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Uncle Rico

Quote from: MU82 on October 05, 2024, 02:18:47 PM
How bad are the Bears that they're only 4-point home favorites over the Panthers?

They're terrible.  Not Jaguars bad, but pretty bad.  They have a decent defense but it's probably fraudulent
Guster is for Lovers

WhiteTrash

Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 05, 2024, 02:21:48 PM
They're terrible.  Not Jaguars bad, but pretty bad.  They have a decent defense but it's probably fraudulent
Truly one of the worst NFL teams in decades.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: WhiteTrash on October 05, 2024, 02:33:45 PM
Truly one of the worst NFL teams in decades.

They're not that bad but they're pretty bad
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MuggsyB

Quote from: WhiteTrash on October 05, 2024, 02:33:45 PM
Truly one of the worst NFL teams in decades.

I'm not sure they're quite that bad WT.  But you're correct, they aren't good.  And in the last three seasons they've been in the top 3 for easiest schedule.  They really don't have much of chance to beat good teams if their O-Line doesn't improve dramatically. 

WhiteTrash

Quote from: MuggsyB on October 05, 2024, 02:59:36 PM
I'm not sure they're quite that bad WT.  But you're correct, they aren't good.  And in the last three seasons they've been in the top 3 for easiest schedule.  They really don't have much of chance to beat good teams if their O-Line doesn't improve dramatically.
The O-Line will not improve until next year with new players. And another 4th place schedule.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: MU82 on October 05, 2024, 02:18:47 PM
How bad are the Bears that they're only 4-point home favorites over the Panthers?

Now that the Panthers have Bryce Young's backside firmly stapled to the bench and Andy Daulton at the helm they are very much improved!

Dish

Kicking the field goal to go up 6 late in the game is so stupid.

The Sultan

Quote from: DegenerateDish on October 06, 2024, 11:42:50 AM
Kicking the field goal to go up 6 late in the game is so stupid.

You go for it on 4th and 7 from the 23?
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Uncle Rico

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on October 06, 2024, 11:51:43 AM
You go for it on 4th and 7 from the 23?

Yeah, make the Jets have to score a TD
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Dish

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on October 06, 2024, 11:51:43 AM
You go for it on 4th and 7 from the 23?

In general, under 3 minutes with the ball up 3, I'd rather go for it on 4th down and 7, yes.

It worked out for the Vikings, but I believe the "get up 6" field goal can hurt you just as often as it helps you.

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: DegenerateDish on October 06, 2024, 12:07:34 PM
In general, under 3 minutes with the ball up 3, I'd rather go for it on 4th down and 7, yes.

It worked out for the Vikings, but I believe the "get up 6" field goal can hurt you just as often as it helps you.

Darnold does something stupid if they go for it there

Huge for the Vikes to win a game when the Darnold of the last 7 years showed up
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

Dish

The Roquan Smith trade has worked out well for both the Ravens and Bears. Gervon Dexter is on pace for an All Pro season.

Pakuni

Quote from: DegenerateDish on October 06, 2024, 12:07:34 PM
In general, under 3 minutes with the ball up 3, I'd rather go for it on 4th down and 7, yes.

It worked out for the Vikings, but I believe the "get up 6" field goal can hurt you just as often as it helps you.

FWIW, I ran the scenario through a team-specific 4th down probability calculator, and attempting the FG there gave them a 1.8% better chance of winning.

MuggsyB

Terrible play call by the Bears with all the momentum on a 4th and 1. 

jesmu84

Quote from: MuggsyB on October 06, 2024, 01:02:48 PM
Terrible play call by the Bears with all the momentum on a 4th and 1.

Going for it was a good choice

The play itself was too cute

MuggsyB

Quote from: jesmu84 on October 06, 2024, 01:05:22 PM
Going for it was a good choice

The play itself was too cute

Agreed.  But fortunately Carolina is our opponent.  :)

Dish

Quote from: Pakuni on October 06, 2024, 12:34:52 PM
FWIW, I ran the scenario through a team-specific 4th down probability calculator, and attempting the FG there gave them a 1.8% better chance of winning.

Fair enough.

MuggsyB

Carolina's NFL football team is a total abomination.

jesmu84

Do the bears have a real QB?

*Insert Morgan Freeman "hope" speech*

WhiteTrash

Quote from: jesmu84 on October 06, 2024, 01:30:03 PM
Do the bears have a real QB?

*Insert Morgan Freeman "hope" speech*
I think so, but not based off of a half versus Carolina.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: jesmu84 on October 06, 2024, 01:30:03 PM
Do the bears have a real QB?

*Insert Morgan Freeman "hope" speech*

He's met expectations
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Not all scoop users are created equal apparently

Quote from: DegenerateDish on October 06, 2024, 01:08:37 PM
Fair enough.

There's something to the mental aspect of NFL coaches playing to win vs playing to tie though.
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MU82

As I said ... 4 points seemed crazy low for a home team playing the pathetic Panthers.

I'm on the road and haven't been watching, thankfully.
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MuggsyB

Quote from: WhiteTrash on October 06, 2024, 01:32:21 PM
I think so, but not based off of a half versus Carolina.

There's nothing we can glean about Caleb from this game.  The Bears have played one quality opponent to this point. 

Dish

Quote from: MuggsyB on October 06, 2024, 01:51:54 PM
There's nothing we can glean about Caleb from this game.  The Bears have played one quality opponent to this point.

Sure you can. Each week you're looking for progression. His understanding of the speed of the game, field vision, when to scramble, etc.

All are moving in the right direction thus far. There's going to be ups and downs, enjoy the ups and hope he learns from the downs.

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