Starting line up next year without Oso or Tyler

[Goose]

Viper

I am not selling Ben Gold.

[The Sultan]

Yes. I don't think he will be in the NBA like Goose does, but he has improved steadily since he has been here. Looking forward to see what he looks like as the primary post next year.

[Uncle Rico]

Yes. I don't think he will be in the NBA like Goose does, but he has improved steadily since he has been here. Looking forward to see what he looks like as the primary post next year.

Especially having a full off-season of strength and conditioning

[tower912]

Yes.   Especially according to Shaka who tells Ben he is more advanced than Oso was at the same stage of his career.

[The Sultan]

Oh and BTW, I have changed my opinion on Ben as this year has gone along. He has improved more than I thought he would when he looked lost at the beginning of the year.

[Viper]

Viper

I am not selling Ben Gold.

ok Goose, i'll hang in there...stock down, but we NEED him.

[Goose]

tower

While a very small snapshot, I liked when Ben brought the ball up the court yesterday. He looked very comfortable to me.

[Goose]

Viper

Not being a homer, I'm not selling this team. I think they lose 2-3 more before the tournament and then it is go time.

[We R Final Four]

Yes.   Especially according to Shaka who tells Ben he is more advanced than Oso was at the same stage of his career.

For some reason, people on here don't choose to listen to what Shaka says and they chalk it up to coach speak.

[tower912]

It is a fascinating phenomenon.   I think because he is relentlessly positive with a patient, big picture perspective that some tune him out.

[nyg]

But who really knows...Creighton, Butler, Seton Hall, St. John's, Villanova lose almost everyone. There is still DePaul and Georgetown.

You are correct, left out Uconn.  Here is a quick example of two teams, not going to list each BE team because teams like St. Johns have so many transfers, no idea as to eligibility.  But huge roster turnovers for each.

As far as MU is concerned, Kolek and Oso probably gone, Kam who knows and as in every year, someone else will leave for what they believe are greener pastures subsequent to year end interviews with coaches. Speculation talk now is fine. Not going to make a comment on any players because as usual on this board if you mention one bad thing about any MU player, you get bombarded as being anti MU.  Portal opens on March 18 thru May 1, 2024.  Can't wait to see the comings and goings.

UCONN:

Clingan to NBA
Castle, most mocks him as lottery pick, to NBA
Newton, probably drafted, played five years
Spencer, played five years.
Caraban, now in mock drafts, low end first round.  Probably gone.
That's entire starting five.

Creighton:

Kalkbrenner, probably to NBA
Schiermann, played five years
Alexander, to NBA
Ashworth, played five years
Farabello, played five years

[Vander Blue Man Group]

You are correct, left out Uconn.  Here is a quick example of two teams, not going to list each BE team because teams like St. Johns have so many transfers, no idea as to eligibility.  But huge roster turnovers for each.

As far as MU is concerned, Kolek and Oso probably gone, Kam who knows and as in every year, someone else will leave for what they believe are greener pastures subsequent to year end interviews with coaches. Speculation talk now is fine. Not going to make a comment on any players because as usual on this board if you mention one bad thing about any MU player, you get bombarded as being anti MU.  Portal opens on March 18 thru May 1, 2024.  Can't wait to see the comings and goings.

UCONN:

Clingan to NBA
Castle, most mocks him as lottery pick, to NBA
Newton, probably drafted, played five years
Spencer, played five years.
Caraban, now in mock drafts, low end first round.  Probably gone.
That's entire starting five.

Creighton:

Kalkbrenner, probably to NBA
Schiermann, played five years
Alexander, to NBA
Ashworth, played five years
Farabello, played five years

There's no reason to think Kam isn't back next season.

[nyg]

There's no reason to think Kam isn't back next season.

Figured someone would make a comment like that.  I said "who knows"

Look at #52. 

https://www.nbadraft.net/nba-mock-drafts/

[BLWarrior91]

Stevie
Kam
Chase
Ben
Jop

[Viper]

Viper

Not being a homer, I'm not selling this team. I think they lose 2-3 more before the tournament and then it is go time.

Goose, I agree. The only loss I foresee on the remaining reg season is home vs UConn. I think we get the W at Creighton and X. BE Tournament will be interesting. Hurley claims they own MSG. I think they lose. Someone gets them. In the ncaa, if we have a 2-seed, it would be a major league disappointment to not at least go Sweet 16.

[Viper]

You are correct, left out Uconn.  Here is a quick example of two teams, not going to list each BE team because teams like St. Johns have so many transfers, no idea as to eligibility.  But huge roster turnovers for each.

As far as MU is concerned, Kolek and Oso probably gone, Kam who knows and as in every year, someone else will leave for what they believe are greener pastures subsequent to year end interviews with coaches. Speculation talk now is fine. Not going to make a comment on any players because as usual on this board if you mention one bad thing about any MU player, you get bombarded as being anti MU.  Portal opens on March 18 thru May 1, 2024.  Can't wait to see the comings and goings.

