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Re: Kansas Line
« Reply #25 on: November 21, 2023, 11:12:37 AM »
Do they really? Kansas has no bench and their big three (Dickinson, McCullar, Harris) played more minutes against Chaminade than Marquette's top-3 (Kolek, Oso, Kam) did.

The fresh legs argument is really coming in early this year.

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Re: Kansas Line
« Reply #26 on: November 21, 2023, 11:12:53 AM »
MU is built to succeed in games like this. Last year in BET looked flat against St. John’s only to come out and play 2 fantastic games in the following 48 hours. Hoping for the same here.

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Re: Kansas Line
« Reply #27 on: November 21, 2023, 11:15:17 AM »
How is MU going to stop Dickinson let alone slow him down? Pretty much need foul trouble issues.

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Re: Kansas Line
« Reply #28 on: November 21, 2023, 11:16:06 AM »
Recall?  MU played Kansas 5 years ago to the day in the NIT Tipoff - they were # 2 at the time.  WE led by 9 at the half and proceeded not to score until under the 11 minute mark in the second half.  Crushing - tho we did bounce back with a nice OT win against Louisville in the consolation game.

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Re: Kansas Line
« Reply #29 on: November 21, 2023, 11:41:08 AM »
How is MU going to stop Dickinson let alone slow him down? Pretty much need foul trouble issues.

Torch him in pick and roll, like Kentucky did (and we're frankly better at). Use doubles with small defenders to force turnovers (again like Kentucky did).

Dickinson is great and will put up numbers, but he can be exploited. Just like we did at Purdue and Edey for 30 minutes last year.
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Re: Kansas Line
« Reply #30 on: November 21, 2023, 11:47:06 AM »
Recall?  MU played Kansas 5 years ago to the day in the NIT Tipoff - they were # 2 at the time.  WE led by 9 at the half and proceeded not to score until under the 11 minute mark in the second half.  Crushing - tho we did bounce back with a nice OT win against Louisville in the consolation game.

I was at that tourney, it was a rollercoaster. That 1H versus Kansas was great, the finish v Louisville was great.
That win starter the greatest stretch in Wojos tenure.
Being in Brooklyn and Manhattan was awesome.

I have a feeling that if tonight and tomorrow go as planned I’m going to regret not going to Maui for the rest of my life, but I’m really happy for those that could make it.

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Re: Kansas Line
« Reply #31 on: November 21, 2023, 11:49:11 AM »
Torch him in pick and roll, like Kentucky did (and we're frankly better at). Use doubles with small defenders to force turnovers (again like Kentucky did).

Dickinson is great and will put up numbers, but he can be exploited. Just like we did at Purdue and Edey for 30 minutes last year.

Yup. Pack it in with double teams and fast hands and emphasize deflections and turns all game.
When you get it, run like heck.
When you don’t, crash the glass with all 5 guys.

Allow them the outside shot and if they beat you at your game you weren’t going to win anyway.

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Re: Kansas Line
« Reply #32 on: November 21, 2023, 11:49:28 AM »
Torch him in pick and roll, like Kentucky did (and we're frankly better at). Use doubles with small defenders to force turnovers (again like Kentucky did).

Dickinson is great and will put up numbers, but he can be exploited. Just like we did at Purdue and Edey for 30 minutes last year.

Yep. Illinois did the same in the scrimmage. At the outset of this tournament i thought UCLA was a worse matchup for us than Kansas. UCLA clogged the lane a lot early on and had the height to do it--just lost some discipline in the end. Kansas was quite susceptible to things we are good at--PnR and (usually) hitting open 3s like the looks they were allowing to Kentucky.

Maybe I am way off, but feel pretty good about this game.
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Re: Kansas Line
« Reply #33 on: November 21, 2023, 12:00:46 PM »
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Re: Kansas Line
« Reply #34 on: November 21, 2023, 12:07:07 PM »
Yep. Illinois did the same in the scrimmage. At the outset of this tournament i thought UCLA was a worse matchup for us than Kansas. UCLA clogged the lane a lot early on and had the height to do it--just lost some discipline in the end. Kansas was quite susceptible to things we are good at--PnR and (usually) hitting open 3s like the looks they were allowing to Kentucky.

Maybe I am way off, but feel pretty good about this game.

I am sensing a Baylor-like Beatdown.  Kam, Stevie, Chase and to an extent Tyler can flush last night’s game from their system - and respond with a vengeance. 
It’s great when 4 of your top players aren’t at their best, and you can still beat a pretty good UCLA team.  Let’s Go!!!!!

