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tower912

Quote from: MU82 on April 30, 2024, 10:43:39 AM
Agree with most of this. However ...

In Kolek and Oso, we had two of college basketball's best players at their positions in the same lineup, and Kam too. As big an optimist as I am, I don't see that happening next season, and therefore I'll go in thinking that Marquette won't be "better" in 2024-25 than we were in 2023-24.

But that doesn't mean the team won't accomplish as much or more during the course of the season or in March.
25+ wins and a return to the sweet 16 are certainly on the table.
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GoldenWarrior11

MWC Frosh of the Year and 2nd Teamer, JT Toppin (New Mexico), has entered the portal.  Avg 12.4 ppg and 9.1 rpg. 

Viper

Quote from: BCHoopster on April 30, 2024, 08:12:53 AM
I am not pessimistic about next years team, they will be good but to win championships you have to strive for greatness, not sure about that
I believe Shaka & staff strive to be great. I don't believe next season's team has the talent to be great, but I do believe they'll be very good. A top 3 or 4 BE finish and solid 3-5 seeding in the NCAA. Another S16 is definitely doable. I'd have loved a transfer-in such as the fwd Wisconsin just added. But regardless, next season we'll have a good team, for sure.
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The Sultan

Quote from: BCHoopster on April 30, 2024, 10:41:23 AM
Wrong, all 5 freshman and sophomores have potential, I am good with that. But
I like having an experienced point on campus.  Should Shaka have added another forward with Omax leaving, I think we all can say yes.

Not me.

And we have a PG already.
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MUbiz

Does anyone know if the Bryce Hopkins to portal rumors have any validity?

jfp61

Quote from: MUbiz on April 30, 2024, 12:17:24 PM
Does anyone know if the Bryce Hopkins to portal rumors have any validity?

No clue... but both him and Carter wanted to leave when Kim got there, but they were scared of the 2 time transfer rule last summer.

Juan Anderson's Mixtape

Quote from: Viper on April 30, 2024, 11:25:34 AM
I believe Shaka & staff strive to be great. I don't believe next season's team has the talent to be great, but I do believe they'll be very good. A top 3 or 4 BE finish and solid 3-5 seeding in the NCAA. Another S16 is definitely doable. I'd have loved a transfer-in such as the fwd Wisconsin just added. But regardless, next season we'll have a good team, for sure.

The forward Wisconsin just added was ranked 2,000+ in Bayesian Performance Rating according to evanmiya.com.

For comparison, Zaide Lowery was in the 1,800s.  No thanks, I'm good.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on April 30, 2024, 12:32:08 PM
The forward Wisconsin just added was ranked 2,000+ in Bayesian Performance Rating according to evanmiya.com.

For comparison, Zaide Lowery was in the 1,800s.  No thanks, I'm good.

Yeah, that guy is a bench piece, at best.  If he's getting significant minutes, they have a problem
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GoldenEagles03

Coleman Hawkins to the portal.
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brewcity77

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on April 30, 2024, 01:46:22 PM
Coleman Hawkins to the portal.

If we can only get the "good Coleman Hawkins" games, I'd take him. When he's on his game and locked in, he's awesome, but he has some serious yikes games every year.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on April 30, 2024, 12:32:08 PM
The forward Wisconsin just added was ranked 2,000+ in Bayesian Performance Rating according to evanmiya.com.

For comparison, Zaide Lowery was in the 1,800s.  No thanks, I'm good.

Amos statline against us in November:
28 minutes,  8 points,  4 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 steals, 1 block, 3 turnovers, 1 foul, 4/5 2P, 0/3 3P
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#1887
Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on April 30, 2024, 12:32:08 PM
The forward Wisconsin just added was ranked 2,000+ in Bayesian Performance Rating according to evanmiya.com.

For comparison, Zaide Lowery was in the 1,800s.  No thanks, I'm good.
I have no clue what you are referring to, nor do I care. But, let's talk next March. The guy can play. He's a good get. Hopefully doesn't have a good game vs MU. How'd Zaide do?
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Viper

Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 30, 2024, 01:53:14 PM
Amos statline against us in November:
28 minutes,  8 points,  4 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 steals, 1 block, 3 turnovers, 1 foul, 4/5 2P, 0/3 3P
2023/24...25 GP, 49.6% FG / 38.5% from 3. 13.8 pts per/5.8 rebs. Not bad #'s. 2 yrs of eligibility remain. Would you rather have this guy or a 6'8" 3-star ish freshman?
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wadesworld

Quote from: Viper on April 30, 2024, 02:01:43 PM
2023/24...25 GP, 49.6% FG / 38.5% from 3. 13.8 pts per/5.8 rebs. Not bad #'s. 2 yrs of eligibility remain. Would you rather have this guy or a 6'8" 3-star ish freshman?

