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rocket surgeon

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on May 02, 2024, 06:01:36 AM

Huh.

well, if you are paying attention Sally, there is a group of UCLA professors and teachers(whatever) up in the balconies with signs saying they support the students(their political "off spring") and the protesters actions

in other words, they are giving out "A+'s"  and don't have to take their finals as they hopefully won't be able to now, but remember this is hamas-west
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

The Sultan

Quote from: rocket surgeon on May 02, 2024, 06:12:22 AM
well, if you are paying attention Sally, there is a group of UCLA professors and teachers(whatever) up in the balconies with signs saying they support the students(their political "off spring") and the protesters actions

in other words, they are giving out "A+'s"  and don't have to take their finals as they hopefully won't be able to now, but remember this is hamas-west

Yeah there is a lot of wrong there. Hopefully they will learn how to have empathy for those who are suffering without resorting to antisemitism and/or violence and destruction of property. If it takes the arrest of bad actors so be it.

I hope that you would feel similarly about those who committed violent acts on 1/6 and those who mislead them along the way.

My guess is you don't though.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Heisenberg

https://x.com/elicalebon/status/1785560131100618798

I can't believe I have to explain what's happening here, but here goes. Elite students of Ivy League schools have glamorized oppression so much that they have now reached role play status to satisfy their fantasies. Here, the students have appropriated the suffering of Gazans and are cosplaying as living through humanitarian crisis. In their American make-believe story where Ivy League infrastructure sets the scene, the students play Gazans and the school administration plays Israel.

Israel (the school) is blocking their "basic humanitarian aid" in this play, and if they don't receive it soon, they will "die of thirst and starvation" (appropriating exact experiences of Gazans). They also destroy upper class buildings and claim them as "liberated" while the students repeat chants in zombie-like chorus, playing the roll of "freedom fighters" destroying Israeli infrastructure and claiming them freed. If I'm alive in a world where people don't see the levels of perversion in this, I give up.

You don't see this in lower tier schools from kids of lower socio-economic standing because they aren't plagued with the guilt of privilege that they're seeking to launder through Middle East role plays of feigned suffering. This is as first world dystopia as it gets.

Meanwhile, these Ivy League students who can have much more than a glass of water and as much food as their stomachs can take are commanding the attention of the media and the entire American audience, while actual Gazans who need humanitarian aid are ignored. I still have to pinch myself that people don't see this.

lawdog77

Quote from: Not A Serious Person on May 02, 2024, 06:40:53 AM
https://x.com/elicalebon/status/1785560131100618798

I can't believe I have to explain what's happening here, but here goes. Elite students of Ivy League schools have glamorized oppression so much that they have now reached role play status to satisfy their fantasies. Here, the students have appropriated the suffering of Gazans and are cosplaying as living through humanitarian crisis. In their American make-believe story where Ivy League infrastructure sets the scene, the students play Gazans and the school administration plays Israel.

Israel (the school) is blocking their "basic humanitarian aid" in this play, and if they don't receive it soon, they will "die of thirst and starvation" (appropriating exact experiences of Gazans). They also destroy upper class buildings and claim them as "liberated" while the students repeat chants in zombie-like chorus, playing the roll of "freedom fighters" destroying Israeli infrastructure and claiming them freed. If I'm alive in a world where people don't see the levels of perversion in this, I give up.

You don't see this in lower tier schools from kids of lower socio-economic standing because they aren't plagued with the guilt of privilege that they're seeking to launder through Middle East role plays of feigned suffering. This is as first world dystopia as it gets.

Meanwhile, these Ivy League students who can have much more than a glass of water and as much food as their stomachs can take are commanding the attention of the media and the entire American audience, while actual Gazans who need humanitarian aid are ignored. I still have to pinch myself that people don't see this.
there are protests at non Ivy schools. These go relatively unreported mainly because the administrations at those schools are allowing the students to peacefully protest.

Heisenberg

Do you mean like the violent protests at UCLA this morning?

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PROTESTORS USING BEAR SPRAY AND PEPPER SPRAY ON LAPD AND CA STATE POLICE

It has been reported that Pro-Palestine Protestors are actually using chemical sprays (Pepper and Bear) to hold off the police.

