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Buzz Williams
« on: February 24, 2024, 10:17:42 PM »
February 24, 2012

Twelve years ago today Buzz Williams (@TeamCoachBuzz) dances on the court to “Take Me Home, Country Roads” following #10
@MarquetteMBB rallying from a 15-point deficit to defeat West Virginia (@WVUhoops) 61-60 on February 24, 2012 #mubb
https://x.com/MUOverload/status/1761411826326073735?s=20



February 24, 2024

Got smoked at Tennessee by 35 points (86-51)
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/game/_/gameId/401597206/texas-am-tennessee
He is now 15-12 (6-8) and has lost four straight

* He bailed on MU in year six when he finished 17-15
* He bailed on VT in year five after losing in the S16, and the cupboard was bare
* He is currently in year five at Texas A&M
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Re: Buzz Williams
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2024, 10:52:16 PM »
February 24, 2012

Twelve years ago today Buzz Williams (@TeamCoachBuzz) dances on the court to “Take Me Home, Country Roads” following #10
@MarquetteMBB rallying from a 15-point deficit to defeat West Virginia (@WVUhoops) 61-60 on February 24, 2012 #mubb
https://x.com/MUOverload/status/1761411826326073735?s=20



February 24, 2024

Got smoked at Tennessee by 35 points (86-51)
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/game/_/gameId/401597206/texas-am-tennessee
He is now 15-12 (6-8) and has lost four straight

* He bailed on MU in year six when he finished 17-15
* He bailed on VT in year five after losing in the S16, and the cupboard was bare
* He is currently in year five at Texas A&M

He won't be back Heisy. 

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Re: Buzz Williams
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2024, 11:02:02 PM »
I'm very happy seeing Buzz struggle at A&M. Hard to forgive him as I believe he had an agreement with VT before our season ended. Maybe just a conspiracy of mine, but I believe he threw that Xavier game in the BET. Zero explanation for benching Burton for the last 10 minutes when he was having a career day. One of those games that has always bothered me. 

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Re: Buzz Williams
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2024, 11:37:52 PM »
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Re: Buzz Williams
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2024, 12:03:39 AM »
I'm very happy seeing Buzz struggle at A&M. Hard to forgive him as I believe he had an agreement with VT before our season ended. Maybe just a conspiracy of mine, but I believe he threw that Xavier game in the BET. Zero explanation for benching Burton for the last 10 minutes when he was having a career day. One of those games that has always bothered me.

Or....Buzz famously didn't trust freshmen and didn't give them much playing time and went with his starters down the stretch in a win or go home game.
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Re: Buzz Williams
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2024, 12:44:15 AM »
Like Crean, he had the most success at Marquette

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Re: Buzz Williams
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2024, 06:43:13 AM »
Like Crean, just another ex that I have forgiven and moved on from.
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Re: Buzz Williams
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2024, 07:36:14 AM »
Buzz crapped on Marquette and the Big East on his way out the door.
F--- 'em.

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Re: Buzz Williams
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2024, 07:51:06 AM »
It is surprising am is far and away the least successful of his three stops so far.

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Re: Buzz Williams
« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2024, 08:03:34 AM »
Texas A&M has very little basketball tradition. And while the state of Texas has a lot of talent, most of it doesn't find its way to College Station, when you have a lot of D1 schools to choose from - Houston, Baylor, Texas, etc.

Even Buzz's success at VT wasn't long or sustained. It was a S16 run that was aided by facing a 12-seed in the second round.
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Re: Buzz Williams
« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2024, 08:08:05 AM »
It is surprising am is far and away the least successful of his three stops so far.

This was probably supposed to be the year they were a top-15 type team, too.

A ton of minutes returned from last year and a lot of upperclassmen on the roster.

Some misses in recruiting.  Manny  Obaseki was A&M’s highest ever ranked recruit and he’s been middling. 

His recruiting hasn’t been great there.  Very curious what happens there.  And Sultan makes a good point, state of Texas has some good coaches within its borders.  Tough recruiting scene
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Re: Buzz Williams
« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2024, 08:28:18 AM »
F ! Buzz …

MU gave him his chance.  He did well
But also had off Ct issues.

Then he $hit on MU as he left.  Hope he fails

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Re: Buzz Williams
« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2024, 08:30:16 AM »
Buzz is a good coach with a high floor, but likely not a high ceiling. Had a number of "WTF was that?" performances throughout his career.
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Re: Buzz Williams
« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2024, 08:43:15 AM »
F ! Buzz …

MU gave him his chance.  He did well
But also had off Ct issues.

Then he $hit on MU as he left. Hope he fails

Well, when your employer quietly tells you to hit the road jack that is what disgruntled former employees do.

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Re: Buzz Williams
« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2024, 10:03:48 AM »
Texas A&M has very little basketball tradition. And while the state of Texas has a lot of talent, most of it doesn't find its way to College Station, when you have a lot of D1 schools to choose from - Houston, Baylor, Texas, etc.

