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tower912

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Stages of MU fandom
« on: February 08, 2024, 03:59:45 PM »
1.  During recruiting.   Gottahavehimohmygod.
2.  Signing day.   He could start as a freshman
3.  When actually a freshman.   He sucks.  Waste of a scholarship.   Better recruit over him.
4.  Sophomore year.   Not a star yet.   Hit the transfer portal to recruit over him
5.  Junior year.  He is starting to impress me.  Underappreciated.  Can't wait until next year.
6.  Senior year.   OMG, how will we replace him?  Next year will be a disaster.   This is all the coach's fault.

5 years later.   A legend.   MU needs to recruit more players like him.
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Re: Stages of MU fandom
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2024, 04:02:55 PM »
1.  During recruiting.   Gottahavehimohmygod.
2.  Signing day.   He could start as a freshman
3.  When actually a freshman.   He sucks.  Waste of a scholarship.   Better recruit over him.
4.  Sophomore year.   Not a star yet.   Hit the transfer portal to recruit over him
5.  Junior year.  He is starting to impress me.  Underappreciated.  Can't wait until next year.
6.  Senior year.   OMG, how will we replace him?  Next year will be a disaster.   This is all the coach's fault.

5 years later.   A legend.   MU needs to recruit more players like him.

And this is why Shaka is the unnamed coach unhappy with his current situation
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Re: Stages of MU fandom
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2024, 04:17:30 PM »
To be fair, I was in the same freshman class as the 3 amigos, and then Lazar came the next year, so I was a little spoiled and it took me a little while to learn to be patient.
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Re: Stages of MU fandom
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2024, 04:45:26 PM »
I was trying to go year by year of players who defied this by meeting or exceeding expectations and it's comical how wrong we are when we don't hate a freshman player

Defied Freshman: Duane, Haanif, Steve, Dawson Garcia, Henry, Sam, Markus, Justin, Cam, Joey, Davante

Sophomore: Vander, Justin, Sam, Markus, Cam, Stevie.

Junior: Oso Tyler Markus Sam Cam Stevie (unless you're Willie)
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Re: Stages of MU fandom
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2024, 06:53:17 PM »
I was trying to go year by year of players who defied this by meeting or exceeding expectations and it's comical how wrong we are when we don't hate a freshman player

Defied Freshman: Duane, Haanif, Steve, Dawson Garcia, Henry, Sam, Markus, Justin, Cam, Joey, Davante

Sophomore: Vander, Justin, Sam, Markus, Cam, Stevie.

Junior: Oso Tyler Markus Sam Cam Stevie (unless you're Willie)
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Re: Stages of MU fandom
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2024, 06:55:22 PM »
Kam

I was talking about Marotta but sure we can add Kam as well.
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Re: Stages of MU fandom
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2024, 06:00:11 AM »
1.  During recruiting.   Gottahavehimohmygod.
2.  Signing day.   He could start as a freshman
3.  When actually a freshman.   He sucks.  Waste of a scholarship.   Better recruit over him.
4.  Sophomore year.   Not a star yet.   Hit the transfer portal to recruit over him
5.  Junior year.  He is starting to impress me.  Underappreciated.  Can't wait until next year.
6.  Senior year.   OMG, how will we replace him?  Next year will be a disaster.   This is all the coach's fault.

5 years later.   A legend.   MU needs to recruit more players like him.

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Re: Stages of MU fandom
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2024, 06:47:34 AM »
Change it to stages of any college fandom and you are on to something.

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Re: Stages of MU fandom
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2024, 10:15:09 AM »
1.  During recruiting.   Gottahavehimohmygod.
2.  Signing day.   He could start as a freshman
3.  When actually a freshman.   He sucks.  Waste of a scholarship.   Better recruit over him.
4.  Sophomore year.   Not a star yet.   Hit the transfer portal to recruit over him
5.  Junior year.  He is starting to impress me.  Underappreciated.  Can't wait until next year.
6.  Senior year.   OMG, how will we replace him?  Next year will be a disaster.   This is all the coach's fault.

5 years later.   A legend.   MU needs to recruit more players like him.
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Re: Stages of MU fandom
« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2024, 10:56:32 AM »
Hmm...we old guys knew all of Al's recruits would impact the program be it the star or role player at some point in their career at MU.