Bear spray is incredibly stinging, and breathing into the chest is very painful.

In response, LAPD is using Tear Gas and Flash Bangs to push back the protestors.

Source: Fox, BBC

https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/1785990302911561951

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And this police crackdown is coming days after they were given free rein to beat Jewish students on campus.
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A young Jewish woman was beaten unconscious by a group of pro H@m@s students at the UCLA campus.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6Z44KRtDRA/

Pakuni

You guys do realize these protests at Columbia, UCLA, etc., involve well below 1% of the student population, yes?

Your efforts to paint this as an indictment of "elite universities" or the entire educational system shows how sadly desperate you are to believe and advance a narrative that doesn't exist. The reality is 99+% of the students and faculty at these schools are going about their lives mostly as normal. The protesters are no more a typical Columbia student than Tyler Kolek is a typical Marquette student.

Pakuni

Quote from: Not A Serious Person on May 02, 2024, 07:18:13 AM
Do you mean like the violent protests at UCLA this morning?

--

PROTESTORS USING BEAR SPRAY AND PEPPER SPRAY ON LAPD AND CA STATE POLICE

It has been reported that Pro-Palestine Protestors are actually using chemical sprays (Pepper and Bear) to hold off the police.

Bear spray is incredibly stinging, and breathing into the chest is very painful.

In response, LAPD is using Tear Gas and Flash Bangs to push back the protestors.

Source: Fox, BBC

https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/1785990302911561951

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And this police crackdown is coming days after they were given free rein to beat Jewish students on campus.
--

A young Jewish woman was beaten unconscious by a group of pro H@m@s students at the UCLA campus.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6Z44KRtDRA/

Oh, now it's bad to use bear spray on police? I've been told by multiple Scoopers that it's no biggie.

tower912

Arrest those who attack police and cause damage and destruction to property.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Heisenberg

#333
And let's be sure we understand who these privileged children that have been arrested for supporting Hamas ...

One could literally kill you, and Daddy would get your life reduced to $110, which Mommy will pay.

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Also cuffed and removed from the Columbia campus was Isabel Jennifer Seward, daughter of high-ranking UPS executive William J. Seward.



In 2020, at the age of 16, Isabel veered her Toyota Tacoma pickup truck across a double yellow line on US Route 7 in Charlotte, Vermont, killing Chet and Connie Hawkins, a married couple in their 70s, according to a report by the Barre Montpelier Times Argus.

She pleaded no contest to a civil traffic ticket for "driving on roadways laned for traffic" and was issued a $220 fine — which her mother paid, according to the Rutland Herald.

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And explain to me what the difference is between this and someone wearing a white hood with a sign pointing at African-Americans which says, "KKK's next target".

If you're still morally confused, it is the same. So, next fall, when the KKK starts protesting on these campuses, are we going to give them the same latitude? Should we apologize to the "unite the right" protestors in Charlotteville in 2017, as they were doing the same thing and did not get the Ivy League privileged student treatment?

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Columbia protester Isabella Guisti's family owns a $3 million, 3,000 square-foot home in Savannah, Georgia's posh South Historic District, complete with five bedrooms and bathrooms, according to Zillow.



Same kid




Heisenberg

Quote from: Pakuni on May 02, 2024, 07:18:50 AM
You guys do realize these protests at Columbia, UCLA, etc., involve well below 1% of the student population, yes?

Your efforts to paint this as an indictment of "elite universities" or the entire educational system shows how sadly desperate you are to believe and advance a narrative that doesn't exist. The reality is 99+% of the students and faculty at these schools are going about their lives mostly as normal. The protesters are no more a typical Columbia student than Tyler Kolek is a typical Marquette student.

Yes, so crush them like Charlottesville.  Why the moral ambiguity?

MU82

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on May 02, 2024, 06:23:23 AM
I hope that you would feel similarly about those who committed violent acts on 1/6 and those who mislead them along the way.

