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Author Topic: Thoughts and prayers in Perry, Iowa  (Read 5170 times)

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Re: Thoughts and prayers in Perry, Iowa
« Reply #25 on: January 05, 2024, 10:43:13 PM »
Who could ever forget the way d-bag Stephen Paddock killed dozens of people with his guitar in Las Vegas or racist Dylann Roof killed 9 Black churchgoers in Charleston with his lighter.
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Re: Thoughts and prayers in Perry, Iowa
« Reply #26 on: January 07, 2024, 09:57:50 AM »
   those damn guns again?  the minute ya turn around, they just start heading for the gun free zones and start shooting

any studies on early hormone therapy and predilection to violence

Wait? What?  This is a thing?  How many of the mass shooting suspects were in early hormone therapy?  I need to see this.  Can you share now?


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Re: Thoughts and prayers in Perry, Iowa
« Reply #27 on: January 07, 2024, 10:30:00 AM »
Wait? What?  This is a thing?  How many of the mass shooting suspects were in early hormone therapy?  I need to see this.  Can you share now?

The Gun Violence Archive, which began collecting data on gun violence in the U.S. in 2013 recorded more than 4,400 mass shootings in the last decade, Executive Director Mark Bryant told Reuters via email. Its definition of mass shooting is four or more people shot resulting in injury or death (excluding the perpetrator).
Of those, “the number of known suspects in mass shootings which are trans is under 10 for the last decade,” which translated to “1:880 [or 0.11%] of the 4,400 shootings” they recorded, he said.


https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N363273/

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Re: Thoughts and prayers in Perry, Iowa
« Reply #28 on: January 07, 2024, 11:43:23 AM »
Get over it!

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Re: Thoughts and prayers in Perry, Iowa
« Reply #29 on: January 07, 2024, 12:05:14 PM »
The Gun Violence Archive, which began collecting data on gun violence in the U.S. in 2013 recorded more than 4,400 mass shootings in the last decade, Executive Director Mark Bryant told Reuters via email. Its definition of mass shooting is four or more people shot resulting in injury or death (excluding the perpetrator).
Of those, “the number of known suspects in mass shootings which are trans is under 10 for the last decade,” which translated to “1:880 [or 0.11%] of the 4,400 shootings” they recorded, he said.


https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N363273/

So what you're saying is that most of these shooters are transgender people. Thanks for confirming roQQet's in-depth research.
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Re: Thoughts and prayers in Perry, Iowa
« Reply #30 on: January 07, 2024, 03:23:00 PM »
Wait? What?  This is a thing?  How many of the mass shooting suspects were in early hormone therapy?  I need to see this.  Can you share now?
That study is coming out after the proof Ivermectin works against COVID. You just have to be patient.
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Re: Thoughts and prayers in Perry, Iowa
« Reply #31 on: January 11, 2024, 09:59:26 AM »
Maine authorities were warned that Robert Card was highly unstable, but they did nothing - including anything that would have limited Card's access to guns - and 6 weeks later Card killed 18 people at a bowling alley in the worst mass-shooting in state history.

https://apnews.com/article/lewiston-maine-shooting-warning-signs-robert-card-e154aac79b4f9d42a5381c20cd6618dd?user_email=6647dfa7189f748384d7389910f7b584c6fcfc35ae990102964c7e826d4175c7&utm_medium=Morning_Wire&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_campaign=Morning%20Wire%20Official_11%20Jan_2024&utm_term=Morning%20Wire%20Subscribers

LEWISTON, Maine (AP) — Sean Hodgson watched and worried as his best friend of nearly two decades unraveled. His former roommate and fellow U.S. Army reservist’s anger and paranoia were mounting, he had access to guns, and he refused to get help. So Hodgson did the hardest thing of his life: He sent a text about Robert Card to their Army supervisor.

“I believe he’s going to snap and do a mass shooting,” he wrote on Sept. 15.

Six weeks later, Card fatally shot 18 people at a bowling alley and a bar in Lewiston before killing himself. His body was found in a trailer after a two-day search and regionwide lockdown.

“I wasn’t in his head. I don’t know exactly what went on,” Hodgson told The Associated Press last week in an exclusive interview, his first since the Oct. 25 shootings. “But I do know I was right.”

The series of warning signs about Card have been well documented. In May, relatives warned police that Card had grown paranoid, and they expressed concern about his access to guns. In July, Card was hospitalized in a psychiatric unit for two weeks after shoving a fellow reservist and locking himself in a motel room. In August, the Army barred him from handling weapons while on duty and declared him nondeployable.

And in September, Hodgson raised the most glaring red flag, telling authorities to change the passcode to the gate at their Army Reserve training facility and arm themselves if Card showed up.

“Please,” he wrote. “I believe he’s messed up in the head.”

But authorities declined to confront Card — the clearest example of the missed opportunities to intervene and prevent the deadliest shooting in state history. That’s hard to swallow for Hodgson, who’s pushing back against an independent report for law enforcement that described him as “over the top” and “alarmist.”

“I did my job, and I went over and beyond it, and I literally spelled it out for them,” said Hodgson, 43, referred to by only his last name in documents related to the case. “I don’t know how clear I could have gotten.”

Hodgson’s account, taken together with law enforcement documents, videos and other interviews, provides the most comprehensive picture to date of potential missteps leading up to the attack.