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Re: Stages of MU fandom
« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2024, 11:01:49 AM »
A different time.   No freshmen.   No early departure.  Transfers had to sit. The only way to turn a program around in a year was the JUCO route.  It was accepted that players would progress and be better by the time they were seniors.
   
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Re: Stages of MU fandom
« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2024, 11:38:36 AM »
A different time.   No freshmen.   No early departure.  Transfers had to sit. The only way to turn a program around in a year was the JUCO route.  It was accepted that players would progress and be better by the time they were seniors.


For Al, he got 4 Juco kids that made a huge difference, no difference today, the portal,  Whitehead, Walton, Lackey
 And Boylan.  Add a few HS All-Americans and you have a team that was in the top 10 for 10 years

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Re: Stages of MU fandom
« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2024, 11:43:25 AM »
A different time.   No freshmen.   No early departure.  Transfers had to sit. The only way to turn a program around in a year was the JUCO route.  It was accepted that players would progress and be better by the time they were seniors.
 

Tell jim Chones there was no early departure.
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« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2024, 11:46:24 AM »
He made history and people are still bitter 50 years later.
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Re: Stages of MU fandom
« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2024, 11:53:26 AM »
A different time.   No freshmen.   No early departure.  Transfers had to sit. The only way to turn a program around in a year was the JUCO route.  It was accepted that players would progress and be better by the time they were seniors.
 

Definitely. Then was then. Now is now. Hell, Al tried to get out of his contract to take the Milwaukee Bucks job, and the Jesuits said no. Try forcing a coach to honor his contract today.   ?-(  Times have changed radically, first for coaches and then for players who coaches thought should be held to different standards than themselves.
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Re: Stages of MU fandom
« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2024, 11:55:27 AM »
He made history and people are still bitter 50 years later.


Yes Al could have let him play another month or so, Chones did not want to leave, money would have been there after the season

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« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2024, 01:26:26 PM »
Definitely. Then was then. Now is now. Hell, Al tried to get out of his contract to take the Milwaukee Bucks job, and the Jesuits said no. Try forcing a coach to honor his contract today.   ?-(  Times have changed radically, first for coaches and then for players who coaches thought should be held to different standards than themselves.
Pace of play was way slower most of the time
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« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2024, 01:56:46 PM »
A different time.   No freshmen.   No early departure.  Transfers had to sit. The only way to turn a program around in a year was the JUCO route.  It was accepted that players would progress and be better by the time they were seniors.
 

No doubt, but there is something to be said about the system enforcing continuity of the program. Today there are no rules. Yet Shaka is like a salmon swimming up stream trying to create continuity in a program like they did years ago. It will be interesting to see if he can succeed with that approach as many here criticize him for not going into the transfer market to fill in some missing pieces.

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« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2024, 01:59:39 PM »
Pace of play was way slower most of the time

...and we won a National Championship.

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« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2024, 02:00:37 PM »
...and we won a National Championship.

It was a different time
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« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2024, 02:13:39 PM »
...and we won a National Championship.

Ironically, one of the reasons that we won the natty was the UNC's coach love affair with his "4 corners offense", a fancy name for bringing the game to a screeching halt with a lead as long as the opponent was unable to force a turnover in the "no shot clock" era. Didn't end well for UNC vs. Marquette.

I admit that for selfish reasons, I liked the (virtually) no transfer era, but today's reality is so much fairer to a player who may fit better with another team/coach, improve his draft stock, make some NIL money, etc. I also liked the coaches being held to their contract (especially Al) but again...for selfish reasons.
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« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2024, 02:14:09 PM »
Might need to add a stage where a sophomore or junior is thrown under the bus in the suggested replacement of the freshmen who has not yet played real minutes but looked good against st. Mary's of the poor.

I do think there is a definite pattern of Shaka going after kids who haven't played a lifetime of basketball...

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Re: Stages of MU fandom
« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2024, 02:40:20 PM »
And this is why Shaka is the unnamed coach unhappy with his current situation

Is this another attempt to be funny, or is this rumor circulating?

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Re: Stages of MU fandom
« Reply #23 on: February 09, 2024, 02:55:41 PM »
Is this another attempt to be funny, or is this rumor circulating?

Trilly Donovan reporting one unexpected Big East coach is unhappy in his current situation and if Shaka has been exposed to Scoop, it’s easy to deduce he would be unhappy
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« Reply #24 on: February 09, 2024, 02:56:01 PM »
Is this another attempt to be funny, or is this rumor circulating?

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