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The Sultan

You are correct that we are treating many migrants awfully, including using them as political pawns.

But those seeking asylum are not crossing the border illegally.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

rocket surgeon

Quote from: Not A Serious Person on December 12, 2023, 08:32:05 PM
@realchrisrufo
The students at the Harvard Crimson are young, idealistic, and honest enough to write that Claudine Gay committed plagiarism.



Compare this to the apparatchiks at the New York Times, who cynically operate as the ideological enforcers for the regime.




   this is CLASSIC !  the ha vud red vs the slimes...beautiful!  don't think i can recall anyone ever comparing the crimson with fox news, but ny times fortifying their "pravda" reputation for all of you who rely on it as your "go to" symbol of "journalism"  standing "O" baby and another shout out to wades with his unflappable support for anti-semitism-stand proud young man.  maybe it's just me with my sleepy eyes but damn, that isis flag and blm flag looking like they are cut from similar cloth, eyn'a?
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

The Sultan

Rocket. Don't worry, your eyes are fine. You're just dumb.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Uncle Rico

Quote from: rocket surgeon on December 13, 2023, 06:06:29 AM

   this is CLASSIC !  the ha vud red vs the slimes...beautiful!  don't think i can recall anyone ever comparing the crimson with fox news, but ny times fortifying their "pravda" reputation for all of you who rely on it as your "go to" symbol of "journalism"  standing "O" baby and another shout out to wades with his unflappable support for anti-semitism-stand proud young man.  maybe it's just me with my sleepy eyes but damn, that isis flag and blm flag looking like they are cut from similar cloth, eyn'a?

8 out of 10

Guster is for Lovers

reinko

Quote from: rocket surgeon on December 13, 2023, 06:06:29 AM

   this is CLASSIC !  the ha vud red vs the slimes...beautiful!  don't think i can recall anyone ever comparing the crimson with fox news, but ny times fortifying their "pravda" reputation for all of you who rely on it as your "go to" symbol of "journalism"  standing "O" baby and another shout out to wades with his unflappable support for anti-semitism-stand proud young man.  maybe it's just me with my sleepy eyes but damn, that isis flag and blm flag looking like they are cut from similar cloth, eyn'a?

what's it like to be this online?

The Sultan

Quote from: Not A Serious Person on December 12, 2023, 08:23:42 PM
It feels like not firing Harvard President Claudine Gay did not end this issue but is ratcheting it up to somewhere they did not want it to go: the larger problems with politics and DEI within elite universities.

FYI, the Harvard board is called the Harvard Corporation. It might be the most elitist organization in the country. And the head of the board, the senior trustee, might be the apex predator of elitest.

The current senior trustee of the Harvard corporation is Penny Pritzker, former commerce Secretary for Obama and Illinois Governor JB Pritzker's sister.

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Lawmakers introduce bipartisan resolution condemning college presidents' response to antisemitism
The resolution, first obtained by NBC News, calls on the presidents of Harvard and MIT to resign.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/bipartisan-resolution-condemn-college-presidents-antisemitism-campus-rcna129350

The resolution, first obtained by NBC News, is authored by House GOP Conference Chair Elise Stefanik, R-N.Y.; the three other lead sponsors are Majority Leader Steve Scalise, R-La., and two Jewish American Democrats, Problem Solvers Caucus Co-Chair Josh Gottheimer of New Jersey and Rep. Jared Moskowitz of Florida.

It is expected to get a vote this week, Stefanik's office said.


lol. Yet another worthless battle in a useless culture war.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass


Heisenberg

Quote from: reinko on December 13, 2023, 07:12:58 AM
what's it like to be this online?

Maybe they were drunk, returning from a KISS concert, driving 100 MPH after spending time in a casino.

MU82

Quote from: Not A Serious Person on December 13, 2023, 10:41:09 AM
Maybe they were drunk, returning from a KISS concert, driving 100 MPH after spending time in a casino.

Maybe they were TERRORISTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 12, 2023, 10:04:54 PM
Calling someone smart, or in Trump's constant hyperbole (if you haven't noticed) doesn't have any connection with whether you support their politics. Any honest Democrat on Scoop or anywhere else.would concede that Elon Musk is a genius (except for forgetful). So what? I don't understand what you mean by the "siding with Putin"part but I certainly can't blame him for being suspicious re US intelligence after all of their recent blunders and on a more personal level how they pushed lies about him that they knew were lies.

Democrats don't have to "call for open borders". It's pretty much a done deal - how much are illegal crossings up since President Biden was elected? What have they done to stop them? It took them three years and several busloads to sanctuary cities for them to concede there was a crisis at the border. Until then it was "what's the big deal"?
Yikes. Hard to determine how much of the above is willful ignorance vs. how much is intentional intellectual dishonesty.

Don't understand what "siding with Putin" part means? Yeah, ok.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

NCMUFan

All I read on here is ignorance and more ignorance.
Stop the ignorance!
Ok, that is my position.

reinko

Quote from: Not A Serious Person on December 13, 2023, 10:41:09 AM
Maybe they were drunk, returning from a KISS concert, driving 100 MPH after spending time in a casino.

Maybe?!?!

Lennys Tap

Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on December 13, 2023, 10:54:20 AM
Yikes. Hard to determine how much of the above is willful ignorance vs. how much is intentional intellectual dishonesty.