In replying to AP’s questions about the investigation and Hodgson’s warning, the Army Reserve said in a statement this week that no one should jump to conclusions until its own investigation and an independent probe by the Army inspector general are finalized.


So these shootings are a "mental health issue," right? OK ... then effen do something when a person's mental health is clearly an issue. Don't shrug and let the mentally ill person have his way with as many guns as he wants.

Or ...

Admit that everybody (including mentally ill people) having unlimited and incredibly easy access to guns is more important than "all lives matter." You can't have it both ways.
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Re: Thoughts and prayers in Perry, Iowa
« Reply #32 on: January 11, 2024, 05:24:14 PM »
Seems like more and more this is coming back onto failings of law enforcement/authorities. You can’t have a hands off approach to wellness checks on an armed population. Or, maybe you can I guess and just shrug at mass shootings.

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Re: Thoughts and prayers in Perry, Iowa
« Reply #33 on: January 11, 2024, 05:39:13 PM »
Seems like more and more this is coming back onto failings of law enforcement/authorities. You can’t have a hands off approach to wellness checks on an armed population. Or, maybe you can I guess and just shrug at mass shootings.

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Re: Thoughts and prayers in Perry, Iowa
« Reply #34 on: January 11, 2024, 06:25:29 PM »
Seems like more and more this is coming back onto failings of law enforcement/authorities. You can’t have a hands off approach to wellness checks on an armed population. Or, maybe you can I guess and just shrug at mass shootings.


Cops (and courts) want little to do with anything that involves taking away a person’s weapon.

After all, God gave that person the right to bear arms.

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Re: Thoughts and prayers in Perry, Iowa
« Reply #35 on: January 11, 2024, 06:49:59 PM »
Not just cops and courts. State and national lawmakers, too. Lots of $$$$ coming in from the gun lobby. Plus many of them simply believe that gun rights are more important than human lives.
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Re: Thoughts and prayers in Perry, Iowa
« Reply #36 on: January 11, 2024, 07:03:53 PM »
You can have sex with a gun just like a human being

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Re: Thoughts and prayers in Perry, Iowa
« Reply #37 on: January 11, 2024, 07:20:36 PM »
You can have sex with a gun just like a human being

Bang, bang. Shoot, shoot.

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Re: Thoughts and prayers in Perry, Iowa
« Reply #38 on: January 17, 2024, 09:36:20 AM »
Prayers for the family of the principal who distracted the shooter so others could flee.  Respect.
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Re: Thoughts and prayers in Perry, Iowa
« Reply #39 on: January 17, 2024, 10:58:06 AM »
Wait? What?  This is a thing?  How many of the mass shooting suspects were in early hormone therapy?  I need to see this.  Can you share now?

  i was asking the same question myself
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Re: Thoughts and prayers in Perry, Iowa
« Reply #40 on: January 17, 2024, 11:11:19 AM »
  i was asking the same question myself

The answer is that it is not statistically material because the vast, vast, vast majority of these shooters are heterosexual males who aren't going through hormone therapy.

The other thing they have in common is extremely easy access to guns. Even if they are mentally ill. Even if they are former felons. Even if they have a history of spousal abuse or child abuse. Even if they have posted I'm-a-gun-lover-and-I'm-planning-to-kill-people manifestos online. No matter what, acquiring as many guns as they want - including those that can shoot dozens of rounds in seconds - is easy peasy.

In polling, even a considerable majority of Republicans favor laws that promote gun safety. Unfortunately, the politicians themselves lack the political will to do so.

Which encourages some ignorant people to wonder aloud if hormone therapy is the real culprit.
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Re: Thoughts and prayers in Perry, Iowa
« Reply #41 on: January 17, 2024, 11:11:45 AM »
  i was asking the same question myself

98% of mass shooters were prescribed Ivermectin according to a recent study I saw
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Re: Thoughts and prayers in Perry, Iowa
« Reply #42 on: January 17, 2024, 11:13:07 AM »
If they had taken hydroxychloroquine instead, maybe they would not have survived to kill others.
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Re: Thoughts and prayers in Perry, Iowa
« Reply #43 on: January 17, 2024, 02:55:01 PM »
Would a dental hygienist who cut their hair in the midst of hormone therapy be fired?

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Re: Thoughts and prayers in Perry, Iowa
« Reply #44 on: January 17, 2024, 03:51:40 PM »
you guys have got to be just a blast to hang out with
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Re: Thoughts and prayers in Perry, Iowa
« Reply #45 on: January 17, 2024, 05:07:54 PM »
you guys have got to be just a blast to hang out with

Depends on whether anyone overdoses on the Ivermectin
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Re: Thoughts and prayers in Perry, Iowa
« Reply #46 on: January 17, 2024, 05:17:48 PM »
Depends on whether anyone overdoses on the Ivermectin


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Re: Thoughts and prayers in Perry, Iowa
« Reply #47 on: January 17, 2024, 09:49:49 PM »
you guys have got to be just a blast to hang out with

I’m free at tooth-hurty

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Re: Thoughts and prayers in Perry, Iowa
« Reply #48 on: January 18, 2024, 06:18:30 AM »
Depends on whether anyone overdoses on the Ivermectin



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Re: Thoughts and prayers in Perry, Iowa
« Reply #49 on: January 18, 2024, 09:00:56 AM »


    you guys have got to be just a blast to hang out with

I gave your earlier "question" about mass shootings a serious answer, which you've chosen to ignore.
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