Chicago Murders +

[Galway Eagle]

Green Bay and Dayton are urban. By definition.

And neither are "small." They are among 2% of the largest cities in the country. And even if you went by Metropolitan areas, both are in the top half - Dayton is even in the top quartile.

Weren't you calling me a dickhead earlier this week for getting hung up  on semantics? Pot meet kettle.

The broader point still remains that your dad has every right to not like cities but is not the segment they were referencing.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Weren't you calling me a dickhead earlier this week for getting hung up  on semantics?

You could have just admitted you were wrong. It would have been easier.

[Galway Eagle]

You could have just admitted you were wrong. It would have been easier.

lol never change. You have the right to lash out with hominem attacks if someone else argues semantics, but defending what's right if you do it. I respect the stubbornness, less so the logical fallacy but sticking to your guns is admirable.

[JWags85]

Galway already noted it, but there's a difference between "I prefer a day at the lake to a night on the town" and "cities are scary."
We're talking about the latter, not the former. Sounds like your dad was the former.
And people who promote the idea that cities are scary typically do it for political reasons.

I mean, I know a variety of people who don't like cities and lived in them at one time or another, so its not like they are afraid of them.  Same kind of people wouldn't like Singapore or Dubai or any other city that is largely crime free.  Its just not their vibe and some outright dislike them, beyond "oh not my thing".  The kind of people who won't clutch pearls about being robbed but will constantly mock or complain how much things cost in a city.

[Pakuni]

I mean, I know a variety of people who don't like cities and lived in them at one time or another, so its not like they are afraid of them. 

Right. And for the third (fourth?) time, those aren't the people we're talking about.

[Lennys Tap]

For many of you, I'm guessing you watch too much TV news or read too much conservative press. In Chicago, for example, what I sarcastically call the "Lovely Allison News," (Channel 5, NBC), there isn't a night that goes by where at least half, if not all but one or maybe two stories, is public safety related. Shootings, robberies, accidents or fires. I swear Natalie Martinez, their "ace" street reporter, spends her life up to her ankles in victim's blood. After awhile, that creates an impression on people, and a negative one at that. I don't think most cities' news teams are that much different.

You think that NBC news in Chicago is part of the "conservative press"? And that the NBC, CBS and ABC news teams in New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco, etc are too?

Wow.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

You think that NBC news in Chicago is part of the "conservative press"? And that the NBC, CBS and ABC news teams in New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco, etc are too?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwgJgTL5JmE

[Hards Alumni]

You think that NBC news in Chicago is part of the "conservative press"? And that the NBC, CBS and ABC news teams in New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco, etc are too?

Wow.

Reading is fundamental, Lenny.  He said watch too much TV news.  Which we all know is the baby boomer's favorite past time.

[tower912]

He only paid attention to the scary headline.

[Lennys Tap]

Reading is fundamental, Lenny.  He said watch too much TV news.  Which we all know is the baby boomer's favorite past time.

My mistake. Interesting that the conservative press and liberal TV news are pushing the same narrative.

[Pakuni]

You think that NBC news in Chicago is part of the "conservative press"? And that the NBC, CBS and ABC news teams in New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco, etc are too? 

There's a reason the local TV news cliche "if it bleeds it leads" exists.
Because it's true.
Local TV news is an entirely different beast than network news, you know?

Wow.

Transformation into Chicos is complete.

[Lennys Tap]

Transformation into Chicos is complete.

Transformation into Sultan is complete.

[Pakuni]

Transformation into Sultan is complete.

Wow. Just wow.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Wow. Just wow.

Holy sh*t! You got a compliment out of cranky ole Lenny!!!

[tower912]

It certainly isn't defamation-worthy.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

It certainly isn't defamation-worthy.

Awww...That's the nicest thing ever said about me.

[tower912]

Agreed.   Funny how that works sometimes.

[Hards Alumni]

My mistake. Interesting that the conservative press and liberal TV news are pushing the same narrative.

Not really.  Both are in the business of selling outrage.  It drives viewership and therefore ad revenue.  Television is all about business. 

[Pakuni]

Holy sh*t! You got a compliment out of cranky ole Lenny!!!

[tower912]

Bravo

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Yeah...I loled. 

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

I heard about how horrible San Francisco had become.  Then I talked to people that lived there and took a work trip. 

Within an hour I was texting my wife saying that it had been too long since we had been there.  While I'm sure there are areas still shocked by the pandemic and people on the margin struggling — the areas I visited were similar and what I fondly remembered. 

The world exists offline

[Galway Eagle]

I heard about how horrible San Francisco had become.  Then I talked to people that lived there and took a work trip. 

Within an hour I was texting my wife saying that it had been too long since we had been there.  While I'm sure there are areas still shocked by the pandemic and people on the margin struggling — the areas I visited were similar and what I fondly remembered. 

The world exists offline

I love cities all over the world of varying sizes and usually find some unique gems. However, I did not enjoy San Francisco at all. It may be skewed because we lost as a 1 seed in North Americans the first day & it was the hottest weekend on record but between naked old homeless lady shouting at me, a guy taking a dump in the view of our hotel, food I thought was subpar for price, an Irish pub covered in vomit (though that might've been the crowd the tournament brought), and the constant smell of urine and trash it was not my cup of tea.

Different strokes for different folks though

[Lennys Tap]

Holy sh*t! You got a compliment out of cranky ole Lenny!!!

Holy sh*t! Someone on Scoop is dumb (and egotistical) enough to think that anyone morphing into Sultan is a compliment!!!

[dgies9156]

You think that NBC news in Chicago is part of the "conservative press"? And that the NBC, CBS and ABC news teams in New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco, etc are too?

Wow.

Reread what I said. Look for the word "OR".


NBC and the conservative press have one thing in common: They love crime stories. Period.

Crime sells. But there is a downside to crime news — it badly influences people and is reported out of proportion to the problem.