit back and watch with interest.
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Re: Point guard or big
« Reply #45 on: April 15, 2024, 03:25:14 PM »
I doubt he will change his M.O. but some adjustment given different circumstances would show some flexibility. It is never pleasant to let someone go but it is also unpleasant to sit on the bench except for minutes when the game is already decided.

As to who that should be is obvious to me at this point. I am confident, since you asked the question, you disagree which is fine.

I feel like you would have been just fine with Oso leaving after his freshman year.  What a mistake that would have been. 

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Re: Point guard or big
« Reply #46 on: April 15, 2024, 03:32:24 PM »
I doubt he will change his M.O. but some adjustment given different circumstances would show some flexibility. It is never pleasant to let someone go but it is also unpleasant to sit on the bench except for minutes when the game is already decided.

As to who that should be is obvious to me at this point. I am confident, since you asked the question, you disagree which is fine.

I'm not disagreeing with you or anyone here at all. I'm simply asking questions. Most of the posts here lead me to believe that scoopers are expecting a transfer who will be a starter so of course, someone currently on the team either has to go or be willing to come off the bench. A high-level P6 transfer is not coming to Marquette to come off the bench. If "someone should go", I think it is reasonable to expect that person to be named.






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Re: Point guard or big
« Reply #47 on: April 15, 2024, 03:46:47 PM »
How is having a stable roster a mistake?

Stable rosters are often times very good, particularly in the current climate. That it works in all situations is questionable.

I expect Shaka will get every ounce of talent out of the team he selects. I think most will agree. If he finishes in the elite 8 or above next year not only am I wrong but it will be a historical season.

I hope I am wrong.

Separately I would not drop any of our remaining starters. We lost two starters. That should be enough incentive for two to come in to fight for those positions.

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« Reply #48 on: April 15, 2024, 04:05:48 PM »
To answer the other responses.

Yes, I would not have gambled on Oso and I would have been wrong.

Concerning who I would let go, I will not respond. These are all fine young men who should not be singled out on a blog.
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Re: Point guard or big
« Reply #49 on: April 15, 2024, 04:54:55 PM »
I think the team’s biggest need is some muscle up front, so the question is whether one of the current 12 scholarship players can provide it. The coaching staff knows that a lot better than any of us do.

If so, then target a sharpshooter. If not, then find someone to come in.

 

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