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tower912

There were 5-6 Bears in that mid air scrum. That is what is supposed to happen.  The tip did not go in their favor.   It happens every couple of years.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: tower912 on October 28, 2024, 07:29:40 PM
There were 5-6 Bears in that mid air scrum. That is what is supposed to happen.  The tip did not go in their favor.   It happens every couple of years.

It's okay to say the coaches suck. 
Guster is for Lovers

MuggsyB


tower912

It seems mandatory.
I agree on the next to last play being poorly defended.   The concept of handing off to the back up center doesn't bother me, having watched the Lions.  Lord knows they do silly stuff enough.   The hail Mary being answered is just bad luck.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

The Sultan

Quote from: tower912 on October 28, 2024, 07:29:40 PM
There were 5-6 Bears in that mid air scrum. That is what is supposed to happen.  The tip did not go in their favor.   It happens every couple of years.   

Actually that's not what supposed to happen. A defender was supposed to play behind, and another in front, of the scrum.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MuggsyB

Quote from: tower912 on October 28, 2024, 07:40:53 PM
It seems mandatory.
I agree on the next to last play being poorly defended.   The concept of handing off to the back up center doesn't bother me, having watched the Lions.  Lord knows they do silly stuff enough.   The hail Mary being answered is just bad luck.

You're a kind person Tower. But sometimes kindness clouds reality.  This is an unusually poor coach and staff.

tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MuggsyB

Quote from: tower912 on October 28, 2024, 07:52:44 PM
Perhaps.

That said they're not good and the O-Line is a total disaster.  Look at their schedule/wins when you get a chance. 

The Sultan

Man this MNF game is a complete flag fest. A lot of really picky calls. 
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

WhiteTrash

Quote from: MuggsyB on October 28, 2024, 07:43:21 PM
You're a kind person Tower. But sometimes kindness clouds reality.  This is an unusually poor coach and staff.
I've listened to, read and watched a lot of coverage of this game and Tower is the only person to try to give Flus a pass. You can find more people that believe the moon is made of cheese than think that Flus did an acceptable job.

jesmu84

Quote from: tower912 on October 28, 2024, 07:29:40 PM
There were 5-6 Bears in that mid air scrum. That is what is supposed to happen.  The tip did not go in their favor.   It happens every couple of years.

Even coach said it was supposed to be 1 Bear boxing out every individual eligible commander plus 1 Bear in front of scrum for tip and 1 Bear behind scrum for tip.

So, no, what the bears did isn't what was supposed to happen

tower912

So, players did not execute the play call.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

PointWarrior

Quote from: tower912 on October 28, 2024, 08:43:40 PM
So, players did not execute the play call.

can't fire the players...

WhiteTrash

Quote from: tower912 on October 28, 2024, 08:43:40 PM
So, players did not execute the play call.
Chirping at the fans instead of playing football.

Flus should have called a TO when they saw what was going on.

Also, had a player spying Daniels incase he ran for it. Seriously.  The dream scenario for the D in a QB running with a crowd of defenders near the goal line.

jesmu84

Quote from: tower912 on October 28, 2024, 08:43:40 PM
So, players did not execute the play call.

"5-6 players in the scrum. That is what is supposed to happen"

No. That's not what was supposed to happen.

Jockey

Richardson benched. No way you can put a quitter back on the field - especially when he is never going to be a good QB.

He's a poor man Justin Fields which ain't a good thing.

MU82

Quote from: Jockey on October 29, 2024, 01:57:57 PM
Richardson benched. No way you can put a quitter back on the field - especially when he is never going to be a good QB.

He's a poor man Justin Fields which ain't a good thing.

Still, that's pretty incredible. I like The Athletic's lead:

They told us there would be ups and downs. They told us there would be growing pains. They told us it would be worth the wait — or that they'd at least be patient enough to find out it wasn't.

But now, 18 months after drafting quarterback Anthony Richardson fourth overall, the Indianapolis Colts are pulling the plug on the player who was meant to put an end to the QB merry-go-round that has plagued this franchise ever since Andrew Luck retired in 2019.

On Tuesday afternoon, news broke that the Colts (4-4) were officially making the move to bench Richardson in favor of 39-year-old backup Joe Flacco. Flacco will now start for the Colts on Sunday night against the Minnesota Vikings (5-2).

It would have been understandable if Indianapolis eventually decided Richardson was not a part of its future. That's not the outcome anyone in Indianapolis wanted, but the reality is that not every highly drafted QB pans out. However, to do this just 10 games into Richardson's career is mind-bogglingly short-sighted.
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Jockey

I think it was more about him quitting on the team than being a bad QB.

Guys make huge sacrifices to get on the field when they are in pain and I don't think they are thrilled to be on the field with a guy who quit because he was tired.

JWags85

Quote from: Jockey on October 29, 2024, 01:57:57 PM
Richardson benched. No way you can put a quitter back on the field - especially when he is never going to be a good QB.

He's a poor man Justin Fields which ain't a good thing.

I actually think Richardson has higher upside.  I think he's got top 3 arm talent in the NFL, he's just exceptionally raw.  Totally agree you can't play a guy quitting like that, but it's just such a weird situation for a guy drafted for his massive upside but is a pure project.

GB Warrior

Colts had to do it for optics for the other guys in the locker room. But also this is what is best for him...he wasn't improving on the field and he needs the Jordan Love treatment more than any prospect in recent memory

Pakuni

#4895
Richardson's first 10 NFL games:
50.2 completion percentage, 1,535 yards, 12 TDs, 14 INTs, 68.8 QB rating

Josh Allen's first 10 NFL games:
52.2 completion percentage, 1,633 yards, 6 TDs, 9 INTs, 65.5 QB rating.

I get benching him over the tapping out thing, but not for his performance. The Colts knew what they were getting when they drafted him (an uber raw prospect with only 13 college starts) and knew, or should have known, they'd have to live with some major growing pains. Benching a guy everyone knew would struggle because he is, in fact, struggling seems shortsighted.
I'm not suggesting AR is the next Josh Allen, but when you draft a toosly project in the top 10, you have to live with some rough early going.

Jockey

Quote from: Pakuni on October 29, 2024, 07:04:33 PM
Richardson's first 10 NFL games:
50.2 completion percentage, 1,535 yards, 12 TDs, 14 INTs, 68.8 QB rating

Josh Allen's first 10 NFL games:
52.2 completion percentage, 1,633 yards, 6 TDs, 9 INTs, 65.5 QB rating.

I get benching him over the tapping out thing, but not for his performance. The Colts knew what they were getting when they drafted him (an uber raw prospect with only 13 college starts) and knew, or should have known, they'd have to live with some major growing pains. Benching a guy everyone knew would struggle because he is, in fact, struggling seems shortsighted.
I'm not suggesting AR is the next Josh Allen, but when you draft a toosly project in the top 10, you have to live with some rough early going.


I would put Allen in a group with Aikman and Peyton Manning.


Richardson is nowhere near that group despite the numbers.

JWags85

Quote from: Jockey on October 29, 2024, 08:22:51 PM

I would put Allen in a group with Aikman and Peyton Manning.


Richardson is nowhere near that group despite the numbers.

Based on what?

But I agree AR is a poor mans Josh Allen instead of a Justin Fields.  Thats a surprisingly good comp

MU82

"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

forgetful

Was a bit surprised that the Jets were in a primetime game again this week as it seems they have been there a lot this season.

They are tied with the most games (6).

What was kind of sad for Panthers fans (besides the fact that they are Panthers fans), is that they are the only team with Zero primetime games.

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