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Date/Time: Oct 31, 2024 11:30am
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Schedule for 2023-24
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WhiteTrash

Quote from: Pakuni on April 19, 2024, 07:32:42 AM
Free markets are now bad?
Let's see how the Packers, Royals and Grizzlies do in a "free market". 

MU82

Yet another thing that will ruin college sports.

Just as letting freshmen play did.

Just as giving women real opportunities did.

Just as coaches being always-free-agents did.

Just as dunking and the 3-point line and shot clock ruined college basketball.

Just as the scholarship limits ruined college football.

Just as athletes going from high school to the NBA ruined college basketball.

Just as the playoff ruined college football.

Just as 1-and-done athletes ruined college basketball.

Who knows ... maybe NIL and the transfer portal really will ruin college sports. We'll see if this time it's different.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

Hards Alumni

Quote from: WhiteTrash on April 19, 2024, 08:03:40 AM
Let's see how the Packers, Royals and Grizzlies do in a "free market".

One of these things is not like the others.

lawdog77

Quote from: Hards Alumni on April 19, 2024, 08:08:53 AM
One of these things is not like the others.
Yes, in a fight a grizly would beat a packer and a royal.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: WhiteTrash on April 19, 2024, 08:03:40 AM
Let's see how the Packers, Royals and Grizzlies do in a "free market". 

Uh...why are the Packers on this list?  Sure there was a time when they would have trouble competing, but they have one of the largest fanbases on the planet.

That being said, there were plenty of models available for the NCAA to emulate, but ignored every single one of them.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

Juan Anderson's Mixtape

Now that things have fallen through with Max L, where does Shaka look next?  Pursuing any portal guards or bigs?

Or should we expect to roll with the current roster as is?

JakeBarnes

Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on April 19, 2024, 08:11:57 AM
Now that things have fallen through with Max L, where does Shaka look next?  Pursuing any portal guards or bigs?

Or should we expect to roll with the current roster as is?

Pretty sure we're signing Rivers Cuomo
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.


Hards Alumni


Pakuni

Quote from: WhiteTrash on April 19, 2024, 08:03:40 AM
Let's see how the Packers, Royals and Grizzlies do in a "free market".

So, allow college athletes to unionize,, treat them as employees and collectively bargain with them?
OK. 

JakeBarnes

Quote from: Hards Alumni on April 19, 2024, 08:39:33 AM
Actually, Hurley.

100% was gonna go with that before I went with rivers. Well done  ;D
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.


lawdog77

Quote from: Pakuni on April 19, 2024, 08:51:23 AM
So, allow college athletes to unionize,, treat them as employees and collectively bargain with them?
OK.
Question to which I do not know the answer. If the athletes become employees, does Title IX in terms of equality in sports/scholarships go away, since there isn't a rule that there must be an equal amount of male/femal employees?

79Warrior

Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on April 19, 2024, 08:11:57 AM
Now that things have fallen through with Max L, where does Shaka look next?  Pursuing any portal guards or bigs?

Or should we expect to roll with the current roster as is?

Unless a real diamond in the rough comes along, Shaka probably rolls with the current roster. Kam returning is huge and he likely got a chunk of the NIL cash. Had Kam left, Shaka would be active in the portal.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on April 19, 2024, 08:10:44 AM
Uh...why are the Packers on this list?  Sure there was a time when they would have trouble competing, but they have one of the largest fanbases on the planet.

That being said, there were plenty of models available for the NCAA to emulate, but ignored every single one of them.
My response was to snarky remark about free markets. I did not endorse the NCAA and its decisions.

As for the Pack, I 100% guaranty that the Packers would fight tooth and nail against the MLB model. The Giants, Rams, Cowboys, Bears and Eagles would love it.

I think in the long run it would be a terrible idea to let the NFL teams go it alone. The lack of a free market in the NFL is what has made it great.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: WhiteTrash on April 19, 2024, 09:41:35 AM
My response was to snarky remark about free markets. I did not endorse the NCAA and its decisions.

