IDF targets and kills food aid workers

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Cracking down could mean a number of things. Limiting campus grounds to members of the campus community (students and faculty) for instance. Or limiting the space in which a protest could be held.

[Hards Alumni]

Cracking down could mean a number of things. Limiting campus grounds to members of the campus community (students and faculty) for instance. Or limiting the space in which a protest could be held.

"You can protest where we say and when we say" never has a positive effect.  Nor does sending in National Guard and overly militarized police.

[Hidden User]

Shockin' how the elephant in the room...the blatant, rising antisemitism in this country is not only tolerated, but also accepted.
A kinder, gentler nation where hate has no home here, hey?

#bullchit

I had forgotten you think young American Jews need to "know their place". After all they have had a prominent presence in these protests.

Can we get Bill Ackman to weigh in here while we are recycling the classics?

[forgetful]

Cracking down on peaceful protests tends to accomplish the opposite of what the crackdown is intended to do. As we seem to be seeing by their rapid growth around the country.

I agree, and I think it was heavy handed, and enflamed situations. But it was within the rights of the campuses.

Same when far-right groups and/or Antifa were disrupting campuses. It was within the rights of the campus to shut things down.

All I ask for is that people apply their outrage equally in these types of situations, instead of only directing outrage when "your" side is affected.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

"You can protest where we say and when we say" never has a positive effect.  Nor does sending in National Guard and overly militarized police.

It's problematic sure, but there are a lot of problems with how the protesters are acting.

[4everwarriors]

Outstanding of Robert Kraft to end donations to Columbia for failure to protect their students. When all fails, hit 'em in the pocket book, aina?

[Hards Alumni]

Outstanding of Robert Kraft to end donations to Columbia for failure to protect their students. When all fails, hit 'em in the pocket book, aina?

Truth be told, he needed the moolah for more handys.

[Hards Alumni]

It's problematic sure, but there are a lot of problems with how the protesters are acting.

I'm sure the kind folks of Selma and Birmingham in the 60s would have agreed with you.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

I'm sure the kind folks of Selma and Birmingham in the 60s would have agreed with you.

OK, I guess you don't want a serious dialogue here.

[Hards Alumni]

OK, I guess you don't want a serious dialogue here.

I do, but I understand your POV as a school admin prevents you from having an honest dialogue. 

Protests are intended to be inconvenient.  Occupying a quad/open space on a college campus isn't even that inconvenient, nor is it dangerous enough that police need to forcibly remove the peaceful protesters.  I'm sure you can agree that there shouldn't be a blanket ban on all protests at college campuses, correct?  What about this particular situation requires the protest to be broken up?

Removing peaceful protestors typically leads to radicalization and violence.

[4everwarriors]

If this nonsense isn't dealt with now, commencement will be disrupted throughout much of the country, aina?

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

I do, but I understand your POV as a school admin prevents you from having an honest dialogue. 

Protests are intended to be inconvenient.  Occupying a quad/open space on a college campus isn't even that inconvenient, nor is it dangerous enough that police need to forcibly remove the peaceful protesters.  I'm sure you can agree that there shouldn't be a blanket ban on all protests at college campuses, correct?  What about this particular situation requires the protest to be broken up?

Removing peaceful protestors typically leads to radicalization and violence.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with protests on college campuses. However protesters should not be able to block access to buildings where students go to class and people go to work. I was under the impression, though I may be wrong, that protesters were blocking such access. If not, then I have no problem.

[Skatastrophy]

If this nonsense isn't dealt with now, commencement will be disrupted throughout much of the country, aina?

I'm glad somebody is thinking about commencement

[Hards Alumni]

There is absolutely nothing wrong with protests on college campuses. However protesters should not be able to block access to buildings where students go to class and people go to work. I was under the impression, though I may be wrong, that protesters were blocking such access. If not, then I have no problem.

If they're blocking building access that sounds like a job for campus security to handle.  If violence is involved have the police arrest the offenders blocking access. 

Yes, we agree here.

[Uncle Rico]

Speaking of antisemitism, make sure you tell Jewish people how they should vote and tell them they're not real Jews for not voting the way you tell them to

[Uncle Rico]

I'm glad somebody is thinking about commencement

What's wildly hilarious about this discussion about campuses is, the protests currently ongoing in Israel will have a far greater impact than what is happening here.

However, campus protest here are an excellent distraction from the Israel populace protesting their current government and their continuing failure that began well before October 6th.

[Pakuni]

If this nonsense isn't dealt with now, commencement will be disrupted throughout much of the country, aina?

Only drunk graduates and obnoxious families should be allowed to disrupt commencement.

[lawdog77]

Only drunk graduates and obnoxious families should be allowed to disrupt commencement.

All is fair if the commencement speaker is boring

[JWags85]

FWIW, my cousin is a post grad at Columbia and also Jewish.  His non-Jewish faculty advisor recommended he and another Jewish researcher in their lab steer clear of campus for a bit and went so far as to set them up with potential other research space in the city for the short term.  This was based on feedback he got from other faculty about the reactions to and treatment of Jewish students on and around campus.

There are plenty of peaceful protesters, but there are also plenty of hateful idiots who are shooting from the hip with a bunch of BS.

[jesmu84]

Anti-israel or anti-zionist =\= anti-Semitic

[Hards Alumni]

FWIW, my cousin is a post grad at Columbia and also Jewish.  His non-Jewish faculty advisor recommended he and another Jewish researcher in their lab steer clear of campus for a bit and went so far as to set them up with potential other research space in the city for the short term.  This was based on feedback he got from other faculty about the reactions to and treatment of Jewish students on and around campus.

There are plenty of peaceful protesters, but there are also plenty of hateful idiots who are shooting from the hip with a bunch of BS.

Strange, especially since there are also a bunch of Jewish students who are active in the protests.

[Hidden User]

FWIW, my cousin is a post grad at Columbia and also Jewish.  His non-Jewish faculty advisor recommended he and another Jewish researcher in their lab steer clear of campus for a bit and went so far as to set them up with potential other research space in the city for the short term.  This was based on feedback he got from other faculty about the reactions to and treatment of Jewish students on and around campus.

There are plenty of peaceful protesters, but there are also plenty of hateful idiots who are shooting from the hip with a bunch of BS.

There are too many bigots and bad actors who will be opportunists and try and co-opt events like these. The summer of the George Floyd protests illustrated that again and again.

It's when you leave the gates of campus where the circus has congregated, and national media people are misinterpreting those there as being part of the core on campus demonstration.

[Hards Alumni]

Reports that after the arrests last night the crowd at UT is five times larger today.

[MU82]

Speaking of antisemitism, make sure you tell Jewish people how they should vote and tell them they're not real Jews for not voting the way you tell them to

Yes, Doc's hero really built up his antisemitic points with that one ... as if kowtowing to Putin, accepting support from the Proud Boys, pumping up MTG, dining with Fuentes, and praising very fine people who were chanting "Jews will not replace us!" weren't enough.

[4everwarriors]

"Four more years...(pause). Four more years...(pause)" what a joke, hey?

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