Even Buzz's success at VT wasn't long or sustained. It was a S16 run that was aided by facing a 12-seed in the second round.

The previous three head coaches at A&M (Kennedy, Turgeon, Gillespie) had eight NCAAT appearances from 2005 through 2019, along with three S16s. Outside of last season, Buzz has failed to make the tournament in each of his other seasons at A&M (not counting the COVID year).  Still has zero NCAAT wins.

A&M is a football-first school, but they do put resources into basketball.  With how much better the SEC has gotten in basketball, there's little reason why A&M cannot compete with the rest of the conference.

Buzz built VT for one cycle (his final S16 team was built around his first recruiting class).  I don't think he ever planned on staying past the first cycle.  His A&M tenure has been interesting.  Something happened with McNeilly after first two seasons, leading him and some players to leave.  This past off-season, he lost a majority of the team to graduation and transfer (although kept Taylor).  Doesn't appear they have any impact freshmen coming in, so they'll need to heaviky lean into portal for reinforcements next year.

With a new AD soon coming on-board, I'd imagine Buzz will be on the hot seat next year.  If he doesn't make the tournament, they would undoubtedly look at making a change.

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Re: Buzz Williams
« Reply #16 on: February 25, 2024, 11:12:10 AM »
I'm very happy seeing Buzz struggle at A&M. Hard to forgive him as I believe he had an agreement with VT before our season ended. Maybe just a conspiracy of mine, but I believe he threw that Xavier game in the BET. Zero explanation for benching Burton for the last 10 minutes when he was having a career day. One of those games that has always bothered me.


I called out this fraud in 2011.  It was the most prescient commentary of my life.  He’s a bum.  Don’t forget, he bailed on New Orleans before doing the same to MU and VT.

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« Reply #17 on: February 25, 2024, 11:48:08 AM »


I called out this fraud in 2011.  It was the most prescient commentary of my life.  He’s a bum.  Don’t forget, he bailed on New Orleans before doing the same to MU and VT.

lol. You called him a bum cause you got too close to DJ Newbill.
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Re: Buzz Williams
« Reply #18 on: February 25, 2024, 12:00:33 PM »
February 24, 2012

Twelve years ago today Buzz Williams (@TeamCoachBuzz) dances on the court to “Take Me Home, Country Roads” following #10
@MarquetteMBB rallying from a 15-point deficit to defeat West Virginia (@WVUhoops) 61-60 on February 24, 2012 #mubb
https://x.com/MUOverload/status/1761411826326073735?s=20



February 24, 2024

Got smoked at Tennessee by 35 points (86-51)
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/game/_/gameId/401597206/texas-am-tennessee
He is now 15-12 (6-8) and has lost four straight

* He bailed on MU in year six when he finished 17-15
* He bailed on VT in year five after losing in the S16, and the cupboard was bare
* He is currently in year five at Texas A&M
#ShakaToA&M

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Re: Buzz Williams
« Reply #19 on: February 25, 2024, 12:20:05 PM »
With everything that’s happened to the program since then, it’s hard to believe this was only 12 years ago.  Feels like a distant memory.

I do remember this as a “Buzz being Buzz” type of game — multiple players suspended for the first half in an act of self-righteousness and somehow managing to pull a win out of his a$$.  IMO, this was also one of the games that cemented Crowder as a legit BE POY candidate.

Regardless of anyone’s feelings toward Buzz, him dancing on WV’s court after this win is a classic moment in MU fandom.

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Re: Buzz Williams
« Reply #20 on: February 25, 2024, 12:23:38 PM »
#ShakaToA&M

You joke, but we better buckle up for some Shaka rumors this off season. Way too many prime time, high paying, big time NIL programs will be open for him.

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Re: Buzz Williams
« Reply #21 on: February 25, 2024, 12:27:01 PM »
You joke, but we better buckle up for some Shaka rumors this off season. Way too many prime time, high paying, big time NIL programs will be open for him.

That's just the price of being a successful coach at a top 20-30 program. I am not super worried he's going to leave any time soon. I honestly wouldn't begin to worry until MU Leadership changes over because it seems he has a great working relationship with Lovell/Scholl.

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Re: Buzz Williams
« Reply #22 on: February 25, 2024, 12:28:59 PM »
That's just the price of being a successful coach at a top 20-30 program. I am not super worried he's going to leave any time soon. I honestly wouldn't begin to worry until MU Leadership changes over because it seems he has a great working relationship with Lovell/Scholl.

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Re: Buzz Williams
« Reply #23 on: February 25, 2024, 01:06:50 PM »
lol. You called him a bum cause you got too close to DJ Newbill.

Sultan, I called him out because he pulled a kid’s scholarship and left him hanging.  It had nothing to do with getting close to anyone.  It had everything to do with lack of honor and commitment.

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Re: Buzz Williams
« Reply #24 on: February 25, 2024, 01:08:30 PM »
Biggest Issue with Buzz squad this year is Wade Taylor is probably the worst player of the last 20 years that people claim to be good

Most laughable thing is hes on all the POINT GUARD lists.
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