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HowardsWorld

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Kansas Line
« on: November 21, 2023, 07:13:53 AM »
Kansas -4
O/U 156
Predicted Score 80-76

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Re: Kansas Line
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2023, 07:15:30 AM »
It's not every day (or even every season) when you have a chance to play against the No. 1 team. It's rarer still when you get that chance when you've got a team that can actually beat them. This is a special game. Let's go Warriors.
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Re: Kansas Line
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2023, 07:47:43 AM »
Gonna be tough for MU to win tonight, especially after th energy they had to expend to get by UCLA. KU has the fresher legs which could help them in the 2nd half.

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Re: Kansas Line
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2023, 07:55:20 AM »
I loved when Shaka asked the team how of you were recruited by UCLA. I think that same motivation will work well tonight. These guys belong playing in these type of games and I like their chances a lot.

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Re: Kansas Line
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2023, 08:45:43 AM »
Gonna be tough for MU to win tonight, especially after th energy they had to expend to get by UCLA. KU has the fresher legs which could help them in the 2nd half.

I mean, Kam, Stevie and Kolek to an extent should be relatively fresh

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Re: Kansas Line
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2023, 09:03:44 AM »
I still have nightmares about 2003 FF. Kansas forward Nick Collison out muscles Robert Jackson or Scott Merritt for the rebound. Rifles a 40 foot outlet pass to Kirk Heinrich at half court, who proceeds to speed dribble to the basket for an uncontested layup.

Wash. Rinse. Repeat.

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Re: Kansas Line
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2023, 09:04:50 AM »
Kansas line?


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Re: Kansas Line
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2023, 09:32:07 AM »
when people post the line, what book or analytic service are you citing?

Is kenpom Kansas -4?

I ask because for non-gamblers beating the analytics lines is critical to how our computer ranking numbers move, so I'm always interested in what we need to do to "beat" kenpom/torvik.

I care somewhat less what we need to do to beat draftkings.

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Re: Kansas Line
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2023, 09:33:41 AM »
Kansas line?


There's no place like home.


I was thinking more "carry on my wayward son."
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Re: Kansas Line
« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2023, 09:34:24 AM »
Go with yours.
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Re: Kansas Line
« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2023, 10:06:13 AM »
Kansas is beatable.  MU needs to hit a higher clip of their open threes and continue to gang  rebound.  There is nothing so scary about Kansas that a team built like MU can’t win.  Great opportunity ahead.  Looking forward to it.

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Re: Kansas Line
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2023, 10:12:09 AM »
when people post the line, what book or analytic service are you citing?

Is kenpom Kansas -4?

I ask because for non-gamblers beating the analytics lines is critical to how our computer ranking numbers move, so I'm always interested in what we need to do to "beat" kenpom/torvik.

I care somewhat less what we need to do to beat draftkings.

KenPom has KU -3, with a total of 157. 

The books are generally within a point or two of the computer guys, most likely to offset where they think money will come in.  KU will likely be a big public team, so the books probably list the extra point to take advantage of the market.
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Re: Kansas Line
« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2023, 10:12:37 AM »
Kansas is beatable.  MU needs to hit a higher clip of their open threes and continue to gang  rebound.  There is nothing so scary about Kansas that a team built like MU can’t win.  Great opportunity ahead.  Looking forward to it.

I'll be happy if they make their free throws. My blood pressure goes up every time they miss.

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« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2023, 10:16:22 AM »
Make Dickinson move on defense and make him uncomfortable.  Volatile guy you can take out of the game mentally
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Re: Kansas Line
« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2023, 10:16:49 AM »
1. Make Open Looks
2. Make Free Throws
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Re: Kansas Line
« Reply #15 on: November 21, 2023, 10:19:24 AM »
FT% No Matta

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Re: Kansas Line
« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2023, 10:20:26 AM »
Score more points.

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Re: Kansas Line
« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2023, 10:23:46 AM »
Go Marquette!

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Re: Kansas Line
« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2023, 10:30:02 AM »
I'll be happy if they make their free throws. My blood pressure goes up every time they miss.

I agree 69.  That was maddening.  Would have been a nice pressure release in the first half to have a couple front ends go down as well as to increase the lead in the second half. Kudos to the guys for a scrappy victory. 

I said it elsewhere but hopefully this is the Holy Cross game of 2003.  Or St. John’s of last years Big East tournament.  Now that we  got one victory hopefully the flood gates open.

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Re: Kansas Line
« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2023, 10:56:22 AM »
I mean, Kam, Stevie and Kolek to an extent should be relatively fresh

Kolek played 33 minutes...

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Re: Kansas Line
« Reply #20 on: November 21, 2023, 10:57:11 AM »
Gonna be tough for MU to win tonight, especially after th energy they had to expend to get by UCLA. KU has the fresher legs which could help them in the 2nd half.

Do they really? Kansas has no bench and their big three (Dickinson, McCullar, Harris) played more minutes against Chaminade than Marquette's top-3 (Kolek, Oso, Kam) did.
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Re: Kansas Line
« Reply #21 on: November 21, 2023, 11:00:52 AM »
when people post the line, what book or analytic service are you citing?

Is kenpom Kansas -4?

I ask because for non-gamblers beating the analytics lines is critical to how our computer ranking numbers move, so I'm always interested in what we need to do to "beat" kenpom/torvik.

I care somewhat less what we need to do to beat draftkings.
The books tried having different lines then KenPom...that didn't work so well for them ;D

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Re: Kansas Line
« Reply #22 on: November 21, 2023, 11:04:58 AM »
Do they really? Kansas has no bench and their big three (Dickinson, McCullar, Harris) played more minutes against Chaminade than Marquette's top-3 (Kolek, Oso, Kam) did.

Our minutes were a bit different than theirs, though.  And they have an extra 3 hours of rest and recovery.
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Re: Kansas Line
« Reply #23 on: November 21, 2023, 11:08:18 AM »
Tyler Kolek has spent his entire life dreaming about playing in a game like this and Shaka has an opportunity to accomplish something that very few thought was attainable. Last year I thought the team chemistry would be very difficult to replicate and any potential shortfall in that category has been replaced by experience and talent. This team is built for the long haul and I am feeling very good about their chances.

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Re: Kansas Line
« Reply #24 on: November 21, 2023, 11:09:37 AM »
Gonna be tough for MU to win tonight, especially after th energy they had to expend to get by UCLA. KU has the fresher legs which could help them in the 2nd half.

These are 18-22 year old kids in the greatest shape of their lives.

 

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