2024-25 NFL Thread

[cheebs09]

And now they've traded for Adams

I wonder if Crosby will replace their kicker after he missed a few last night.

[Uncle Rico]

I wonder if Crosby will replace their kicker after he missed a few last night.

It was announced this morning he's doing a new morning show in Milwaukee

[PGsHeroes32]

Jets just can't accept it ain't gonna happen

[Uncle Rico]

Jets just can't accept it ain't gonna happen

Packers should offer them Rashan Gary

[Pakuni]

Jets and Browns fighting to perfect the "ruin an otherwise good team with a potentially successful HC by chaining themselves to an overpaid imploding QB" formula.  I wouldn't bet against Woody, he's got far more experience

I'm going to (gulp) defend the Browns here a bit, in that nobody predicted DeShaun imploding on the field the way he has the past couple of seasons. The only issue with him at the time was the off-field stuff, and the thought there was that he could miss some time, but it wouldn't derail his career or keep the Browns from becoming an immediate Super Bowl contender. Go back and read some of the initial trade grades and the consensus was "Yeah, the Browns overpaid, but they got an elite quarterback in his prime years."

NFL.com gave the Browns an A-, writing, "Last week's franchise-altering swap for Watson furnishes Cleveland with one of the game's most electric superstars under center."

https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-trade-grades-assessing-relocations-of-deshaun-watson-russell-wilson-davante-

CBS Sports have the Browns a B+, writing, "At just 26 years old, the Browns have solved their quarterback situation for the foreseeable future and now find themselves as a legit threat to contend for what would be their first-ever Super Bowl title."

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/deshaun-watson-trade-grades-texans-get-a-for-historic-haul-while-browns-land-star-qb/

The Sporting News gave the Browns an A-, writing, "For Cleveland, giving up the future considerations was worth it (along with the mega contract) as the team is capable of winning the Super Bowl with Watson, given its strengths in the running game, offensive line and the Myles Garret-led defense."

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/deshaun-watson-trade-grades-browns-texans/zll2boa0gj1r4vknxbwp6bso

That said, you're right that keeping Deshaun as the starter is the worst case scenario of sunk cost fallacy. I'm not sure they're much better with Jameis, but they probably couldn't be worse.

[Pakuni]

@DanPizzuta

"It's interesting the amount of power people think I have. Which I don't."
- Aaron Rodgers, six days ago.

[The Sultan]

The problem with the trade for Watson wasn't the trade, it was the contract the Browns gave him.

[The Sultan]

Jets just can't accept it ain't gonna happen

To be honest, I think the Jets are in a position where they have to go for it. A second or third round pick isn't that big of a price to pay for a guy like Adams who is definitely going to improve their receiving situation - especially in goal line situation.

Now, I don't think it will work, but I don't think the idea is a bad one.

[Uncle Rico]

To be honest, I think the Jets are in a position where they have to go for it. A second or third round pick isn't that big of a price to pay for a guy like Adams who is definitely going to improve their receiving situation - especially in goal line situation.

Unless they address the o-line and the QB understands he has to make quicker decisions, ain't gonna matter

[Jockey]

Pretty cool that Davante gets his wish to be closer to home.

[MU82]

To be honest, I think the Jets are in a position where they have to go for it. A second or third round pick isn't that big of a price to pay for a guy like Adams who is definitely going to improve their receiving situation - especially in goal line situation.

Now, I don't think it will work, but I don't think the idea is a bad one.

Agree.

Unless they address the o-line and the QB understands he has to make quicker decisions, ain't gonna matter

Also agree.

[Pakuni]

After losing out on Davante Adams, the Bills are trading for Amari Cooper.

[MUBurrow]

After losing out on Davante Adams, the Bills are trading for Amari Cooper.

And Cooper likely cost more draft capital.  A lot of that is probably because Cooper has almost no money due after most of his salary was converted to a signing bonus.  But it does suggest some combination of Davante being serious about only going to the Jets or Saints, or that the Raiders refused to throw in any money for a better return.

[Silkk the Shaka]

And Cooper likely cost more draft capital.  A lot of that is probably because Cooper has almost no money due after most of his salary was converted to a signing bonus.  But it does suggest some combination of Davante being serious about only going to the Jets or Saints, or that the Raiders refused to throw in any money for a better return.

He did not. Bills got the better deal.

[The Sultan]

It's going to be really interesting to see how both of these trades play out. Adams is historically better, but Cooper has a better QB throwing to him.

I also didn't realize that Cooper is younger...not much younger, but younger.

[Pakuni]

And Cooper likely cost more draft capital.  A lot of that is probably because Cooper has almost no money due after most of his salary was converted to a signing bonus.  But it does suggest some combination of Davante being serious about only going to the Jets or Saints, or that the Raiders refused to throw in any money for a better return.

Maybe.
There's a chance, albeit a small one, the Raiders' return turns into a 2nd.
More likely, it stays a 3rd, but the Jets' 3rd will be earlier than the Bills' 3rd.
The Bills-Browns pick swap is going to be pretty close to a wash. The Bills' pick likely is near the end of the 6th, while the Browns pick will be at the top of the 7th, maybe a 5 to 12 spot gap. In terms of value, there's not much difference between a late 6th and an early 7th.

[MUBurrow]

Maybe.
There's a chance, albeit not a small one, the Raiders' return turns into a 2nd.
More likely, it stays a 3rd, but the Jets' 3rd will be earlier than the Bills' 3rd.
The Bills-Browns pick swap is going to be pretty close to a wash. The Bills' pick likely is near the end of the 6th, while the Browns pick will be at the top of the 7th, maybe a 5 to 12 spot gap. In terms of value, there's not much difference between a late 6th and an early 7th.

Ahhhh yep - I don't know why I was thinking that the 3rd for Cooper would be better than the (likely) 3rd for Adams.  Good correction.

[Pakuni]

Ahhhh yep - I don't know why I was thinking that the 3rd for Cooper would be better than the (likely) 3rd for Adams.  Good correction.

And d'oh .... I meant to write "albeit a small one" regarding the chances of that pick becoming a second.

[The Sultan]

The Bills just released MVS. It could be the 2021 Packers all over again if the Jets wanted.

[wadesworld]

The Bills just released MVS. It could be the 2021 Packers all over again if the Jets wanted.

Might as well get Cobb and Bakhtiari while they're at it.

[Uncle Rico]

Might as well get Cobb and Bakhtiari while they're at it.

I'm assuming Bakh is next

[Pakuni]

Might as well get Cobb and Bakhtiari while they're at it.

Too bad the Vikings just signed Robert Tonyan off their practice squad.

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

Too bad the Vikings just signed Robert Tonyan off their practice squad.

Bills just released MVS though!

[Pakuni]

Well done, Bills Twitter.

https://x.com/BuffaloBills/status/1846292094563820028

[MU82]

I like the trades for both the Jets and the Bills - each desperately needed a playmaking WR. Given Cooper's contract situation, that looks like the better deal, and earlier in his career he always seemed to come up with clutch catches.