2024-25 NFL Thread

[forgetful]

Dak Prescott has historically had one of the strongest supporting offensive casts in the NFL, yet underperforms. $240M extension, $231M guaranteed, and looks terrible this season so far.

[MU82]

The play before the Hail Mary - when the Bears simply gifted Washington 13 yards - was still more awful coaching.

[forgetful]

The play before the Hail Mary - when the Bears simply gifted Washington 13 yards - was still more awful coaching.

Agreed. That was horrible.

I also think they should have put some offensive players back there to knock down the jump ball.

[Pakuni]

Agreed. That was horrible.

I also think they should have put some offensive players back there to knock down the jump ball.
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Remember when Belichick tried that?

As for the previous play, the Bears defense (not for nothing) likely was more concerned with preventing a 20-25 yard completion that would have put Washington on FG range.

[PGsHeroes32]

Just dont get why teams dont just enjoy the free win.

49ers likely will win no sweat

But on 3rd and 1 in the 4th up by 17 why are they running a QB roll out? Just dive forward. Get the first and kill clock.

Then Purdy instead of running/going down nearly lobs a pick 6 right to Dallas.

The game is literally over if you just run the ball.

[withoutbias]

Just dont get why teams dont just enjoy the free win.

49ers likely will win no sweat

But on 3rd and 1 in the 4th up by 17 why are they running a QB roll out? Just dive forward. Get the first and kill clock.

Then Purdy instead of running/going down nearly lobs a pick 6 right to Dallas.

The game is literally over if you just run the ball.

It's literally not.

[PGsHeroes32]

It's literally not.

It literally is

[BM1090]

Let's not go conpletely off the rails.  He should at minimum be suspended.  And if a single member of the Bears team taunts?  Or commits an asinine extracurricular penalty?
From here on out?  Severe consequences.

I'm all for the taunting. It's fun. But maybe get your ass back in position a few seconds before they snap the ball.

[PGsHeroes32]

See

The morons gain 7 yards every carry. Keep throwing. Might actually lose

[tower912]

PG, they can't all be morons.

[PGsHeroes32]

PG, they can't all be morons.

Would you please provide me where there is a set quota?

[WhiteTrash]

The one good thing to come from the Bears game was now Poles has a significant data point to justify making a coaching change after the season. Not sure he listens to the fans and media, but Flus has been universally called out for multiple poor coaching choices to the point where nobody is going to question him being dismissed. Yesterday was the worst case scenario for a coach who entered the season on the hot seat.

I have always felt that Flus was the guy you hire to get you through the rebuild then replace when the team is ready to compete. The Bears were never going to compete this year, so let Flus finish the year then put a highly competent staff in place.

[The Sultan]

The one good thing to come from the Bears game was now Poles has a significant data point to justify making a coaching change after the season. Not sure he listens to the fans and media, but Flus has been universally called out for multiple poor coaching choices to the point where nobody is going to question him being dismissed. Yesterday was the worst case scenario for a coach who entered the season on the hot seat.

I have always felt that Flus was the guy you hire to get you through the rebuild then replace when the team is ready to compete. The Bears were never going to compete this year, so let Flus finish the year then put a highly competent staff in place.

First off, I don't think they will fire him. Especially if they finish above .500, which is still a distinct possibility.

Second, even having this discussion is exactly the reason why they should have just cleaned house last year. Because if you fire him now, this will be the third straight "quarterback of the future" who had to deal with a coaching change in year two of their career. This is why it never works!!

Compare and contrast this with Brett Favre, Aaron Rodgers, Jordan Love, Tom Brady, Brock Purdy, Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, CJ Stroud, etc. etc. etc. who all had multiple years to develop within an offense.

As I said earlier, compare this wil the Commanders who decided to make an organizational change from the top down, and had a plan for the coach and OC they wanted to hire to develop their new quarterback.

[jesmu84]

First off, I don't think they will fire him. Especially if they finish above .500, which is still a distinct possibility.

Second, even having this discussion is exactly the reason why they should have just cleaned house last year. Because if you fire him now, this will be the third straight "quarterback of the future" who had to deal with a coaching change in year two of their career. This is why it never works!!

Compare and contrast this with Brett Favre, Aaron Rodgers, Jordan Love, Tom Brady, Brock Purdy, Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, CJ Stroud, etc. etc. etc. who all had multiple years to develop within an offense.

As I said earlier, compare this wil the Commanders who decided to make an organizational change from the top down, and had a plan for the coach and OC they wanted to hire to develop their new quarterback.

Yup.

