2024-25 Outlook

[Herman Cain]

Now that we have the good news that Kam is returning, it appears as MU has a very solid foundation to build off as we head into 2024-25 Season.

Shaka's approach to roster building , primarily through High School Talent,  is definitely playing off. MU will be a seasoned team with experience in Big Games.

Our three Seniors Kam, Stevie and Jop all are positioned to have Excellent Senior Season.

Two Juniors, Chase and Gold have shown continuous improvement , as upper classmen they should have even more game impact.

Another Junior, Jones The Younger, should be ready to go by Conference Season and will provide that defensive spark the team missed in his absence.

Two Sophomore, Zaide and Tre, were able to experience playing in meaningful Big East games and are poised to make the Classic Freshman to Sophomore jump

Another Sophomore, Caedin spent the season practicing against Oso , and that should have him well prepared to assume some rotation minutes. Comments from his teammates indicate he will be ready. We know he is a solid passer and rebounder, which will be helpful when he does get time.

As always , My expectations' for  freshman are limited, generally it seems that one will emerge early in the rotation and a second will get some time toward the end of conference season. So the two Prospects we have coming in should make a modest contribution but it won't be something we have to rely on.

Wild Cards are Al and Transfers. Remains to be seen if Al can make a meaningful jump from non rotation freshman to sophomore. If he can make that move it is a big plus.

Shake and Staff will be looking at Portal Folks. If they can bring in a Seasoned Center that would be a plus and would not impact the roster dynamic much , as Ben could move to 4 and Jop to 3.

Used to think we need a Point Guard Transfer , but with Kam coming back, I feel very comfortable that he can run the offense well. 

Would prefer the Pre- Season Schedule to be more middle of the road, not too weak but not too tough as it would help this squad to get wins under their belt.

Big East is losing a lot of players, but I am confident a lot of quality transfers will come into the League as well . So holding our position toward top of league will be a lot of work, but achievable.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Did you miss the 7 page 'Next Season" thread right next to this one? 

[Uncle Rico]

https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=66061.150

[wadesworld]

Now that we have the good news that Kam is returning, it appears as MU has a very solid to build off as we head into 2024-25 Season.

Shaka's approach to roster building , primarily through High School Talent,  is definitely playing off. MU will be a seasoned team with experience in Big Games.

Our three Seniors Kam, Stevie and Jop all are positioned to have Excellent Senior Season.

Two Juniors, Chase and Gold have shown continuous improvement , as upper classmen they should have even more game impact.

Another Junior, Jones The Younger, should be ready to go by Conference Season and will provide that defensive spark the team missed in his absence.

Two Sophomore, Zaide and Tre, were able to experience playing in meaningful Big East games and are poised to make the Classic Freshman to Sophomore jump

Another Sophomore, Caedin spent the season practicing against Oso , and that should have him well prepared to assume some rotation minutes. Comments from his teammates indicate he will be ready. We know he is a solid passer and rebounder, which will be helpful when he does get time.

As always , My expectations' for  freshman are limited, generally it seems that one will emerge early in the rotation and a second will get some time toward the end of conference season. So the two Prospects we have coming in should make a modest contribution but it won't be something we have to rely on.

Wild Cards are Al and Transfers. Remains to be seen if Al can make a meaningful jump from non rotation freshman to sophomore. If he can make that move it is a big plus.

Shake and Staff will be looking at Portal Folks. If they can bring in a Seasoned Center that would be a plus and would not impact the roster dynamic much , as Ben could move to 4 and Jop to 3.

Used to think we need a Point Guard Transfer , but with Kam coming back, I feel very comfortable that he can run the offense well. 

Would prefer the Pre- Season Schedule to be more middle of the road, not too weak but not too tough as it would help this squad to get wins under their belt.

Big East is losing a lot of players, but I am confident a lot of quality transfers will come into the League as well . So holding our position toward top of league will be a lot of work, but achievable.

Do the capitalized first letters of random words in here have a hidden code to them?  That's the only possible thing anyone who comes to MUScoop could learn from this boilerplate post.

[Its DJOver]

I'm more and more convinced that Herman is just a bot.  The lack of ability to read threads.  The spelling errors, the random capitalization, the weird spacing. 

[Hards Alumni]

Starters:
G - Kam and Stevie and Chase
Bigs - Ben and Jop

Reserves:
G - Tre and Zaide and Sean when he returns... with a splash of DO
Bigs - Al, Cade, with a splash of Royce

Honestly, we don't NEED a portal player, but if Shaka finds someone who wants to win and play within the team system I'd be fine with it.  Need someone who buys in though.