Because those are all the same.

Viper

Quote from: wadesworld on April 30, 2024, 02:03:31 PM
Because those are all the same.
I don't follow. Are you arguing a point? Not arguing but making a point?
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Its DJOver

Quote from: Viper on April 30, 2024, 02:05:18 PM
I don't follow. Are you arguing a point? Not arguing but making a point?

Probably mostly a comment that "3*ish" is a huge range. Depending on the ranking service it can be anywhere from borderline top 150 to borderline top 500.  You give a range that broad you're going to have a wide range of results.
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Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 06, 2025, 06:04:29 PMthe stats bear that out, but

Viper

Quote from: Its DJOver on April 30, 2024, 02:10:24 PM
Probably mostly a comment that "3*ish" is a huge range. Depending on the ranking service it can be anywhere from borderline top 150 to borderline top 500.  You give a range that broad you're going to have a wide range of results.
got it. Thx.
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Uncle Rico

Quote from: Viper on April 30, 2024, 02:01:43 PM
2023/24...25 GP, 49.6% FG / 38.5% from 3. 13.8 pts per/5.8 rebs. Not bad #'s. 2 yrs of eligibility remain. Would you rather have this guy or a 6'8" 3-star ish freshman?

I'd rather have Owens and Parham and continue what Shaka and his staff has been doing with their players than bring in a guy from a terrible league and a terrible team that you wouldn't know squat about if he hadn't signed with Wisconsin
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Juan Anderson's Mixtape

Quote from: Viper on April 30, 2024, 01:55:28 PM
I have no clue what you are referring to, nor do I care. But, let's talk next March. The guy can play. He's a good get. Hopefully doesn't have a good game vs MU. How'd Zaide do?

Bayesian Performance Rating (BPR) is a catch-all advanced stat.  The player with the best BPR would be ranked #1.  Last year, that was Zach Edey.  #2 was Donavan Clingan, Tyler Kolek was #11.

Being ranked below 2,000 is very, very bad.  There's a reason why Northern Illinois was #308 in Kenpom.  Amos has good looking basic stats because he was one of the best players on an awful team.  He's better than an empty chair, but Gard's really scraping the bottom off the barrel.  And their transfer G from Central Arkansas is pretty much the same: sub-2,000 BPR ranking on a sub-300 team.

lawdog77

Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on April 30, 2024, 02:38:30 PM
Bayesian Performance Rating (BPR) is a catch-all advanced stat.  The player with the best BPR would be ranked #1.  Last year, that was Zach Edey.  #2 was Donavan Clingan, Tyler Kolek was #11.

Being ranked below 2,000 is very, very bad.  There's a reason why Northern Illinois was #308 in Kenpom.  Amos has good looking basic stats because he was one of the best players on an awful team.  He's better than an empty chair, but Gard's really scraping the bottom off the barrel.  And their transfer G from Central Arkansas is pretty much the same: sub-2,000 BPR ranking on a sub-300 team.
Also need to look at strength of schedule-Central Arkansas played a horrible schedule-298, and Northern Illinois was 168.

But Gard will coachem up

GoldenEagles03

Quote from: Viper on April 30, 2024, 01:55:28 PM
I have no clue what you are referring to, nor do I care. But, let's talk next March. The guy can play. He's a good get. Hopefully doesn't have a good game vs MU. How'd Zaide do?

They don't even play the same position and I'd still take Zaide.
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mugrad_89

Quote from: lawdog77 on April 30, 2024, 03:07:07 PM
Also need to look at strength of schedule-Central Arkansas played a horrible schedule-298, and Northern Illinois was 168.

But Gard will coachem up

Gard just gets it done.

MU82

Quote from: tower912 on April 30, 2024, 10:56:36 AM
25+ wins and a return to the sweet 16 are certainly on the table.

Absolutely. I said that even if we're not technically considered "better," we could accomplish as much or more.
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Herman Cain

Quote from: tower912 on April 30, 2024, 10:08:36 AM
Really, the only questions for the 24-25 team are which of the young forwards develop and how fast.   Well, and whether Sean contributes.

Starting line up is known (perhaps Tre over Chase, but I doubt it).   
6th and 7th man are known.    So far MU is miles ahead of most other schools.
8-9-10 are the questions.   

I think preseason top 15 is fair.   If 2 of the young forwards pan out, MU could be better than last season.

3 freshmen, 3 sophomores, 3 juniors, 3 seniors.   6 guards, 6 forwards.   Keep developing.
I agree with this analysis.
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