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Viper

Quote from: WolfganghisKhan on March 04, 2024, 09:57:28 AM
It's okay to disagree with a coach on one aspect and still overall think they're doing a good/great job.
yes, but actually, no...or risk a shot across your starboard side from the church of Shaka.
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WolfganghisKhan

Quote from: Viper on March 04, 2024, 10:07:32 AM
yes, but actually, no...or risk a shot across your starboard side from the church of Shaka.
I just think not using the portal is a dumb decision in the current state of college sports. But hey, myself and most other college basketball coaches may be wrong.

We R Final Four

Quote from: WolfganghisKhan on March 04, 2024, 09:46:58 AM
Agreed! Just think we need to keep our expectation in check in regards to him. Bring in a transfer big who can play 20+ min at the BE level and let the rest sort itself out.
What? You think Shaka has s going yo ho out and get a transfer big this offseason?
The chances of that are slim to none.

Goose

Viper

I like Shaka a lot, but I wish he did use the portal. My hope was/is that he would attract guys with 2-3 years left to play, not the one year rental. I am not 100% convinced that he won't use the portal more and hope he does. I can say that while I am big of fan of Shaka, I will not hesitate one second to criticize him. To date, several times he has not managed last 10 seconds in games well, I think he missed out not getting an Omax replacement and I hope he uses the portal if/when needed.

I have zero problems with anyone getting on Shaka, provided it is well thought out. If TK is healthy in the tournament, this team needs to win some games or Shaka will take some heat. I do think if Shaka is here another ten years that MU will have plenty of chances in March, but this year is important for him and the program.

MUfan12

They didn't take one this year because there wasn't a ton of minutes available. Wrightsil was going to play, but the injury was a killer. Still dealing with the knee after another surgery this year.

Given the relative inexperience coming back/in, they'll go after a transfer. But I still think a guard is a more pressing need at this point than the frontcourt.

Juan Anderson's Mixtape

This team was head for 2nd in the BE and a 2 seed before Kolek's injury.  I'd say Shaka managed the roster just fine.

Uncle Rico

Shaka will use the portal if he has to and won't be afraid to replace players that aren't Big East players.

Shaka and his staff have earned the benefit of the doubt with regards to player talent identification and development.

It's no more complicated than that.  If Al hasn't shown the staff enough this year, he will be transferring to an appropriate place.  If he's back in '24, I trust the staff.
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WolfganghisKhan

Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 04, 2024, 10:20:56 AM
This team was head for 2nd in the BE and a 2 seed before Kolek's injury.  I'd say Shaka managed the roster just fine.
our goal before this year was Phoenix. Nothing else.

Its DJOver

Quote from: Goose on March 04, 2024, 10:19:04 AM
Viper

I like Shaka a lot, but I wish he did use the portal. My hope was/is that he would attract guys with 2-3 years left to play, not the one year rental. I am not 100% convinced that he won't use the portal more and hope he does. I can say that while I am big of fan of Shaka, I will not hesitate one second to criticize him. To date, several times he has not managed last 10 seconds in games well, I think he missed out not getting an Omax replacement and I hope he uses the portal if/when needed.

I have zero problems with anyone getting on Shaka, provided it is well thought out. If TK is healthy in the tournament, this team needs to win some games or Shaka will take some heat. I do think if Shaka is here another ten years that MU will have plenty of chances in March, but this year is important for him and the program.

This is key. 

Calling for a player to transfer when they're a true Freshman that is red-shirting to work with on their game with the team/Universities facilities when they were originally going to be in prep school during the 23-24 season is stupid.
Scoop motto:
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 06, 2025, 06:04:29 PMthe stats bear that out, but

MUfan12

Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 04, 2024, 10:20:56 AM
This team was head for 2nd in the BE and a 2 seed before Kolek's injury.  I'd say Shaka managed the roster just fine.

No kidding. This team left the top 15 for all of what, a week or two this season? Sure, they didn't hit the heights of last season but still, a fantastic season. With plenty to play for still.

Goose

The goal still is Phoenix. Am I missing something?

GoldenEagles03

Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 04, 2024, 10:20:56 AM
This team was head for 2nd in the BE and a 2 seed before Kolek's injury.  I'd say Shaka managed the roster just fine.

Isn't that still what they're headed for?
VIOLENCE!

WolfganghisKhan

Quote from: Goose on March 04, 2024, 10:26:14 AM
The goal still is Phoenix. Am I missing something?
Apparently we missed the memo.

Viper

Quote from: WolfganghisKhan on March 04, 2024, 10:10:42 AM
I just think not using the portal is a dumb decision in the current state of college sports. But hey, myself and most other college basketball coaches may be wrong.
I agree with you...I'm all for the portal...portal 'finds' helped MU to the tournament in '22.
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Viper

Quote from: Goose on March 04, 2024, 10:19:04 AM
Viper

I like Shaka a lot, but I wish he did use the portal. My hope was/is that he would attract guys with 2-3 years left to play, not the one year rental. I am not 100% convinced that he won't use the portal more and hope he does. I can say that while I am big of fan of Shaka, I will not hesitate one second to criticize him. To date, several times he has not managed last 10 seconds in games well, I think he missed out not getting an Omax replacement and I hope he uses the portal if/when needed.