[Don_Kojis]

Kam is better as a 2 who can catch the pass and pop.  He can play point some time.

[forgetful]

I'm more and more convinced that Herman is just a bot.  The lack of ability to read threads.  The spelling errors, the random capitalization, the weird spacing.

Well, the man did die 4-years ago.

[Viper]

Kam is better as a 2 who can catch the pass and pop.  He can play point some time.

100%. Kam at the 2? Bingo. At the 1? sure…if necessary.

[Skatastrophy]

I don't love Outlook. Gmail/Gsuite is much easier to work with than microsoft 360 bs.

[tower912]

I will stick my good neck out and say the outlook is excellent.

[Skatastrophy]

I will stick my good neck out and say the outlook is excellent.

No point guard, no center, coach is interviewing with SEC schools, no portal transfers in, our season ended early because all we do is chuck 3s. The sky is falling.

[Badgerhater]

Did you miss the 7 page 'Next Season" thread right next to this one?

In his defense, few scoop threads are still on topic after page 3.

[tower912]

In his defense, few scoop threads are still on topic after POST 3.

Fify

[Uncle Rico]

In his defense, few scoop threads are still on topic after page 3.

No, he’s just a dope

[MU82]

I'm more and more convinced that Herman is just a bot.  The lack of ability to read threads.  The spelling errors, the random capitalization, the weird spacing.

He is Not a Bot. It is ridiculous That You would Say such a Mean Thing.

[willie warrior]

Kam is better as a 2 who can catch the pass and pop.  He can play point some time.

Absolutely. He will wear down playing point.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

No he won't. Good lord.

[Uncle Rico]

No he won't. Good lord.

He’s too fat to play PG

[TSmith34, Inc.]

No, he’s just a dope

I've long posited that he is some sort of sad performance artist.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Absolutely. He will wear down playing point.

Why?

[Tyler COLEk]

Kam Jones sure seemed pretty good when thrust into the PG role for high leverage games in March with zero advance preparation. I'd maybe bet on continued improvement from the incoming Big East POY contender rather than consistently assume the worst of every player on one of the best teams in Marquette history.

[willie warrior]

Starters:
G - Kam and Stevie and Chase
Bigs - Ben and Jop

Reserves:
G - Tre and Zaide and Sean when he returns... with a splash of DO
Bigs - Al, Cade, with a splash of Royce

Honestly, we don't NEED a portal player, but if Shaka finds someone who wants to win and play within the team system I'd be fine with it.  Need someone who buys in though.

That line up is not awe inspiring. Hope the incoming recruits step up. Otherwise we are mid pack in BEast while Hurley continues to rule.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

That line up is not awe inspiring. Hope the incoming recruits step up. Otherwise we are mid pack in BEast while Hurley continues to rule.

Mid pack? Not a chance. I would guess around third.

[tower912]

What are you seeing that all of the national pundits are missing?

[Uncle Rico]

What are you seeing that all of the national pundits are missing?

You have to understand, Dung knows ball.  His posts in the game thread explaining where Marquette is lacking really help someone understand the game.

He has this stat of head-to-ass that really paints a picture of how the game should be played.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I don't love Outlook. Gmail/Gsuite is much easier to work with than microsoft 360 bs.

Youre nuts.  Outlook for life

[Herman Cain]

Starters:
G - Kam and Stevie and Chase
Bigs - Ben and Jop

Reserves:
G - Tre and Zaide and Sean when he returns... with a splash of DO
Bigs - Al, Cade, with a splash of Royce

Honestly, we don't NEED a portal player, but if Shaka finds someone who wants to win and play within the team system I'd be fine with it.  Need someone who buys in though.

The line up outlined above will be very competitive next season.

[bilsu]

The line up outlined above will be very competitive next season.

Sean Jones game was best on speed and the ability to change directions. I hope I am wrong, but I do not see him coming back from this injury.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Sean Jones game was best on speed and the ability to change directions. I hope I am wrong, but I do not see him coming back from this injury.

Thanks, doctor.

[MU82]

The line up outlined above will be very competitive next season.

But this thread is woefully behind the others on this same topic.

[willie warrior]

What are you seeing that all of the national pundits are missing?

Huge drop off at point. No floor leadership with Oso and Tyler gone. Big loss in rebounding without Oso and Kolek. Need another wing shooter.
Leadership will likely fall to stevie.

[GB Warrior]

I don't love Outlook. Gmail/Gsuite is much easier to work with than microsoft 360 bs.

