Seton Hell

[Vander Blue Man Group]

What was his % on open jumpshots? He poured in 13 points a night and got to the basket relentlessly.

Offense is our issue with this team, not defense.

He did not get to the basket "relentlessly", Muggs.

I don't know what his % was but he wasn't a guy who was creating his own 3 point shot off the dribble. He was a solid shooter from distance. Trying to make it something else is delusional. We absolutely miss his athleticism on the wing in transition.

[tower912]

And his lock down D.   He was born to guard Richmond.   

[PointWarrior]

with the showing of first half Creighton, Providence, and SH today, "A 2 or 3 seed" is not virtually a lock

A team with losses to USC, Iowa, and Rutgers? That just got blown out by Xavier? They certainly aren't a good one. Bubble team at best, and that's including today's win.

[brewcity77]

I don't know that O-Max is the answer, but the offense is the problem. Four of our five worst adjusted offensive ratings came in the past four games (Wisconsin was the other). Last year we had 5 games all season long below 50% from two, today was our 4th such game this year and we're not even halfway through. We have a more experienced shooting team but are worse from three despite generating more open looks. The offense isn't nearly good enough to get to the heights the players talked about in September and October.

[GoldenEagles03]

A team with losses to USC, Iowa, and Rutgers? That just got blown out by Xavier? They certainly aren't a good one. Bubble team at best, and that's including today's win.

FAU is coming off a Final Four and has a Big win against Arizona.

They are losing to Charlotte and already have losses to Bryant and FGCU. Are they also a bad team?

[brewcity77]

FAU is coming off a Final Four and has a Big win against Arizona.

They are losing to Charlotte and already have losses to Bryant and FGCU. Are they also a bad team?

They're better than SHU, but probably a middle-seed NCAA team. Somewhere in the 5-7 range.

[PointWarrior]

Not a great team or a 5th ranked team to start the season like MU.

FAU is coming off a Final Four and has a Big win against Arizona.

They are losing to Charlotte and already have losses to Bryant and FGCU. Are they also a bad team?

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Over the last 4 games, Kam is 7-32 from 3.  Honestly, from what I can recall, most of those were really good shots.  He's got to find and it soon.  We're simply not the same team when he's not making shots. 

Tyler disappeared today.  He's not a machine so these things happen and I would expect a big bounce back on Wednesday. 

[We R Final Four]

Early season losses to a team full of transfers is not that surprising. As your team starts to gel, you beat teams Uconn, MU and PC.

[tower912]

Over the last 4 games, Kam is 7-32 from 3.  Honestly, from what I can recall, most of those were really good shots.  He's got to find and it soon.  We're simply not the same team when he's not making shots. 

Tyler disappeared today.  He's not a machine so these things happen and I would expect a big bounce back on Wednesday.

Those two things are probably the biggest factors. 

[Goose]

panda

Of course Omax is missed and I agree with you. Just think it is funny that roughly a year ago MU played at SH and the announcers stated that a good number of NBA scouts were at the game to watch Omax and much of scoop got a big laugh out it. Now he is missed.

I said last May that I believed that if Omax was not replaced that Shaka did not believe they were a bonafide contender. I will say now, Omax should have been replaced, but seeing the ceiling of this team I still think they are a contender. Basically, Shaka could end up being right.

[tower912]

You are not wrong about the perception of Omax a season ago.    Comically underappreciated.     When he went in the portal and stayed, I said something like....paraphrasing.....
What is going to get him drafted is what MU is going to miss next year.   

[brewcity77]

You are not wrong about the perception of Omax a season ago.    Comically underappreciated.     When he went in the portal draft and stayed, I said something like....paraphrasing.....
What is going to get him drafted is what MU is going to miss next year.   

[tower912]

Ahhhhhhhh, shite.     Wait, he transferred to the NBA.    Yeah!    That's it!

[Elonsmusk]

A team with losses to USC, Iowa, and Rutgers? That just got blown out by Xavier? They certainly aren't a good one. Bubble team at best, and that's including today's win.

Seton Hall player their A+ game today.  Sometimes you just get beat, and that was today's story.  So what if they just got blown out by Xavier?  They just blew out UCONN by 15 at home too.

[panda]

panda

Of course Omax is missed and I agree with you. Just think it is funny that roughly a year ago MU played at SH and the announcers stated that a good number of NBA scouts were at the game to watch Omax and much of scoop got a big laugh out it. Now he is missed.

I said last May that I believed that if Omax was not replaced that Shaka did not believe they were a bonafide contender. I will say now, Omax should have been replaced, but seeing the ceiling of this team I still think they are a contender. Basically, Shaka could end up being right.

We lose a player and don't replace him with a similar skill set. Offense sputters for the reasons I mentioned above. I thought the combo of Joplin's shooting/Ross' potential to be a direct replacement would add a different dynamic, but it's simply put more stress on Kolek/jones/oso who have not made up for the loss.

This team needs to figure out a more consistent way to score if they're going to win games on the road and it's not going to be volume 3's.

[PointWarrior]

Seton Hall, Providence, and Wisconsin all had their A games...   what's the common factor?

Seton Hall player their A+ game today.  Sometimes you just get beat, and that was today's story.  So what if they just got blown out by Xavier?  They just blew out UCONN by 15 at home too.

[Dr. Blackheart]

Can't shoot. Late on close outs. Soft on the boards. Tyler only going left into the gap containment. Adjust or die.

Now, just one Big East loss away from matching all of last season. The opposing coaches have adapted. Time for Shaka to counter as to keep doing what you are doing while expecting different results is maddening and insanity.

[Elonsmusk]

Seton Hall, Providence, and Wisconsin all had their A games...   what's the common factor?

I feel our shooting will come around - the bigger issue is these teams have neutralized Kolek as noted in the bolded below.  That being said, its tough to win on the road in the Big East and Seton Hall played REALLY well today, including a few circus shots that went in, Dawes shooting well above his averages and their 2 non-factor freshman kicking in 10 points on 5 of 5 shooting.

Can't shoot. Late on close outs. Soft on the boards. Tyler only going left into the gap containment. Adjust or die.

Now, just one Big East loss away from matching all of last season. The opposing coaches have adapted. Time for Shaka to counter as to keep doing what you are doing while expecting different results is maddening and insanity.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Ahhhhhhhh, crape.     Wait, he transferred to the NBA.    Yeah!    That's it!

Dallas offered pretty good NIL money

[Daniel]

Our offense this year is consistently inconsistent.   And that is why we lost the games we lost.   It is not fixed yet.  until it is, we are going to have these kinds of games.

And Kolek has more pressure on h8m... our 2 point % is down because teams have cut off the Oso/ Kolek p and r, and they are jamming the passing lanes so each pass Kolek makes this year is harder.    Now . . . What do we do about it?   That we will see. . .

[mileskishnish72]

12. Subbing out our starters while they're rolling up 10

Today, you're right but it has been working. Have to admit, Shaka has a lot of good points but he has not demonstrated that he is a great in-game coach.

[NickelDimer]

Seton Hall, Providence, and Wisconsin all had their A games...   what's the common factor?

Your panic game is strong in this thread

[Newsdreams]

I feel our shooting will come around - the bigger issue is these teams have neutralized Kolek as noted in the bolded below.  That being said, its tough to win on the road in the Big East and Seton Hall played REALLY well today, including a few circus shots that went in, Dawes shooting well above his averages and their 2 non-factor freshman kicking in 10 points on 5 of 5 shooting.

I wouldn't call 22 TOs playing really well, but to each their own. As a coach I would be upset with 22 TOs

[Daniel]

The good thing is Stevie and Sean were each 100% on 3s today!