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MU82

Quote from: rocket surgeon on January 20, 2024, 06:29:42 PM
for some reason, this country has become way to lax on filling our prisons back up with bad people who cannot function safely within our society

Agree. It's sad that your cult leader is vowing to pardon hundreds of violent insurrectionists, seditionists, terrorists and other bad people who tried to overthrow the government, wounding well over 100 police officers in the process. 
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

lawdog77

Quote from: wadesworld on January 20, 2024, 06:38:23 PM
They didn't release the Louisville shooter's manifesto either. What's the conspiracy behind that one?

Manifestos are usually released years later if at all, and heavily redacted.
Part of the problem (not the main problem, of course) IMO, is calling these writings manifestos, and then sensationalizing these writings. Let the professionals (behavioralists, psychiatrists, etc) dissect them. Genpop doesn't need to be waiting with baited breath to see these. I feel giving these writings that much power may push some people to write these and then conduct such heinous acts. Granted, this is way down on the list (more powerful red flag laws, better enforcement etc).

MU82

Quote from: rocket surgeon on January 19, 2024, 11:04:19 AM
we could start by enforcing the laws we have on the books

Or we could stop changing laws to protect our rich friends.

https://www.levernews.com/will-biden-rescind-trumps-boeing-immunity-deal/?campaign_id=4&emc=edit_dk_20240125&instance_id=113422&nl=dealbook&regi_id=108420427&segment_id=156280&te=1&user_id=d36dcf821462fdd16ec3636710a855fa

Allegations of fraud in a recent federal lawsuit — if substantiated — could empower President Biden's Justice Department to rescind a controversial deferred prosecution agreement granted to Boeing by Donald Trump's administration and blessed by an archconservative judge in the wake of two 737 Max crashes, according to experts interviewed by The Lever.

The deal, which has long been criticized by crash victims' families and recently challenged in court by air safety advocates, allowed Boeing to avoid criminal prosecution on fraud charges and shielded Boeing's senior executives from such prosecution as well.

The agreement — which was announced just days before Trump left office — was emblematic of the Republican administration at once billing itself as a defender of "law and order" but overseeing a record reduction in overall corporate prosecutions and a continuation of the use of leniency deals allowing companies and executives to avoid sanctions.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

withoutbias

Quote from: MU82 on January 25, 2024, 08:32:05 AM
Or we could stop changing laws to protect our rich friends.

https://www.levernews.com/will-biden-rescind-trumps-boeing-immunity-deal/?campaign_id=4&emc=edit_dk_20240125&instance_id=113422&nl=dealbook&regi_id=108420427&segment_id=156280&te=1&user_id=d36dcf821462fdd16ec3636710a855fa

Allegations of fraud in a recent federal lawsuit — if substantiated — could empower President Biden's Justice Department to rescind a controversial deferred prosecution agreement granted to Boeing by Donald Trump's administration and blessed by an archconservative judge in the wake of two 737 Max crashes, according to experts interviewed by The Lever.

The deal, which has long been criticized by crash victims' families and recently challenged in court by air safety advocates, allowed Boeing to avoid criminal prosecution on fraud charges and shielded Boeing's senior executives from such prosecution as well.

The agreement — which was announced just days before Trump left office — was emblematic of the Republican administration at once billing itself as a defender of "law and order" but overseeing a record reduction in overall corporate prosecutions and a continuation of the use of leniency deals allowing companies and executives to avoid sanctions.


Very relevant to the topic at hand.

tower912

Jennifer Crumbley found guilty of involuntary manslaughter in the Oxford shooting.   

I don't like this.

Clearly not a mother of the year type.  But this sets a scary precedent.

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: tower912 on February 06, 2024, 01:33:33 PM
Jennifer Crumbley found guilty of involuntary manslaughter in the Oxford shooting.   

I don't like this.

Clearly not a mother of the year type.  But this sets a scary precedent.

Didn't they reject a bag search and refuse to take him home? I think there was enough there
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

tower912

Yes.   And the jury agrees with you.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

wadesworld

Quote from: Galway Eagle on February 06, 2024, 01:44:15 PM
Didn't they reject a bag search and refuse to take him home? I think there was enough there

Plus bought their son who had a history of killing animals, hallucinations, thoughts of kidnapping and hurting classmates, etc. a gun for his 15th birthday.

Obviously not every parent of a mass shooter is responsible for their child's actions.  But these parents definitely helped make this a possibility.

MU82

It was a fair and just verdict, and we need more parent-accountability laws when it comes to guns.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Pakuni

Quote from: tower912 on February 06, 2024, 01:33:33 PM
Jennifer Crumbley found guilty of involuntary manslaughter in the Oxford shooting.   

I don't like this.

Clearly not a mother of the year type.  But this sets a scary precedent.

It's not really precedent, though. It's no different than a parent being held criminally liable if they give a kid alcohol and car keys, then the kid goes and hurts or kills someone on the road.

WellsstreetWanderer

Quote from: MU82 on January 20, 2024, 11:30:09 PM
Agree. It's sad that your cult leader is vowing to pardon hundreds of violent insurrectionists, seditionists, terrorists and other bad people who tried to overthrow the government, wounding well over 100 police officers in the process.