Outlook desktop is trash, but despite that, Gmail ranks as the worst email user experience since I started my professional career where my company had IBM & Lotus Notes DBs

[wadesworld]

Outlook desktop is trash, but despite that, Gmail ranks as the worst email user experience since I started my professional career where my company had IBM & Lotus Notes DBs

Yup. Went from Microsoft to Google for everything, including Sheets, and it’s all awful.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Huge drop off at point. No floor leadership with Oso and Tyler gone. Big loss in rebounding without Oso and Kolek. Need another wing shooter.
Leadership will likely fall to stevie.

Discernment such as you possess is the rarest of gifts, Dung Willie

[Herman Cain]

Sean Jones game was best on speed and the ability to change directions. I hope I am wrong, but I do not see him coming back from this injury.

Potentially Shaka has Sean sit the entire year out to complete heal and strengthen. A one year PG Rental then becomes an option.

[WarriorFan]

Starters:
G - Kam and Stevie and Chase
Bigs - Ben and Jop

Reserves:
G - Tre and Zaide and Sean when he returns... with a splash of DO
Bigs - Al, Cade, with a splash of Royce

Honestly, we don't NEED a portal player, but if Shaka finds someone who wants to win and play within the team system I'd be fine with it.  Need someone who buys in though.

In this lineup the weakest link is Jop and the 4 position in general.  Someone needs to step up and be able to play D at this position (first) and then to generate some offense in spurts as Ben did this year.  Ability to attack the basket would be great.  Above the rim would be even better. 

[MuggsyB]

In this lineup the weakest link is Jop and the 4 position in general.  Someone needs to step up and be able to play D at this position (first) and then to generate some offense in spurts as Ben did this year.  Ability to attack the basket would be great.  Above the rim would be even better.

Jop defended pretty well towards the end of the season.   My concern on this roster is rebounding the ball and depth up front.  I also think Kam is more comfortable playing the 2.  The biggest question as we stand right now is whether our soph bigs will contribute and if either of our Frosh are immediate impact guys.  Both have good size.  They can help immensely as switchables but of course there is a learning curve.  If Benny and Chase bump up their production with their extended mins we could be okay.  Ross is the player I expect to a consistent ginsu knife guy on both ends of the floor.

[bilsu]

Thanks, doctor.

You do not need to be a doctor to see that Sean Jones's game depends having on solid knees.

[tower912]

Yes, being undersized with a game predicated on speed and explosiveness, Sean has a long road ahead.    I am rooting for him.   

[WellsstreetWanderer]

The line up outlined above will be very competitive next season.

I’m worried about what others may bring in from the portal.

[willie warrior]

The line up outlined above will be very competitive next season.

That lineup will not compete for a BEast title or a deep run.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

That lineup will not compete for a BEast title or a deep run.

For some, your cunning truth speaking is as hard to digest as a Mazos burger, Dung Willie

[Johnny B]

That lineup will not compete for a BEast title or a deep run.

It’s really just hoping there is significant development/improvement from multiple guys over the summer.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

It’s really just hoping there is significant development/improvement from multiple guys over the summer.

So…like most summers then.

[tower912]

I expect that the players will progress as normal.   
I hope Ben is healthy this summer.
I expect Stevie to work on his ball handling and shot.
I hope Chase can get and stay healthy.
I expect Tre and Zaide to have a better understanding.
I want Amadou and Hamilton to be stronger.
I want Sean to rehab and be supported.
I want Owens and Parham to not be overwhelmed.
I want Kam to see the floor.
I want Jop to get his shot off 10% quicker.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Definitely hope to see Chase improve at finishing at the rim (when it's not a a wide open dunk). 

Ben had a couple of nice backdoor passes later in the conference season.  Obviously I don't expect the offense to run as much through him as it did Oso (as Oso was a unicorn in that regard) but I wonder if we'll see a bit of it. 

Said it before but big leaps from both of these guys can really raise the team's ceiling. 

[Herman Cain]

I expect that the players will progress as normal.   
I hope Ben is healthy this summer.
I expect Stevie to work on his ball handling and shot.
I hope Chase can get and stay healthy.
I expect Tre and Zaide to have a better understanding.
I want Amadou and Hamilton to be stronger.
I want Sean to rehab and be supported.
I want Owens and Parham to not be overwhelmed.
I want Kam to see the floor.
I want Jop to get his shot off 10% quicker.

Having so many experienced players returning helps MU’s Cause. Older teams perform well in The Big East.

