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The Sultan

Quote from: jesmu84 on October 28, 2024, 12:45:54 PM
It gets better

https://x.com/CourtneyRCronin/status/1850887271563588077?t=YxM0pU1KdRW3Ml-jIr4lyw&s=19


The Bears should have absolutely used one of their timeouts there.

My guess is that Edwards spying "in a way" was to make sure Daniels couldn't step up and heave a throw. But he failed.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

RJax55

Quote from: jesmu84 on October 28, 2024, 11:52:57 AM
Eberflus on the free 15 yard next-to-last play:

https://x.com/CourtneyRCronin/status/1850890695327805479

What's crazy is that at the end of the 1st half the Bears defense showed a coverage specifically designed to defend against that play. It was an alignment of rushing one, three positioned deep middle, with other defenders positioned tight to the sidelines in the throwing windows to funnel everything back to the middle. No clue why they didn't run it.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on October 28, 2024, 08:48:00 AM

First off, I don't think they will fire him. Especially if they finish above .500, which is still a distinct possibility.

Second, even having this discussion is exactly the reason why they should have just cleaned house last year. Because if you fire him now, this will be the third straight "quarterback of the future" who had to deal with a coaching change in year two of their career. This is why it never works!!

Compare and contrast this with Brett Favre, Aaron Rodgers, Jordan Love, Tom Brady, Brock Purdy, Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, CJ Stroud, etc. etc. etc. who all had multiple years to develop within an offense.

As I said earlier, compare this wil the Commanders who decided to make an organizational change from the top down, and had a plan for the coach and OC they wanted to hire to develop their new quarterback.
First, I don't think they will finish above .500 and made my prediction based upon that assumption. I agree they will retain him if he makes the playoffs. Depending how they finish the year, 9-8 will not see him return. The management has been luke warm on him for a year. They made him sweat out his job last year, so I don't see clear support from Poles and ownership.

Second, yes changing coaches for a new QB is bad business. Keeping with a dysfunctional and incompetent coach is even worse business. It is not fair to Caleb or the rest of the team. Continuity for the sake of continuity is lazy.

The Sultan

Quote from: WhiteTrash on October 28, 2024, 01:20:00 PM
First, I don't think they will finish above .500 and made my prediction based upon that assumption. I agree they will retain him if he makes the playoffs. Depending how they finish the year, 9-8 will not see him return. The management has been luke warm on him for a year. They made him sweat out his job last year, so I don't see clear support from Poles and ownership.

Second, yes changing coaches for a new QB is bad business. Keeping with a dysfunctional and incompetent coach is even worse business. It is not fair to Caleb or the rest of the team. Continuity for the sake of continuity is lazy.

Oh I agree. My point is this all could have been avoided. 
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

WhiteTrash

Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 28, 2024, 12:47:33 PM
Bears need to keep this staff intact.  Think they're starting to get it.
Yes, and Wojo needed 5 more years to get established at MU.  8-)

WhiteTrash

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on October 28, 2024, 01:21:38 PM
Oh I agree. My point is this all could have been avoided.
We agree on that too.

MuggsyB

Quote from: jesmu84 on October 28, 2024, 11:23:11 AM
Do you overreact this much in your personal/family/work life?

I have overreacted before, but not in this case.  Eberflus is 3-17 on the road.   I also believe overreacting when it comes to these situations is much better long term than being insouciant.  This Bears staff is a disaster by all rational accounts. 


tower912

#4859
Going to try some triple reverse fleaflicker
announcer jinx psychology here.

A season ago, the Lions fanbase was sure that Detroit would go out and get some DB help for the stretch run.   Detroit did little, picking over the waiver wire and practice squads for depth pieces that ultimately started and doomed the Lions.   Bad secondary play was their Achilles heel.
(Now for the reverse psychology part)   I think Detroit does the same this season on the DL front.   Instead of going out and getting an impact DE, they will pick over the practice squads and waiver wires and bet on their culture and coaching, rather than spending draft picks.

I honestly think this is what they will do.   I am trying to will my being wrong into existence.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Dish

Doubling down the day after and not holding yourself or the coaching staff responsible for anything yesterday is certainly a choice.

MU82

Not a good look.

Late in the third quarter, with his Indianapolis Colts in the red zone and trailing by 10, quarterback Anthony Richardson tapped his helmet, indicating to his sideline he needed to come out. Onlookers initially feared the young passer suffered another injury. After the game, Richardson admitted the real reason: He just got tired.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5877467/2024/10/27/anthony-richardson-colts-tired-comments/?