Yep. Rational people condemn violence in all of these incidents. But cultists aren't rational, nor are they self-aware. So they tsk-tsk Americans "going after their own" in these protests even as they defend and/or downplay the violent, cop-crushing coup attempt against the United States of America by armed domestic terrorists who were whipped into a frenzy by the deceitful, demented then-president.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Pakuni

Quote from: Not A Serious Person on May 02, 2024, 07:27:25 AM
Yes, so crush them like Charlottesville.  Why the moral ambiguity?

How was Charlottesville crushed, exactly?

Last I checked, the occupant of the White House hasn't called the Columbia protestors very fine people.

Heisenberg

All of this is merely practice for the main event ...

I am glad to see the Democrat Party, the party of the people, will need 7,500 soldiers again on the streets of Chicago to protect them from their constituents.

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Growing campus unrest sparks Democratic fears over Chicago convention
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4624805-growing-campus-unrest-sparks-democratic-fears-over-chicago-convention/

Protest organizers expect as many as 30,000 people to show up in Chicago to demonstrate against Israel's military action in Gaza, almost triple the number of protesters who gathered in Grant Park in August 1968.

Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker said Chicago will be prepared for the protests, but that's not much comfort to Democrats who remember Chicago Mayor Richard J. Daley vowing to keep the peace by deploying 12,000 police, 5,000 National Guardsmen and 7,500 regular army troops.

lawdog77

Quote from: tower912 on May 02, 2024, 07:22:58 AM
Arrest those who attack police and cause damage and destruction to property.
Some try to make the solution more difficult than it should be. I would also add arrest those that are using "fighting words" to incite violence, if those individuals were told to stop and refused.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Not A Serious Person on May 02, 2024, 07:33:28 AM
All of this is merely practice for the main event ...

I am glad to see the Democrat Party, the party of the people, will need 7,500 soldiers again on the streets of Chicago to protect them from their constituents.

----


Growing campus unrest sparks Democratic fears over Chicago convention
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4624805-growing-campus-unrest-sparks-democratic-fears-over-chicago-convention/

Protest organizers expect as many as 30,000 people to show up in Chicago to demonstrate against Israel's military action in Gaza, almost triple the number of protesters who gathered in Grant Park in August 1968.

Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker said Chicago will be prepared for the protests, but that's not much comfort to Democrats who remember Chicago Mayor Richard J. Daley vowing to keep the peace by deploying 12,000 police, 5,000 National Guardsmen and 7,500 regular army troops.

In Milwaukee, we're mostly worried about strip clubs being overrun and prostitutes getting worn out when the evangelical's invade for the RNC

And a rise in infectious diseases
Guster is for Lovers

The Sultan

#340
Quote from: Not A Serious Person on May 02, 2024, 06:40:53 AM
https://x.com/elicalebon/status/1785560131100618798

I can't believe I have to explain what's happening here, but here goes. Elite students of Ivy League schools have glamorized oppression so much that they have now reached role play status to satisfy their fantasies. Here, the students have appropriated the suffering of Gazans and are cosplaying as living through humanitarian crisis. In their American make-believe story where Ivy League infrastructure sets the scene, the students play Gazans and the school administration plays Israel.

Israel (the school) is blocking their "basic humanitarian aid" in this play, and if they don't receive it soon, they will "die of thirst and starvation" (appropriating exact experiences of Gazans). They also destroy upper class buildings and claim them as "liberated" while the students repeat chants in zombie-like chorus, playing the roll of "freedom fighters" destroying Israeli infrastructure and claiming them freed. If I'm alive in a world where people don't see the levels of perversion in this, I give up.

You don't see this in lower tier schools from kids of lower socio-economic standing because they aren't plagued with the guilt of privilege that they're seeking to launder through Middle East role plays of feigned suffering. This is as first world dystopia as it gets.

Meanwhile, these Ivy League students who can have much more than a glass of water and as much food as their stomachs can take are commanding the attention of the media and the entire American audience, while actual Gazans who need humanitarian aid are ignored. I still have to pinch myself that people don't see this.

Like a lot of people, you need to be online less. Go plant a garden or something.

EDIT: You are literally posting pictures of the student protestors from wealthy backgrounds on a Marquette messsage board. Think about how strange that is.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

The Sultan

Quote from: lawdog77 on May 02, 2024, 07:34:37 AM
Some try to make the solution more difficult than it should be. I would also add arrest those that are using "fighting words" to incite violence, if those individuals were told to stop and refused.