Zero. Willful ignorance and dishonesty (intellectual and otherwise) is your department.

MU82

https://apnews.com/article/north-america-donald-trump-ap-top-news-elections-moscow-2d4866bea9f243419ac216f68a858704

Even Republicans were stunned by the then-president's kowtowing to Putin on an international stage.

The previous president would hand a big chunk of Europe to Putin on a silver platter, anything to curry favor with a dictator who would nuke America into submission if he thought he could get away with it.

And in keeping with the theme of this thread ... Putin, an ally of Iran's most extreme leaders, would happily see all Jews eliminated, too. He thinks they're vermin.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

4everwarriors

If Gay were not what she is, she'd be drop kicked half way to Antartica by now, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Uncle Rico

Guster is for Lovers

Not all scoop users are created equal apparently

Quote from: Not A Serious Person on December 13, 2023, 01:01:15 AM
Correct

I'm Philo-sematic and Zionist and happy to declare it again here.

Are you willing to equally declare to everyone you are pro-Hamas and happy to proclaim it as well? Because you post pro-Hamas propaganda, and when I called you on it, you insulted and swore at me.

And if you want to be outraged by 20 innocent people being killed in Gaza, try this story.

Twenty hostages have died in Hamas captivity since Oct. 7 attacks.
https://www.msnbc.com/yasmin-vossoughian/watch/twenty-hostages-have-died-in-hamas-captivity-since-oct-7-attacks-199888453856

I myself can say that hostages dying in captivity is unequivocally bad, and it hurts me that Israeli civilians are caught in this conflict, dying, and being held like this.

I have been to every continent on earth besides Oceania/Antartica and maybe I am an idealist there but people in general are kind, welcoming, and eager to share and learn about each other's cultures. Our government and loudest voices often do not speak for those on an individual level.

You however express something along the lines of bizarre glee over the mass casualties of women, children, journalists, etc because they happen to
fall under a group you consider subhuman (deny all you want but you have done nothing but insist that their culture and society has never existed which is genocidal language, thank goodness you aren't in charge).

Every civilian death to me in this conflict is a tragic waste and only a trend in the wrong direction and a step towards continuation of perpetual violence. I have been clear that I believe that shock and awe with massive collateral damage will only make Israel's regional opposition worse (we have debated whether that's misguided or not for the last 150 pages).

I believe Hamas in its current state is a symptom of societal hopelessness and cynical foreign opportunism. Recognizing there's underlying causes to a problem does not make someone "pro". (Well at least not those who can think critically and not just spew links they clearly haven't read closely).

I guess where we will never see eye to eye is people's equality despite their religion, birth, and place in life/society. I don't know if it's due to basic intellectual incuriosity, intellectual arrogance, Or what. But you should try having some empathy for a change. It would do you and this discussion some good.
" There are two things I can consistently smell.    Poop and Chlorine.  All poop smells like acrid baby poop mixed with diaper creme. And almost anything that smells remotely like poop; porta-johns, water filtration plants, fertilizer, etc., smells exactly the same." - Tower912

Re: COVID-19

Not all scoop users are created equal apparently

Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 13, 2023, 11:52:29 AM
If Gay were not what she is, she'd be drop kicked half way to Antartica by now, hey?

Pretty good deal on these Doc!

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" There are two things I can consistently smell.    Poop and Chlorine.  All poop smells like acrid baby poop mixed with diaper creme. And almost anything that smells remotely like poop; porta-johns, water filtration plants, fertilizer, etc., smells exactly the same." - Tower912

Re: COVID-19

MU82

Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 13, 2023, 11:52:29 AM
If Gay were not what she is, she'd be drop kicked half way to Antartica by now, hey?

Wow, you're real on a white- victimhood roll today.

"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

ATL MU Warrior

#3944
Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 13, 2023, 11:52:29 AM
If Gay were not what she is, she'd be drop kicked half way to Antartica by now, hey?
And if she were not what she is, this entire controversy would have long blown over already.

reinko

Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 13, 2023, 11:52:29 AM
If Gay were not what she is, she'd be drop kicked half way to Antartica by now, hey?

She's a "what" now.  Between this and your Arab takes, lemme guess, you asked for a white hood when graduating from dental school??

4everwarriors

She's a black woman who, when questioned whether calling for the genocide of Jews would violate Harvard's code of conduct, could only say it depended on the context. Really?
Of course, she walked it back when Harvard's board would meet to discuss her testimony. Oh, she's also guilty of plagiarism within her doctoral thesis. Pretty serious stuff for the president of one of the world's most prestigious institutions of higher learning to represent, aina?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

ATL MU Warrior

Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 13, 2023, 12:33:25 PM
She's a black woman who, when questioned whether calling for the genocide of Jews would violate Harvard's code of conduct, could only say it depended on the context. Really?
Of course, she walked it back when Harvard's board would meet to discuss her testimony. Oh, she's also guilty of plagiarism within her doctoral thesis. Pretty serious stuff for the president of one of the world's most prestigious institutions of higher learning to represent, aina?
Could have saved yourself a whole lot of time there.

MU82

"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

4everwarriors

Don't try to put words in my mouth. Under what context would calling for the genocide of Jews be an acceptable official position for Harvard to take, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

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