[tower912]

MU will be younger than this past season.  But there will still be plenty of continuity.

[Shooter McGavin]

Definitely hope to see Chase improve at finishing at the rim (when it's not a a wide open dunk). 

Ben had a couple of nice backdoor passes later in the conference season.  Obviously I don't expect the offense to run as much through him as it did Oso (as Oso was a unicorn in that regard) but I wonder if we'll see a bit of it. 

Said it before but big leaps from both of these guys can really raise the team's ceiling.

I agree with this analysis.

[PGsHeroes32]

I always love referencing the Sleepers media crew and some of their wild MU takes

They got a lot of podcast content so I enjoy listening to them.

Waddell newest take has MU at 8th in his preseason rankings(nice) but mostly due to his “working theory” that Kolek aftually makes us worse.

[MUbiz]

I always love referencing the Sleepers media crew and some of their wild MU takes

They got a lot of podcast content so I enjoy listening to them.

Waddell newest take has MU at 8th in his preseason rankings(nice) but mostly due to his “working theory” that Kolek aftually makes us worse.

Waddell is a Michigan State grad and a known Marquette hater. I can't listen to them.

[Hards Alumni]

Definitely hope to see Chase improve at finishing at the rim (when it's not a a wide open dunk). 

Ben had a couple of nice backdoor passes later in the conference season.  Obviously I don't expect the offense to run as much through him as it did Oso (as Oso was a unicorn in that regard) but I wonder if we'll see a bit of it. 

Said it before but big leaps from both of these guys can really raise the team's ceiling.

Yep.  Chase was actually a pretty big disappointment.  I thought he'd put it together more and be more aggressive to the hoop.  Maybe next year?

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Yep.  Chase was actually a pretty big disappointment.  I thought he'd put it together more and be more aggressive to the hoop.  Maybe next year?

Big disappointment scoring inside the arc. His outside shooting was better than I thought it would be and his defense was a thing of beauty

[Pakuni]

Yep.  Chase was actually a pretty big disappointment.  I thought he'd put it together more and be more aggressive to the hoop.  Maybe next year?

Agree, but I think the finishing will come with added strength. He's got the athleticism to finish over people, but when a defender goes straight up with him the result is too often a missed shot and no call.

[GoldenEagles03]

Royce's mom advocating for Marquette to add a 7 footer (which would potentially snatch playing time from Royce in some capacity. I think?).

https://twitter.com/ldylion52/status/1782886204934873483?t=132nYZpv1RVNyOBhIwqEdA&s=19

[Uncle Rico]

Royce's mom advocating for Marquette to add a 7 footer (which would potentially snatch playing time from Royce in some capacity. I think?).

https://twitter.com/ldylion52/status/1782886204934873483?t=132nYZpv1RVNyOBhIwqEdA&s=19

Great, another Hauser mom

[willie warrior]

Royce's mom advocating for Marquette to add a 7 footer (which would potentially snatch playing time from Royce in some capacity. I think?).

https://twitter.com/ldylion52/status/1782886204934873483?t=132nYZpv1RVNyOBhIwqEdA&s=19

She is right.

[MU82]

Great, another Hauser mom

Uh-oh. Spidey Sense is tingling.

But sure, we should get Jokic if he has eligibility left.

[Scoop Snoop]

Great, another Hauser mom

Just wait until Royce's mom rolls into Milwaukee.

Maybe Scoop can't get Shaka's attention with all the great advice we offer him, but she's not wasting any time telling that we need a 7 footer who can shoot and rebound. 

[MU82]

If she reads Scoop and values her life, she won’t ever step foot in Milwaukee.

[tower912]

She would fit right in on scoop.

[Scoop Snoop]

She would fit right in on scoop.

She will probably use the Rolls Royce hood ornament design as her avatar when she signs up.

[wadesworld]

Maybe she’s saying Royce had shot up to 7’ tall.

[Lennys Tap]

What are you seeing that all of the national pundits are missing?

To be fair the national pundits missed a whole lot about MU in Shaka’s first two seasons here.

[GoldenEagles03]

Maybe she’s saying Royce had shot up to 7’ tall.

Good point!

[Lennys Tap]

Maybe she’s saying Royce had shot up to 7’ tall.

More likely she’s had a chat with her son - who has played with Amadou and Hamilton during his visits.

[Big Papi]

More likely she’s had a chat with her son - who has played with Amadou and Hamilton during his visits.

Maybe she has an in with Onyenso.

[WellsstreetWanderer]

Maybe she’s in Serbia scouting for MU right now