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Re: Kansas Line
« Reply #35 on: November 21, 2023, 01:37:03 PM »
Do they really? Kansas has no bench and their big three (Dickinson, McCullar, Harris) played more minutes against Chaminade than Marquette's top-3 (Kolek, Oso, Kam) did.
That absolutely baffled me. Kansas is up 25 with <4 minutes to go and Self has the starters out there. Why?
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« Reply #36 on: November 21, 2023, 01:50:49 PM »
That absolutely baffled me. Kansas is up 25 with <4 minutes to go and Self has the starters out there. Why?

Maybe he didn't think they were particularly "hard" minutes, and he wanted to see/work on something specific that could help the team against a real opponent later on?

I don't know that's what he was thinking, but maybe.

As for tonight's game ...

I respect Kansas. Some very good players on this team (as usual), and obviously an outstanding program. But I don't think this Kansas team is any better than the UConn team we beat at MSG last March. One doesn't need blue-and-gold tinted glasses to see a path to victory.
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Re: Kansas Line
« Reply #37 on: November 21, 2023, 01:53:27 PM »
1. Make Open Looks
2. Make Free Throws
Somebody tell Oso about making FTs

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Re: Kansas Line
« Reply #38 on: November 21, 2023, 01:57:26 PM »
Somebody tell Oso about making FTs

The rest of the team as well. It will cost us eventually.

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Re: Kansas Line
« Reply #39 on: November 21, 2023, 01:59:25 PM »
Somebody tell Oso about making FTs

I doubt the coaching staff has told him that
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Re: Kansas Line
« Reply #40 on: November 21, 2023, 02:02:50 PM »
Somebody tell Oso about making FTs


Someone tell freethrows about making Oso.
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Re: Kansas Line
« Reply #41 on: November 21, 2023, 02:15:44 PM »
I doubt the coaching staff has told him that

Maybe if Shaka got right in their faces and yelled at them - or better yet, choked them - they'd get the message and make their free throws.
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Re: Kansas Line
« Reply #42 on: November 21, 2023, 02:22:48 PM »
Somebody tell Oso about making FTs

Is it me, but he seems to miss early in the game. He seems to make the clutch FT near the end of the game. What gets me, Kam and TK excluded, is that our 3pt shooters struggle at the line.

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Re: Kansas Line
« Reply #43 on: November 21, 2023, 02:23:44 PM »
I am going to watch more closely, but it is my impression so far this year he is locking his knees, nearly locking his elbows, and basically shooting with a flick of his wrist.   
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Re: Kansas Line
« Reply #44 on: November 21, 2023, 02:27:29 PM »
Is it me, but he seems to miss early in the game. He seems to make the clutch FT near the end of the game. What gets me, Kam and TK excluded, is that our 3pt shooters struggle at the line.

Kam actually for his career has been a very ok free throw shooter

Jop is way better at the line.

Chase had a bad game last night but was good last year. Not a ton of sample on him.
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Re: Kansas Line
« Reply #45 on: November 21, 2023, 02:55:23 PM »
Is it me, but he seems to miss early in the game. He seems to make the clutch FT near the end of the game. What gets me, Kam and TK excluded, is that our 3pt shooters struggle at the line.

I agree. The more important the FT, usually the better he does.

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Re: Kansas Line
« Reply #46 on: November 21, 2023, 02:57:43 PM »
I agree. The more important the FT, usually the better he does.

Well let’s ensure JB is far far away before each Oso FT

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Re: Kansas Line
« Reply #47 on: November 21, 2023, 03:03:39 PM »
I agree. The more important the FT, usually the better he does.

All free throws matter.

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Re: Kansas Line
« Reply #48 on: November 22, 2023, 12:02:26 AM »
Yep. Illinois did the same in the scrimmage. At the outset of this tournament i thought UCLA was a worse matchup for us than Kansas. UCLA clogged the lane a lot early on and had the height to do it--just lost some discipline in the end. Kansas was quite susceptible to things we are good at--PnR and (usually) hitting open 3s like the looks they were allowing to Kentucky.

Maybe I am way off, but feel pretty good about this game.

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Re: Kansas Line
« Reply #49 on: November 22, 2023, 12:05:30 AM »
Torch him in pick and roll, like Kentucky did (and we're frankly better at). Use doubles with small defenders to force turnovers (again like Kentucky did).

Dickinson is great and will put up numbers, but he can be exploited. Just like we did at Purdue and Edey for 30 minutes last year.
Killed them inside, turned him over left and right. Let's do the same to Edey tomorrow.
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