We had a very interesting meeting yesterday with our college attorney about the guidelines around protests of any sort. (There are zero protests here so this was more a thought exercise at this point.)

Keep in mind that at a private school, we don't have to allow anything. But being an educational institution, allowing protests and demonstrations can be part of the learning process. However there is a line between saying things like "Get out of Gaza" and "From the River to the Sea."

And also, while students should not be threatened or harassed, students feeling "uncomfortable" about a protest isn't necessarily a problem. Dealing with opinions different than your own is part of the educational process. You can't become resilient by living in a bubble.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Pakuni

Quote from: lawdog77 on May 02, 2024, 07:34:37 AM
Some try to make the solution more difficult than it should be. I would also add arrest those that are using "fighting words" to incite violence, if those individuals were told to stop and refused.

Could you cite some examples of the "fighting words" being spoken that quality for prosecution?

lawdog77

Quote from: Pakuni on May 02, 2024, 08:18:29 AM
Could you cite some examples of the "fighting words" being spoken that quality for prosecution?
I am not there, so I haven't heard what is being said. I am speaking hypothetically.

Heisenberg

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on May 02, 2024, 07:59:09 AM
We had a very interesting meeting yesterday with our college attorney about the guidelines around protests of any sort. (There are zero protests here so this was more a thought exercise at this point.)

Keep in mind that at a private school, we don't have to allow anything. But being an educational institution, allowing protests and demonstrations can be part of the learning process. However there is a line between saying things like "Get out of Gaza" and "From the River to the Sea."

And also, while students should not be threatened or harassed, students feeling "uncomfortable" about a protest isn't necessarily a problem. Dealing with opinions different than your own is part of the educational process. You can't become resilient by living in a bubble.

Will you apply these standards if the protestors are wearing white hoods and carrying Confederate flags?

Heisenberg

In the center of the University of Alabama are pro-Hamas protestors waving Palestinian flags. To their credit, they are harassing no one and staying in their proscribed plaza area.

On the other side of the plaza are pro-American/pro-Isereali supporters, waving American and Israeli flags. To their credit, they are harassing no one and staying in their proscribed plaza area.

In between are the police, and again, it is all peaceful.

Maybe that is because they have found common ground.  Hopefully, they can continue to coalescence around this idea, and we can move forward as a country,

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Both sides now chanting "F***" Joe Biden"

https://twitter.com/MavenNavarro1/status/1785785576571994299

The Sultan

Quote from: Not A Serious Person on May 02, 2024, 08:45:40 AM
Will you apply these standards if the protestors are wearing white hoods and carrying Confederate flags?

I should have said that protests on campus can only include current students and employees of the college. So we wouldn't allow the KKK to hold a rally here if it included non-College people.

But if we have a KKK student group, and it was limited to those students and staff, they could do that sure.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

The Sultan

Quote from: Not A Serious Person on May 02, 2024, 08:54:31 AM
In the center of the University of Alabama are pro-Hamas protestors waving Palestinian flags. To their credit, they are harassing no one and staying in their proscribed plaza area.

On the other side of the plaza are pro-American/pro-Isereali supporters, waving American and Israeli flags. To their credit, they are harassing no one and staying in their proscribed plaza area.

In between are the police, and again, it is all peaceful.

Maybe that is because they have found common ground.  Hopefully, they can continue to coalescence around this idea, and we can move forward as a country,

----


Both sides now chanting "F***" Joe Biden"

https://twitter.com/MavenNavarro1/status/1785785576571994299


OK, that made me laugh.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

4everwarriors

Quote from: Pakuni on May 02, 2024, 07:31:03 AM
How was Charlottesville crushed, exactly?

Last I checked, the occupant of the White House hasn't called the Columbia protestors very fine people.




BOTUS  has lockjaw, aina?


#"fourmoreyears...pause"
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Uncle Rico

Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 02, 2024, 08:58:42 AM



BOTUS  has lockjaw, aina?


#"fourmoreyears...pause"

Could be worse, could have narcolepsy during one of his many felony cases

#"lockhimup...for years"

Law and Order
Guster is for Lovers

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