Kolek Update

[GoFastAndWin]

To quote Saruman "Scoop knows all!"

Don't forget the effects of Impacted Cerumen on Scoop as well.

[Goose]

I hope TK can start practicing soon and sees his next live game action in the NCAA.

[PGsHeroes32]

In order to make the two line, we need to make the BET finals or Creighton would need to lose in the quarters.  I think if we lose to Creighton in the semis they get the two and we get the three.  They got why more credit beating us without our two best players than they deserved.

Both can get a 2. As both currently do in most brackets.

Need ISU and Baylor not go nuts. Kansas starting a corpse of a lineup this week won't help that tho

[WhiteTrash]

I agree with this analysis.  I also feel he should be held out of Big East tournament, even if "cleared."  End of the day more rest/restriction time from potentially strenuous twisting/contorting of the body, would seem beneficial for an injury like this.

We won a Big East regular and tourney championship last year - NCAA tournament success much more important.  Why potentially risk it  (error on the side of very conservative) for Big East tourney?

I'd like to get Adam Silver's opinion on this take.

[MU82]

In order to make the two line, we need to make the BET finals or Creighton would need to lose in the quarters.  I think if we lose to Creighton in the semis they get the two and we get the three.

Not sure that's true. I'm no expert on this stuff, though ... and, respectfully, you probably aren't either.

I agree with this analysis.  I also feel he should be held out of Big East tournament, even if "cleared."  End of the day more rest/restriction time from potentially strenuous twisting/contorting of the body, would seem beneficial for an injury like this.

We won a Big East regular and tourney championship last year - NCAA tournament success much more important.  Why potentially risk it  (error on the side of very conservative) for Big East tourney?

I lean to this way of thinking, too. Marquette's got bigger fish to fry than the Big East Tournament.

Of course, TK, Shaka and the medical staff aren't asking for our input.

[Its DJOver]

Both can get a 2. As both currently do in most brackets.

Need ISU and Baylor not go nuts. Kansas starting a corpse of a lineup this week won't help that tho

CU is the top 3 rn per bracketmatrix but agree that there are scenarios where they both get 2's, and there are scenarios where neither get a 2. 

Glad I haven't seen any of the foolishness about us dropping to a 4 recently.

[1SE]

CU is the top 3 rn per bracketmatrix but agree that there are scenarios where they both get 2's, and there are scenarios where neither get a 2. 

Glad I haven't seen any of the foolishness about us dropping to a 4 recently.

I'd be really surprised if we both got 2s unless everyone else in the running bows out early and no dark horse wins their conference tourney. Seems very much that the semi, if we both get there, will ve for a 2 seed. Mainly, I just don't see the BE holding enough cache to get a 1 and two 2s.

[THEbig0]

Expect Tyler to play this week.

[Its DJOver]

I'd be really surprised if we both got 2s unless everyone else in the running bows out early and no dark horse wins their conference tourney. Seems very much that the semi, if we both get there, will ve for a 2 seed. Mainly, I just don't see the BE holding enough cache to get a 1 and two 2s.

It would require a near perfect storm yes, but the committee doesn't (or isn't supposed to) look at conference affiliation when filling out the S-curve.

[PGsHeroes32]

Expect Tyler to play this week.

Correct

[tower912]

I have been.   

[We R Final Four]

I agree with this analysis.  I also feel he should be held out of Big East tournament, even if "cleared."  End of the day more rest/restriction time from potentially strenuous twisting/contorting of the body, would seem beneficial for an injury like this.

We won a Big East regular and tourney championship last year - NCAA tournament success much more important.  Why potentially risk it  (error on the side of very conservative) for Big East tourney?

Shaka has said....when TK gets cleared he's playing. No one is holding him out if cleared to play.

[JakeBarnes]

Expect Tyler to play this week.

oh?

[BM1090]

I'd like him to get some minutes. It can take a few games to get the team back in rhythm. Would rather do that in NYC than in the tournament.

[Jay Bee]

My intercostal muscle strain is hurting bad again. But I'm hitting the courts tonight. It's go time, for Tyler and me. #Warriors

[DoctorV]

I mentioned after Creighton won at Nova last week that I thought MU and Creighton could both end up on the 2 line as 7/8 on the S Curve.

There are two parts at play to keep an eye on here
1- Getting a 2 seed.
2- Getting Indy.

They aren't mutually exclusive, but imo it's more important to get Indy than it is to stay on the 2 line.
That said, at this point with Creighton climbing it seems highly unlikely if Marquette falls to a 3 that it still gets Indy.