  This is Russian dossier redo   No such thing as 100 policemen injured and I watched real time the capitol police escorting people throughout the Capitol building . One group was led by a cop who walked ahead and repeatedly stopped and turned back to wait for the group. Further my "lying eyes" saw groups walking through the hall of statues ALL staying between the velvet ropes. I was amazed that normally locked doors had been left open and continued watching the broadcasts to try and figure out what was going on. I hope that the truth of what was going on comes out no matter the consequences and it is disappointing that the Jan.6th Committee destroyed all their "findings"  to hinder that end.

TSmith34, Inc.

If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on February 06, 2024, 04:24:27 PM
  This is Russian dossier redo   No such thing as 100 policemen injured and I watched real time the capitol police escorting people throughout the Capitol building . One group was led by a cop who walked ahead and repeatedly stopped and turned back to wait for the group. Further my "lying eyes" saw groups walking through the hall of statues ALL staying between the velvet ropes. I was amazed that normally locked doors had been left open and continued watching the broadcasts to try and figure out what was going on. I hope that the truth of what was going on comes out no matter the consequences and it is disappointing that the Jan.6th Committee destroyed all their "findings"  to hinder that end.

Bravo
Guster is for Lovers

wadesworld

Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on February 06, 2024, 04:24:27 PM
  This is Russian dossier redo   No such thing as 100 policemen injured and I watched real time the capitol police escorting people throughout the Capitol building . One group was led by a cop who walked ahead and repeatedly stopped and turned back to wait for the group. Further my "lying eyes" saw groups walking through the hall of statues ALL staying between the velvet ropes. I was amazed that normally locked doors had been left open and continued watching the broadcasts to try and figure out what was going on. I hope that the truth of what was going on comes out no matter the consequences and it is disappointing that the Jan.6th Committee destroyed all their "findings"  to hinder that end.

Yeah for sure, definitely just a peaceful protest led by the police themselves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMdCKr1SjXo

There was one police officer who led the violent mob down a hallway so that they would not go down a hallway with government officials in it, so there's that at least.

Pakuni

Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on February 06, 2024, 04:24:27 PM
  This is Russian dossier redo   No such thing as 100 policemen injured and I watched real time the capitol police escorting people throughout the Capitol building . One group was led by a cop who walked ahead and repeatedly stopped and turned back to wait for the group. Further my "lying eyes" saw groups walking through the hall of statues ALL staying between the velvet ropes. I was amazed that normally locked doors had been left open and continued watching the broadcasts to try and figure out what was going on. I hope that the truth of what was going on comes out no matter the consequences and it is disappointing that the Jan.6th Committee destroyed all their "findings"  to hinder that end.

The Aristocrats!

cheebs09

Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on February 06, 2024, 04:24:27 PM
  This is Russian dossier redo   No such thing as 100 policemen injured and I watched real time the capitol police escorting people throughout the Capitol building . One group was led by a cop who walked ahead and repeatedly stopped and turned back to wait for the group. Further my "lying eyes" saw groups walking through the hall of statues ALL staying between the velvet ropes. I was amazed that normally locked doors had been left open and continued watching the broadcasts to try and figure out what was going on. I hope that the truth of what was going on comes out no matter the consequences and it is disappointing that the Jan.6th Committee destroyed all their "findings"  to hinder that end.


......were you there?

The Sultan

"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

ATL MU Warrior

Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on February 06, 2024, 04:24:27 PM
  This is Russian dossier redo   No such thing as 100 policemen injured and I watched real time the capitol police escorting people throughout the Capitol building . One group was led by a cop who walked ahead and repeatedly stopped and turned back to wait for the group. Further my "lying eyes" saw groups walking through the hall of statues ALL staying between the velvet ropes. I was amazed that normally locked doors had been left open and continued watching the broadcasts to try and figure out what was going on. I hope that the truth of what was going on comes out no matter the consequences and it is disappointing that the Jan.6th Committee destroyed all their "findings"  to hinder that end.
This country is doomed

MU82

#93
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on February 06, 2024, 04:24:27 PM
  This is Russian dossier redo   No such thing as 100 policemen injured and I watched real time the capitol police escorting people throughout the Capitol building . One group was led by a cop who walked ahead and repeatedly stopped and turned back to wait for the group. Further my "lying eyes" saw groups walking through the hall of statues ALL staying between the velvet ropes. I was amazed that normally locked doors had been left open and continued watching the broadcasts to try and figure out what was going on. I hope that the truth of what was going on comes out no matter the consequences and it is disappointing that the Jan.6th Committee destroyed all their "findings"  to hinder that end.

Then, after that, your make-believe cop led everybody to the pretend site where the Newtown kids weren't really gunned down.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

TSmith34, Inc.

If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

tower912

I take heart that liars are being caught and are being forced to pay out big sums for their lies.   I am disheartened by the people who still enthusiastically believe the liars.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

NCMUFan

Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 06, 2024, 06:00:20 PM
This country is doomed
No way.
Not with our leadership that only gets better with age.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: NCMUFan on February 07, 2024, 12:33:33 PM
No way.
Not with our leadership that only gets better with age.

I know it'll never happen, but who's opposed to age limits at this point? 
Guster is for Lovers

JWags85

Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 07, 2024, 12:37:42 PM
I know it'll never happen, but who's opposed to age limits at this point?

The geriatrics still in power, and those right behind them that have been promised ascension when the geriatrics eventually pass on.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: JWags85 on February 07, 2024, 12:44:26 PM
The geriatrics still in power, and those right behind them that have been promised ascension when the geriatrics eventually pass on.

A classic liberal society would be appalled at that notion, alas
Guster is for Lovers

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