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Author Topic: Thoughts and prayers in Perry, Iowa  (Read 5175 times)

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Re: Thoughts and prayers in Perry, Iowa
« Reply #50 on: January 18, 2024, 03:14:45 PM »
Uvalde report is out.   Not kind to the responding officers.   Which is fair.   Need to confront the shooter ASAP.   Need to set up a command structure to get organized.

Once again, and particularly in regards to the principal in Perry, John 15:13.

No greater love than this: that a person lay down his life for his friends.

The officers in Uvalde did not meet this standard.
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Re: Thoughts and prayers in Perry, Iowa
« Reply #51 on: January 18, 2024, 06:48:48 PM »
Uvalde report is out.   Not kind to the responding officers.   Which is fair.   Need to confront the shooter ASAP.   Need to set up a command structure to get organized.

Once again, and particularly in regards to the principal in Perry, John 15:13.

No greater love than this: that a person lay down his life for his friends.

The officers in Uvalde did not meet this standard.

Per twitter, "Nothing says ban assault rifles like 5 school officers, 8 federal DEA officers, 13 U.S. Marshals, 16 sheriff’s deputies, 25 Uvalde officers, 69 officers of nearby law enforcement, 91 state police officers plus 149 U.S. Border Patrol agents being scared of 1 shooter with an AR-15."


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Re: Thoughts and prayers in Perry, Iowa
« Reply #52 on: January 18, 2024, 07:03:52 PM »
Who could ever forget the way d-bag Stephen Paddock killed dozens of people with his guitar in Las Vegas or racist Dylann Roof killed 9 Black churchgoers in Charleston with his lighter.

   The shooters usually turn out to angry leftist loons. who knew?

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Re: Thoughts and prayers in Perry, Iowa
« Reply #53 on: January 18, 2024, 07:10:56 PM »
   The shooters usually turn out to angry leftist loons. who knew?

Probably from all the CRT
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Re: Thoughts and prayers in Perry, Iowa
« Reply #54 on: January 18, 2024, 07:15:39 PM »
   The shooters usually turn out to angry leftist loons. who knew?

Source?

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Re: Thoughts and prayers in Perry, Iowa
« Reply #55 on: January 18, 2024, 07:56:05 PM »
Probably from all the CRT

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Re: Thoughts and prayers in Perry, Iowa
« Reply #56 on: January 19, 2024, 05:57:56 AM »

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Re: Thoughts and prayers in Perry, Iowa
« Reply #57 on: January 19, 2024, 07:21:52 AM »
   The shooters usually turn out to angry leftist loons. who knew?

Do you have any facts that aren't alternative facts, Kellyanne?
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Re: Thoughts and prayers in Perry, Iowa
« Reply #58 on: January 19, 2024, 11:04:19 AM »
The answer is that it is not statistically material because the vast, vast, vast majority of these shooters are heterosexual males who aren't going through hormone therapy.

The other thing they have in common is extremely easy access to guns. Even if they are mentally ill. Even if they are former felons. Even if they have a history of spousal abuse or child abuse. Even if they have posted I'm-a-gun-lover-and-I'm-planning-to-kill-people manifestos online. No matter what, acquiring as many guns as they want - including those that can shoot dozens of rounds in seconds - is easy peasy.

In polling, even a considerable majority of Republicans favor laws that promote gun safety. Unfortunately, the politicians themselves lack the political will to do so.

Which encourages some ignorant people to wonder aloud if hormone therapy is the real culprit.


  source(s)??


once again, i was just asking, but we could start by enforcing the laws we have on the books as MOST of the crime including with guns is being done by recidivists with long long rap sheets.  how about trying to keep us safe from known criminals and criminals with guns like people making false statements on their gun forms in order to get these nasty guns you speak of
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Re: Thoughts and prayers in Perry, Iowa
« Reply #59 on: January 19, 2024, 11:53:57 AM »

  source(s)??


once again, i was just asking, but we could start by enforcing the laws we have on the books as MOST of the crime including with guns is being done by recidivists with long long rap sheets.  how about trying to keep us safe from known criminals and criminals with guns like people making false statements on their gun forms in order to get these nasty guns you speak of

Thanks for the response. About what I expected. I'll resist the urge to have serious dialogue with you again.