Unless, as someone mentions, the committee uses judgement and sends Creighton to Memphis because it's only slightly further away than Indy.
I think it's automatically computer based though, so I'm not sure I buy this being an option. Maybe Brew can weigh in here.

So, the way I ultimately see it is that the BET has now established some additional value than it had for me a month ago.
At the very least I want Marquette to end up ahead of Creighton on the S Curve to get Indy- so that means beating Nova and Creighton losing to Providence or beating Creighton.
That would then put Marquette into the Finals, and at that point midas whale defend our crown.

As a side note- I would wager that one of Baylor, Iowa St, Duke, Kentucky wins the B12/ACC/SEC and jumps ahead of Marquette if MU doesn't win the BET (no guarantee, but I'd say it's relatively decent probability).
So, I've got Marquette as 8 on the S Curve at best if it doesn't win the BET.
So again, get Indy.

The reason I value Indy so much is because I think it'll be 2 pseudo home game type of feels for the team, and I think that's very valuable in this format to take the edge off and give some extra motivation if times get tough.
I think it's very important and would be a massive bump if we don't draw MSU again, since Kentucky is out of play in Rd2 now that they've risen on the curve. None of the other teams on the 6/7/10/11 lines would seem to put us at a disadvantage outside of maybe Madison.

[CountryRoads]

I mentioned after Creighton won at Nova last week that I thought MU and Creighton could both end up on the 2 line as 7/8 on the S Curve.

There are two parts at play to keep an eye on here
1- Getting a 2 seed.
2- Getting Indy.

Common sense says:
Creighton -> Memphis
Marquette -> Indy
Kansas -> get no preferred location

[DoctorV]

Common sense says:
Creighton -> Memphis
Marquette -> Indy
Kansas -> get no preferred location

Sure, but I don't think it's up to common sense, but I may be wrong. I think a computer software places teams at their closest site, so if Creighton 8 and MU 9 on the curve, then CU heads to Indy.
Now, they can use judgement and flip the two to benefit proximity for Marquette, but seems extremely doubtful if it affects seed line, and still likely doubtful even if it doesn't imo.

[TallTitan34]

Omaha to Memphis: 9 hr 51 min

Omaha to Indy: 8 hr 52 min

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I'm not sure Indianaopolis would be the home court advantage some think it would be. That seems like a recipe for a Michigan St or Kentucky to have a de facto home game where they likely cheer against Marquette

[Shooter McGavin]

Expect Tyler to play this week.

Me too! 

[DoctorV]

I'm not sure Indianaopolis would be the home court advantage some think it would be. That seems like a recipe for a Michigan St or Kentucky to have a de facto home game where they likely cheer against Marquette

You think they would care enough if they didn't have Marquette as a possible direct opponent?

I'd say no. Kentucky won't matter they are a 3/4 so won't be facing Marquette (Thank God)

Hopefully the committee doesn't do the MSU thing again, that would be brutal and would piss me off.

I think there is a high probability Marquette has a HEAVY showing at the game and outside of MSU would have a nice home court advantage for games 1&2 in Indy, so we disagree on this one.

[Uncle Rico]

You think they would care enough if they didn't have Marquette as a possible direct opponent?

I'd say no. Kentucky won't matter they are a 3/4 so won't be facing Marquette (Thank God)

Hopefully the committee doesn't do the MSU thing again, that would be brutal and would piss me off.

I think there is a high probability Marquette has a HEAVY showing at the game and outside of MSU would have a nice home court advantage for games 1&2 in Indy, so we disagree on this one.

I'd be curious what kind of travel there is for this Spartans team.  Also, I bet they end up on the 8-9 line.  Their metrics are great for such a mediocre record

[wadesworld]

You think they would care enough if they didn't have Marquette as a possible direct opponent?

I'd say no. Kentucky won't matter they are a 3/4 so won't be facing Marquette (Thank God)

Hopefully the committee doesn't do the MSU thing again, that would be brutal and would piss me off.

I think there is a high probability Marquette has a HEAVY showing at the game and outside of MSU would have a nice home court advantage for games 1&2 in Indy, so we disagree on this one.

Big state schools will always take up a majority of arenas. And fans will always cheer for an upset in a tight game if they have no other rooting interest.

Indy will likely have less of an advantage for MU than Omaha would.

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

Big state schools will always take up a majority of arenas. And fans will always cheer for an upset in a tight game if they have no other rooting interest.

Indy will likely have less of an advantage for MU than Omaha would.

Nebraska could be a 10, so...