This franchise is self-defeating without new ownership

[MuggsyB]

A friend of mine texted me thaf the last play of the game took 13 secs.  How in the world is that possible?  Also, the point about the play before the Hail Mary was a very good one.  WTF were they thinking just giving Washington 12+ yards or so?  This is a poorly coached, poorly disciplined, and poorly prepared football team.   And they're going to have a rude awakening once they play DET, GB, and Minny.  And no words can describe how inept their offensive line is, or the choice to put a 2nd sting center at fullback and hand him the ball on the 1 yard line.  Eberflus and Waldron need to be dismissed.  Period. 

[MuggsyB]

I just looked at the last 10 games for the Bears.  3-7 at best, 2-8 most likely, 1-9 possible. 

[jesmu84]

A friend of mine texted me thaf the last play of the game took 13 secs.  How in the world is that possible?  Also, the point about the play before the Hail Mary was a very good one.  WTF were they thinking just giving Washington 12+ yards or so?  This is a poorly coached, poorly disciplined, and poorly prepared football team.   And they're going to have a rude awakening once they play DET, GB, and Minny.  And no words can describe how inept their offensive line is, or the choice to put a 2nd sting center at fullback and hand him the ball on the 1 yard line.  Eberflus and Waldron need to be dismissed.  Period.

Do you overreact this much in your personal/family/work life?

[JWags85]

I have always felt that Flus was the guy you hire to get you through the rebuild then replace when the team is ready to compete. The Bears were never going to compete this year, so let Flus finish the year then put a highly competent staff in place.

I said it a few games into the season, but I actually do respect the culture that Flus has instilled.  This team fights and sticks around in games.  Their 4th quarter scoring differential is impressive and reflects that.  But his game management stinks and Waldron is an unmitigated disaster. 

Williams continues to grow and impress game by game.  I'm biased, but the way he played down the stretch, after a bad game and even worse playcalling for him, really impressed me and was very encouraging.  But he needs a HC and OC that can help him truly blossom and become a star, otherwise its just interrupted flashes of greatness.

[jesmu84]

I said it a few games into the season, but I actually do respect the culture that Flus has instilled.  This team fights and sticks around in games.  Their 4th quarter scoring differential is impressive and reflects that.  But his game management stinks and Waldron is an unmitigated disaster. 

Williams continues to grow and impress game by game.  I'm biased, but the way he played down the stretch, after a bad game and even worse playcalling for him, really impressed me and was very encouraging.  But he needs a HC and OC that can help him truly blossom and become a star, otherwise its just interrupted flashes of greatness.

Allegedly, per people who know football better than I, Waldron decided to go with a "slow pace" offense to keep commanders offense off the field more.

Bears offense, and Williams, looked much better on the last 2 drives when they went uptempo and Williams was calling plays at the line.

[jesmu84]

Eberflus on the free 15 yard next-to-last play:

https://x.com/CourtneyRCronin/status/1850890695327805479

[wadesworld]

https://awfulannouncing.com/nfl/cowboys-trevon-diggs-confronts-dallas-reporter.html

Haha this is hilarious.

[MU82]

Eberflus on the free 15 yard next-to-last play:

https://x.com/CourtneyRCronin/status/1850890695327805479

There are many reasons for the Bears to change coaches, and folks here have articulated many of them. But that answer to that question demonstrates a slap-my-head cluelessness that no NFL coach should possess.

[GB Warrior]

Eberflus on the free 15 yard next-to-last play:

https://x.com/CourtneyRCronin/status/1850890695327805479

What I loved is that Romo called it

[RJax55]

Allegedly, per people who know football better than I, Waldron decided to go with a "slow pace" offense to keep commanders offense off the field more.

Bears offense, and Williams, looked much better on the last 2 drives when they went uptempo and Williams was calling plays at the line.

Waldron's performance yesterday was a clinic in over-coaching. Things that all sound decent on paper, but terrible in reality. Here's a good example. The whole first-half scheme of motion the RBs and TEs to right to see the coverage, then have Williams call the play at the line. Good in theory, but it didn't account for the crowd noise and you could tell everyone was struggling to hear the play call. Doing so put even more pressure on a less than talented Oline and it showed.

Same goes on the tempo. The offense has only been good when going up-tempo. Slow down makes sense in theory, but if your offense is producing nothing but 3 & outs, tempo doesn't matter.

[jesmu84]

There are many reasons for the Bears to change coaches, and folks here have articulated many of them. But that answer to that question demonstrates a slap-my-head cluelessness that no NFL coach should possess.

It gets better

https://x.com/CourtneyRCronin/status/1850887271563588077?t=YxM0pU1KdRW3Ml-jIr4lyw&s=19

https://x.com/AdamHoge/status/1850921862315790527?t=DqrdpvZpXobELyGq7xwBLQ&s=19