Obviously, we need more and more guns in America, the more powerful the better, and it doesn't matter who gets 'em. Because we have to be able to fight off all the transgender antifa members who do 99.9% of these shootings.

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Re: Thoughts and prayers in Perry, Iowa
« Reply #60 on: January 19, 2024, 11:57:39 AM »

  source(s)??


once again, i was just asking, but we could start by enforcing the laws we have on the books as MOST of the crime including with guns is being done by recidivists with long long rap sheets.  how about trying to keep us safe from known criminals and criminals with guns like people making false statements on their gun forms in order to get these nasty guns you speak of

What led you to asking about a correlation between hormone therapy and violence? Why didn't you ask about a correlation between any other variable and violence?

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Re: Thoughts and prayers in Perry, Iowa
« Reply #61 on: January 19, 2024, 12:12:21 PM »
After realizing that these gun massacres happen as often in nearly every other developed country, I’ve concluded there’s nothing that can be done.

I’m turning my attention to all the transgenders who are ruining my daughters’ sports.
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Re: Thoughts and prayers in Perry, Iowa
« Reply #62 on: January 19, 2024, 12:15:37 PM »

  source(s)??


once again, i was just asking, but we could start by enforcing the laws we have on the books as MOST of the crime including with guns is being done by recidivists with long long rap sheets.  how about trying to keep us safe from known criminals and criminals with guns like people making false statements on their gun forms in order to get these nasty guns you speak of

Was the shooter in Perry one of your recidivists?

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Re: Thoughts and prayers in Perry, Iowa
« Reply #63 on: January 19, 2024, 12:25:35 PM »
https://foxbaltimore.com/amp/news/nation-world/fbi-investigating-oregon-transgender-woman-over-racist-antisemitic-social-media-posts-elizabeth-west-arrest-crime

Lots of guns, but it was addressed. At least for now. Need to make sure this wack job doesn’t harm others.

Lots of shootings. Lots avoided - but don’t hear about em much because of… things
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Re: Thoughts and prayers in Perry, Iowa
« Reply #64 on: January 19, 2024, 01:52:18 PM »
https://foxbaltimore.com/amp/news/nation-world/fbi-investigating-oregon-transgender-woman-over-racist-antisemitic-social-media-posts-elizabeth-west-arrest-crime

Lots of guns, but it was addressed. At least for now. Need to make sure this wack job doesn’t harm others.

Lots of shootings. Lots avoided - but don’t hear about em much because of… things

Let's hear them.
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Re: Thoughts and prayers in Perry, Iowa
« Reply #65 on: January 19, 2024, 02:28:07 PM »
https://foxbaltimore.com/amp/news/nation-world/fbi-investigating-oregon-transgender-woman-over-racist-antisemitic-social-media-posts-elizabeth-west-arrest-crime

Lots of guns, but it was addressed. At least for now. Need to make sure this wack job doesn’t harm others.

Lots of shootings. Lots avoided - but don’t hear about em much because of… things

656 mass shootings in 2023, 0.5% or so of the population identify as transgender.

So that should equate to about 3 of them being done by this population or so in according with standard demographics (this issue doesn’t follow standard demographics but you probably know that).

The actual percentage of mass shootings committed by that population since 2014? 0.128% So it’s occurring four times less frequently than basic demographic averages suggest it should?

It’s such an utterly negligible number compared to the scale of the problem that is occurring, the fixation on it really only points to bigotry or delusion.

Never mind it’s a portion of the population who suffers from bullying and abuse at a far higher rate than the average.

So which is it, you think this portion of the population doesn’t deserve to be treated as equals and are masking that belief in concern trolling about their propensity to commit violence that statistics just simply don’t align with and rely on scattered anecdotal examples? or are you scraping for any alternative answer to a problem that’s glaringly laid out before you? Or both?