Though I guess give him points for honesty?
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

MuggsyB

#4862
Quote from: MU82 on October 27, 2024, 09:29:19 PM
The play before the Hail Mary - when the Bears simply gifted Washington 13 yards - was still more awful coaching.

Absolutely inexcusable.  And not debatable.  And Eberflus stated"  I'm not worried about that play?"  The response to that answer from Bears management should be "let me introduce you to the door".  :)

WhiteTrash

Quote from: DegenerateDish on October 28, 2024, 02:12:06 PM
Doubling down the day after and not holding yourself or the coaching staff responsible for anything yesterday is certainly a choice.
His job is in serious jeopardy. This is what happens we people feel threatened, they don't have the comfort and confidence to be accountable. Seen it many times.

Some of the comments from the players are revealing; yesterday may prove to be the straw that brakes the camel's back. (I think rightfully so, the multitudes of coaching errors have to have consequences, otherwise what message is Poles sending the players and other staff members?)

jesmu84

Quote from: WhiteTrash on October 28, 2024, 02:20:24 PM
His job is in serious jeopardy. This is what happens we people feel threatened, they don't have the comfort and confidence to be accountable. Seen it many times.

Some of the comments from the players are revealing; yesterday may prove to be the straw that brakes the camel's back. (I think rightfully so, the multitudes of coaching errors have to have consequences, otherwise what message is Poles sending the players and other staff members?)

https://x.com/AlexShapiroCHSN/status/1850949946549170432


Pakuni

Chicago Bears cornerback Tyrique Stevenson addressed the team Monday morning and apologized for not being in position for Washington's game-winning Hail Mary touchdown on Sunday.
"I apologized to the boys for letting them down," he said. "I let the moment get too big and it's something that can never happen again and won't ever happen again."


https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5880579/2024/10/28/matt-eberflus-tyrique-stevenson-hail-mary-comments-2/

WhiteTrash

#4867
Quote from: Pakuni on October 28, 2024, 03:04:30 PM
Chicago Bears cornerback Tyrique Stevenson addressed the team Monday morning and apologized for not being in position for Washington's game-winning Hail Mary touchdown on Sunday.
"I apologized to the boys for letting them down," he said. "I let the moment get too big and it's something that can never happen again and won't ever happen again."


https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5880579/2024/10/28/matt-eberflus-tyrique-stevenson-hail-mary-comments-2/
A man without an axe over his neck. Classy statement that we hope is followed up with action. If only Flus could be mature enough to do the same. The players have to be losing respect.

Dickthedribbler

Quote from: DegenerateDish on October 27, 2024, 07:55:25 PM

Just saw this as well. Under no circumstance should that be condoned, none whatsoever.

Ditka would have ran on the field and choked the guy.

Jockey

Quote from: jesmu84 on October 28, 2024, 11:23:11 AM
Do you overreact this much in your personal/family/work life?

Do you need to ask?  ;D

WhiteTrash

Quote from: Dickthedribbler on October 28, 2024, 03:15:28 PM
Ditka would have ran on the field and choked the guy.
That is not even a joke. He would have.

Uncle Rico

Guster is for Lovers

MU1in77

Quote from: MU82 on October 28, 2024, 02:12:31 PM
Not a good look.

Late in the third quarter, with his Indianapolis Colts in the red zone and trailing by 10, quarterback Anthony Richardson tapped his helmet, indicating to his sideline he needed to come out. Onlookers initially feared the young passer suffered another injury. After the game, Richardson admitted the real reason: He just got tired.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5877467/2024/10/27/anthony-richardson-colts-tired-comments/?

Though I guess give him points for honesty?
This made me laugh!

WhiteTrash

Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 28, 2024, 03:34:39 PM
Ditka was an idiot
He has forgotten more about football than all of Scoop knows about football.

DITKA > GOD
8-)

WhiteTrash

Watched Flus in his press conference.  I'm seriously worried how about how divorced from reality he is. He saw nothing, zero, ziltch wrong with the way the Bears finished the game.

I don't think I have ever heard such unanimous criticism of a coach from media, ex-coaches and ex-players like Flus has received. Nobody could even come up with a bizarre excuse for him, yet he thinks everything was good.

I thought after 24 hours he'd at least cop to a single regret, but no.

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