I have zero problems with anyone getting on Shaka, provided it is well thought out. If TK is healthy in the tournament, this team needs to win some games or Shaka will take some heat. I do think if Shaka is here another ten years that MU will have plenty of chances in March, but this year is important for him and the program.
we are aligned. But for some on Scoop, criticism of the HC is worthy of walking the plank.
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The Sultan

I think there are plenty of reasons to criticize any head coach.

But roster construction, given Shaka's thoughts on the matter, IMO is a pretty difficult thing to criticize him for. He knows way more about how to develop and motivate a team. This isn't fantasy college basketball.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Goose on March 04, 2024, 10:26:14 AM
The goal still is Phoenix. Am I missing something?

No.  Viper and Wolfghang are seeing something that isn't there
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WolfganghisKhan

Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 04, 2024, 10:39:57 AM
No.  Viper and Wolfghang are seeing something that isn't there
people are pointing out our regular season finish this year as a reason we didn't need any transfers. We are saying that doesn't matter. That's all

Its DJOver

Quote from: Viper on March 04, 2024, 10:34:23 AM
we are aligned. But for some on Scoop, criticism of the HC is worthy of walking the plank.

Are you kidding?  Criticism of head coaches is so encouraged that it's still done decades after they've left.

Criticism for other posters occurs when people say things like "I disagree with Shaka when he says that he won't take transfers".  That criticism comes from Shaka never saying that. Despite not taking a transfer last summer, Shaka pursued some.  Even if he doesn't take a transfer this summer, I'm sure he'll be looking.  Just because a transfer doesn't happen does not mean that the coach didn't attempt to get one.
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Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 06, 2025, 06:04:29 PMthe stats bear that out, but

Uncle Rico

Quote from: WolfganghisKhan on March 04, 2024, 10:40:56 AM
people are pointing out our regular season finish this year as a reason we didn't need any transfers. We are saying that doesn't matter. That's all

If Shaka doesn't take transfers this year, we don't need transfers then
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WolfganghisKhan

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 04, 2024, 10:38:54 AM
I think there are plenty of reasons to criticize any head coach.

But roster construction, given Shaka's thoughts on the matter, IMO is a pretty difficult thing to criticize him for. He knows way more about how to develop and motivate a team. This isn't fantasy college basketball.
we're criticizing him for not using the portal. Every other top program does. People criticize Dabo for it in football and he's accomplished a lot more than Shaka can dream of.

WolfganghisKhan

Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 04, 2024, 10:42:05 AM
If Shaka doesn't take transfers this year, we don't need transfers then
LMAO

The Sultan

Quote from: WolfganghisKhan on March 04, 2024, 10:42:09 AM
we're criticizing him for not using the portal. Every other top program does. People criticize Dabo for it in football and he's accomplished a lot more than Shaka can dream of.


I don't care what other coaches do. Our successful coach has shown that he knows what he's doing.

And of course you CAN criticize him for that. Knock yourself out.
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MU82

Quote from: Viper on March 04, 2024, 10:34:23 AM
But for some on Scoop, criticism of the HC is worthy of walking the plank.

That's the case for few, if any, on Scoop.

To quote Goose: I have zero problems with anyone getting on Shaka, provided it is well thought out.

For example ...

Those who said Shaka waited too long to call a timeout Saturday during that 5-minute stretch with no play stoppages because the guys were obviously tired ... well thought out.

Those who said Shaka should take playing time from Gold and give it to Amadou because "what the heck do we have to lose" ... not well thought out.

Those who said Shaka should use the portal to add a little size or get a replacement for OMax because such a targeted signing could help areas of need ... well thought out.

Those who said Shaka should abandon the offense because we were in a shooting slump for a handful of games ... not well thought out.

No person, and certainly no coach, is beyond being criticized.

Also this:

Quote from: Its DJOver on March 04, 2024, 10:41:25 AM
Despite not taking a transfer last summer, Shaka pursued some.  Even if he doesn't take a transfer this summer, I'm sure he'll be looking.  Just because a transfer doesn't happen does not mean that the coach didn't attempt to get one.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

WolfganghisKhan

Quote from: MU82 on March 04, 2024, 10:45:08 AM
That's the case for few, if any, on Scoop.

To quote Goose: I have zero problems with anyone getting on Shaka, provided it is well thought out.

For example ...

Those who said Shaka waited too long to call a timeout Saturday during that 5-minute stretch with no play stoppages because the guys were obviously tired ... well thought out.

Those who said Shaka should take playing time from Gold and give it to Amadou because "what the heck do we have to lose" ... not well thought out.

Those who said Shaka should use the portal to add a little size or get a replacement for OMax because such a targeted signing could help areas of need ... well thought out.

Those who said Shaka should abandon the offense because we were in a shooting slump for a handful of games ... not well thought out.

No person, and certainly no coach, is beyond being criticized.

Also this:
Apparently this one is frowned upon.

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