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Re: Thoughts and prayers in Perry, Iowa
« Reply #66 on: January 19, 2024, 02:47:31 PM »
The constant desperate search for a scapegoat, any scapegoat, to explain the problem as something other than the obvious one.
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Re: Thoughts and prayers in Perry, Iowa
« Reply #67 on: January 19, 2024, 03:14:56 PM »
656 mass shootings in 2023, 0.5% or so of the population identify as transgender.

So that should equate to about 3 of them being done by this population or so in according with standard demographics (this issue doesn’t follow standard demographics but you probably know that).

The actual percentage of mass shootings committed by that population since 2014? 0.128% So it’s occurring four times less frequently than basic demographic averages suggest it should?

It’s such an utterly negligible number compared to the scale of the problem that is occurring, the fixation on it really only points to bigotry or delusion.

Never mind it’s a portion of the population who suffers from bullying and abuse at a far higher rate than the average.

So which is it, you think this portion of the population doesn’t deserve to be treated as equals and are masking that belief in concern trolling about their propensity to commit violence that statistics just simply don’t align with and rely on scattered anecdotal examples? or are you scraping for any alternative answer to a problem that’s glaringly laid out before you? Or both?

You'd think our resident data guy would know things like this.

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Re: Thoughts and prayers in Perry, Iowa
« Reply #68 on: January 19, 2024, 03:17:16 PM »
You'd think our resident data guy would know things like this.
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Re: Thoughts and prayers in Perry, Iowa
« Reply #69 on: January 19, 2024, 05:37:42 PM »
You'd think our resident data guy would know things like this.

Their feelings don't care about facts.

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Re: Thoughts and prayers in Perry, Iowa
« Reply #70 on: January 19, 2024, 11:53:07 PM »
But what about Chicago?
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Re: Thoughts and prayers in Perry, Iowa
« Reply #71 on: January 20, 2024, 06:29:42 PM »
Thanks for the response. About what I expected. I'll resist the urge to have serious dialogue with you again.

Obviously, we need more and more guns in America, the more powerful the better, and it doesn't matter who gets 'em. Because we have to be able to fight off all the transgender antifa members who do 99.9% of these shootings.

Freedom!

How does anyone have a serious conversation with that drivel?  My thing about the transgender was half in jest because there have been a few more as of recent, but the one in Nashville was particularly troubling because they wouldn’t release his/ her manifesto…why not? Maybe we could have learned something from it?

Fact- guns are legal and until they start to enforce the laws on the books, we are going to continue to see more of these tragic occurrences.  For some reason, this country has become way to lax on filling our prisons back up with bad people who cannot function safely within our society
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Re: Thoughts and prayers in Perry, Iowa
« Reply #72 on: January 20, 2024, 06:36:48 PM »
How does anyone have a serious conversation with that drivel?  My thing about the transgender was half in jest because there have been a few more as of recent, but the one in Nashville was particularly troubling because they wouldn’t release his/ her manifesto…why not? Maybe we could have learned something from it?

Fact- guns are legal and until they start to enforce the laws on the books, we are going to continue to see more of these tragic occurrences.  For some reason, this country has become way to lax on filling our prisons back up with bad people who cannot function safely within our society

How would that have protected people from the shooter in Perry?
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Re: Thoughts and prayers in Perry, Iowa
« Reply #73 on: January 20, 2024, 06:38:23 PM »
How does anyone have a serious conversation with that drivel?  My thing about the transgender was half in jest because there have been a few more as of recent, but the one in Nashville was particularly troubling because they wouldn’t release his/ her manifesto…why not? Maybe we could have learned something from it?

Fact- guns are legal and until they start to enforce the laws on the books, we are going to continue to see more of these tragic occurrences.  For some reason, this country has become way to lax on filling our prisons back up with bad people who cannot function safely within our society

They didn’t release the Louisville shooter’s manifesto either. What’s the conspiracy behind that one?

Manifestos are usually released years later if at all, and heavily redacted.
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Re: Thoughts and prayers in Perry, Iowa
« Reply #74 on: January 20, 2024, 06:52:04 PM »
How many shooters have used Columbine and Christchurch as inspiration due to the extensive details behind their manifestos and actions?

Besides, you seem content to Make up your own reasoning behind it anyway to fit your narrative. What’s the big deal