As for the Pack, I 100% guaranty that the Packers would fight tooth and nail against the MLB model. The Giants, Rams, Cowboys, Bears and Eagles would love it.

I think in the long run it would be a terrible idea to let the NFL teams go it alone. The lack of a free market in the NFL is what has made it great.

I 100% guarantee you're wrong, but whatever floats your boat man.  The Packers aren't the Brewers.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: WhiteTrash on April 19, 2024, 09:41:35 AM
My response was to snarky remark about free markets. I did not endorse the NCAA and its decisions.

As for the Pack, I 100% guaranty that the Packers would fight tooth and nail against the MLB model. The Giants, Rams, Cowboys, Bears and Eagles would love it.

I think in the long run it would be a terrible idea to let the NFL teams go it alone. The lack of a free market in the NFL is what has made it great.

I doubt that that any NFL team would want the MLB model. The NFL model has made everyone way more wealthy than MLB.

That being said, the Packers would be fine with the MLB model. I don't think you understand the size and wealth of the Packer fan base. I mean...the Eagles? Are you kidding me?
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: Pakuni on April 19, 2024, 08:51:23 AM
So, allow college athletes to unionize,, treat them as employees and collectively bargain with them?
OK.
Is there really another way for this to play out? These are professional athletes playing professional sports.

JTJ3

The only transfer out there thats been reported to potentially visit now is Derin Saran.  Similar game to Maxi as a big guard, shooter.  3 years of eligibility.  Wouldnt really be recruiting over anyone by adding a bench shooter like him.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on April 19, 2024, 09:48:02 AM
I doubt that that any NFL team would want the MLB model. The NFL model has made everyone way more wealthy than MLB.

That being said, the Packers would be fine with the MLB model. I don't think you understand the size and wealth of the Packer fan base. I mean...the Eagles? Are you kidding me?
We'll never agree on this and outside of TV market size, that clearly supports my position, there is no way to quantify if the Packers would be one of the "haves". Different opinions are what make this site fun.

Seems we do agree that the "free market" concept is a bad business decision. The NFL has proven that in spades.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: WhiteTrash on April 19, 2024, 09:55:38 AM
We'll never agree on this and outside of TV market size, that clearly supports my position, there is no way to quantify if the Packers would be one of the "haves". Different opinions are what make this site fun.

Seems we do agree that the "free market" concept is a bad business decision. The NFL has proven that in spades.

Brother, I promise you don't understand this at all.  The Packers are a national brand as much as the Cowboys are.

jfp61

Quote from: WhiteTrash on April 19, 2024, 09:48:28 AM
Is there really another way for this to play out? These are professional athletes playing professional sports.

Its the way it should pan out.

Sucks for the NCAA and other college sports.

But this is what should happen

willie warrior

Quote from: 79Warrior on April 19, 2024, 09:40:09 AM
Unless a real diamond in the rough comes along, Shaka probably rolls with the current roster. Kam returning is huge and he likely got a chunk of the NIL cash. Had Kam left, Shaka would be active in the portal.
His ass should be active in portal already.
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind.

jfp61

Quote from: willie warrior on April 19, 2024, 10:08:13 AM
His ass should be active in portal already.

Yep... The only "big" money NIL school that has yet to throw around the cash is UK and thats because they just hired pope

WhiteTrash

Quote from: Hards Alumni on April 19, 2024, 10:00:41 AM
Brother, I promise you don't understand this at all.  The Packers are a national brand as much as the Cowboys are.
Agree to disagree. The main point being made is that pure free market is not ideal for sports. Regardless of the current viability of the Packers, I hope we can all agree that without the NFL's forward thinking on revenue sharing and capped salaries, the Packers would have folded or moved decades ago. And that is the main point I am making. I'd argue there is no better team to use as the poster boy of the non-free market model.

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: willie warrior on April 19, 2024, 10:08:13 AM
His ass should be active in portal already.

An insight like a leprous wolf gnawing at your genitalia, Dung Willie
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

Uncle Rico

Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.