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Marquette
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Marquette vs.
George Mason
Date/Time: Nov 8, 2024 8:00pm
TV: Peacock+
Schedule for 2024-25
Stony Brook
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HowardsWorld

Kansas -4
O/U 156
Predicted Score 80-76

StillAWarrior

It's not every day (or even every season) when you have a chance to play against the No. 1 team. It's rarer still when you get that chance when you've got a team that can actually beat them. This is a special game. Let's go Warriors.
Never wrestle with a pig.  You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.

Norm

Gonna be tough for MU to win tonight, especially after th energy they had to expend to get by UCLA. KU has the fresher legs which could help them in the 2nd half.

Goose

I loved when Shaka asked the team how of you were recruited by UCLA. I think that same motivation will work well tonight. These guys belong playing in these type of games and I like their chances a lot.

ChitownSpaceForRent

Quote from: Norm on November 21, 2023, 07:47:43 AM
Gonna be tough for MU to win tonight, especially after th energy they had to expend to get by UCLA. KU has the fresher legs which could help them in the 2nd half.

I mean, Kam, Stevie and Kolek to an extent should be relatively fresh

Dickthedribbler

I still have nightmares about 2003 FF. Kansas forward Nick Collison out muscles Robert Jackson or Scott Merritt for the rebound. Rifles a 40 foot outlet pass to Kirk Heinrich at half court, who proceeds to speed dribble to the basket for an uncontested layup.

Wash. Rinse. Repeat.

tower912

Kansas line?


There's no place like home.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

jficke13

when people post the line, what book or analytic service are you citing?

Is kenpom Kansas -4?

I ask because for non-gamblers beating the analytics lines is critical to how our computer ranking numbers move, so I'm always interested in what we need to do to "beat" kenpom/torvik.

I care somewhat less what we need to do to beat draftkings.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: tower912 on November 21, 2023, 09:04:50 AM
Kansas line?


There's no place like home.


I was thinking more "carry on my wayward son."
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Shooter McGavin

Kansas is beatable.  MU needs to hit a higher clip of their open threes and continue to gang  rebound.  There is nothing so scary about Kansas that a team built like MU can't win.  Great opportunity ahead.  Looking forward to it.

MDMU04

Quote from: jficke13 on November 21, 2023, 09:32:07 AM
when people post the line, what book or analytic service are you citing?

Is kenpom Kansas -4?

I ask because for non-gamblers beating the analytics lines is critical to how our computer ranking numbers move, so I'm always interested in what we need to do to "beat" kenpom/torvik.

I care somewhat less what we need to do to beat draftkings.

KenPom has KU -3, with a total of 157. 

The books are generally within a point or two of the computer guys, most likely to offset where they think money will come in.  KU will likely be a big public team, so the books probably list the extra point to take advantage of the market.
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muwarrior69

Quote from: Shooter McGavin on November 21, 2023, 10:06:13 AM
Kansas is beatable.  MU needs to hit a higher clip of their open threes and continue to gang  rebound.  There is nothing so scary about Kansas that a team built like MU can't win.  Great opportunity ahead.  Looking forward to it.

I'll be happy if they make their free throws. My blood pressure goes up every time they miss.

Uncle Rico

Make Dickinson move on defense and make him uncomfortable.  Volatile guy you can take out of the game mentally
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

Herman Cain

1. Make Open Looks
2. Make Free Throws
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cheebs09


real chili 83


NCMUFan


Shooter McGavin

Quote from: muwarrior69 on November 21, 2023, 10:12:37 AM
I'll be happy if they make their free throws. My blood pressure goes up every time they miss.

I agree 69.  That was maddening.  Would have been a nice pressure release in the first half to have a couple front ends go down as well as to increase the lead in the second half. Kudos to the guys for a scrappy victory. 

I said it elsewhere but hopefully this is the Holy Cross game of 2003.  Or St. John's of last years Big East tournament.  Now that we  got one victory hopefully the flood gates open.

#UnleashSean

Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on November 21, 2023, 08:45:43 AM
I mean, Kam, Stevie and Kolek to an extent should be relatively fresh

Kolek played 33 minutes...

brewcity77

Quote from: Norm on November 21, 2023, 07:47:43 AM
Gonna be tough for MU to win tonight, especially after th energy they had to expend to get by UCLA. KU has the fresher legs which could help them in the 2nd half.

Do they really? Kansas has no bench and their big three (Dickinson, McCullar, Harris) played more minutes against Chaminade than Marquette's top-3 (Kolek, Oso, Kam) did.
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avid1010

Quote from: jficke13 on November 21, 2023, 09:32:07 AM
when people post the line, what book or analytic service are you citing?

Is kenpom Kansas -4?

I ask because for non-gamblers beating the analytics lines is critical to how our computer ranking numbers move, so I'm always interested in what we need to do to "beat" kenpom/torvik.

I care somewhat less what we need to do to beat draftkings.
The books tried having different lines then KenPom...that didn't work so well for them ;D

Holy hell all time

Quote from: brewcity77 on November 21, 2023, 10:57:11 AM
Do they really? Kansas has no bench and their big three (Dickinson, McCullar, Harris) played more minutes against Chaminade than Marquette's top-3 (Kolek, Oso, Kam) did.

Our minutes were a bit different than theirs, though.  And they have an extra 3 hours of rest and recovery.

Goose

Tyler Kolek has spent his entire life dreaming about playing in a game like this and Shaka has an opportunity to accomplish something that very few thought was attainable. Last year I thought the team chemistry would be very difficult to replicate and any potential shortfall in that category has been replaced by experience and talent. This team is built for the long haul and I am feeling very good about their chances.

First team to 80 wins the game.


Jockey

Quote from: Norm on November 21, 2023, 07:47:43 AM
Gonna be tough for MU to win tonight, especially after th energy they had to expend to get by UCLA. KU has the fresher legs which could help them in the 2nd half.

These are 18-22 year old kids in the greatest shape of their lives.

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