UCONN:

Clingan to NBA
Castle, most mocks him as lottery pick, to NBA
Newton, probably drafted, played five years
Spencer, played five years.
Caraban, now in mock drafts, low end first round.  Probably gone.
That's entire starting five.

Creighton:

Kalkbrenner, probably to NBA
Schiermann, played five years
Alexander, to NBA
Ashworth, played five years
Farabello, played five years

...take the in-coming!! Bleed a little! The dentists on Scoop will stitch you up.

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

Transfer PG
Mitchell
Jones
Joplin
Gold

Ross 25 mpg swiss army knife off the bench

Love Stevie, Kam, and Chase but not sold on them as a unit, unless we go 4 guards for a stint.  Need a true floor general to setup Kam, Jop, and Gold.

I expect Gold to make a big jump next year.  His advanced stats indicate breakout potential. The Butler game showed what he can do.  The next step is doing it for 30 mpg, every game.

[lawdog77]

Transfer PG
Mitchell
Jones
Joplin
Gold

Ross 25 mpg swiss army knife off the bench

Love Stevie, Kam, and Chase but not sold on them as a unit, unless we go 4 guards for a stint.  Need a true floor general to setup Kam, Jop, and Gold.

I expect Gold to make a big jump next year.  His advanced stats indicate breakout potential. The Butler game showed what he can do.  The next step is doing it for 30 mpg, every game.

and Gold being 100% healthy

[We R Final Four]

Figured someone would make a comment like that.  I said "who knows"

Look at #52. 

https://www.nbadraft.net/nba-mock-drafts/

7 Kentucky players going in top 40.......

[Newsdreams]

To me, this is cinema

Barbie/Oppenheimer

[tower912]

To me, this is cinema

Comedy Sportz.

[MuMark]

It is a fascinating phenomenon.   I think because he is relentlessly positive with a patient, big picture perspective that some tune him out.

To be real......I think he is patient and positive......I also think some of the stuff  he says is a little coach speak and will not turn out to be true.

He says things for all kinds of reasons...to give confidence.....show belief .....Joplin has one more season to fulfill Shaka's prophecy of being the BE leading scorer at some point in his career........he also said recently that Norman would be an all Big East player by the time he's done at MU.........he certainly might be.......but Shaka predicting it doesn't make me feel it is preordained........

I like Ben.....I think he has improved......has shown more flashes.....I'm still not sure he is going to be able to defend as a center in the BE......we will see......can he make a big jump like Oso did between Soph and Junior year? 


In summary........I don't think everything Shaka says is coach speak......I also don't think we should take everything Shaka says about a player and believe that's how it's going to be.

Growth is not linear and it's not guaranteed.

[tower912]

I am willing to acknowledge that a lot of what Shaka says is coach speak.  And that is done with a purpose.  He has his own shorthand, his own way of expressing universal coaching truths. And he nearly always approaches with positivity.   You can tell who he is mad at and why if you listen.   He has been ticked at David, Kam, and Tyler this season after losses.
    In regards to Ben, he wants Ben to believe in himself.    Because all the tools
are there.   In Shaka speak, he needs to Ben to believe himself because that is how the team will maximize success.

[dgies9156]

Trying to guess at next year's starting line-up now is like trying to project the gender of your second child while your wife is still pregnant with the first.

There's a lot of things that have to happen before we even think about who is in line to start next year.

Please keep in mind a couple of things:

  -- Don't underestimate summer training, conditioning and work-outs. Each player after the season is given a critique and opportunity to work on his game off-season. Look, for example, at how Oso developed.
   -- Don't underestimate Caedin Hamilton either. He's already enrolled and probably getting huge coaching and development. Will he be good enough? Who knows?
   -- Finally, I'm a fan of Al Amadou. Assuming he stays and his defense improves, he will be a contributor next year. If it doesn't, hello portal!

Ultimately, I believe in Coach Shaka. He used the portal his first year and managed to get into the NCAA -- against the odds. While I suspect the Portal is not the way Coach Shaka wants to go, he knows as well as every Brother and Sister Scooper that his first job is to win -- and win big. That means the Portal will be if necessary to maintain Marquette excellence.

 

[CountryRoads]

I gotta say, doing 'research' on someone is...creepy. You were compelled to review past posts? ok...at least I post something worth the effort of a re-look.  btw, did you see an all-BE player in TK during his first year here? Of course you didn't. I'll bet no one did. Glad it worked out as it has!!  I'll go out on a limb and wager that we dont have a TK-type transformation with anyone in the 5 players mentioned.

My point was I think it's too early to tell who will be a stud next year given that if they were already a stud they wouldn't be returning. Apologies for attacking a past post of yours to make it. I'm high on the guys returning. It's ok if others aren't as high on them.