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Pakuni

Quote from: Dickthedribbler on September 12, 2024, 11:03:12 AM
You should add a third column to your cute little comparison chart. Entitle it "Police officers who were murdered along the roadside because a perp was able to reach under the seat or into the glove box and access a firearm and use it". You could even do a fourth column for situations where the car has tinted windows.

Right. Tyreek Hill was going to shoot multiple police officers on a busy road in broad daylight on his way to play an NFL game ... because he was trying to avoid a traffic ticket.
So much logic!

The Sultan

Quote from: Hards Alumni on September 12, 2024, 11:09:44 AM
They knew it was Tyreek because they had his plates and its a effing lambo.  Stop being a dumb ass.

And it was right outside the stadium!
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

forgetful

Quote from: Pakuni on September 12, 2024, 11:23:34 AM
Right. Tyreek Hill was going to shoot multiple police officers on a busy road in broad daylight on his way to play an NFL game ... because he was trying to avoid a traffic ticket.
So much logic!

And after he said something to the effect of "Just give me my ticket, bro, so I can go. I am going to be late. Do what you gotta do". Before rolling up the window (which he was entitled to do).

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: Dickthedribbler on September 12, 2024, 10:34:50 AM
He wasn't forcibly removed from his car for going 20 mph over the speed limit. He was forcibly removed from his car because he failed to honor a request/command made by the officers on the scene. Simple as that.

Should have complied.

If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

Uncle Rico

Guster is for Lovers

Jockey

Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on September 12, 2024, 11:49:14 AM
Should have complied.



A huge difference between a black man and white, hillbilly patriots.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on September 12, 2024, 03:09:56 AM

"If she hadn't gotten lippy we me, I wouldn't have had to hit her."

Disingenuous BS - the Sultan specialty.

The Sultan

Quote from: Lennys Tap on September 12, 2024, 03:58:44 PM
Disingenuous BS - the Sultan specialty.

It's actually a really good analogy. And that fact that you can't address it in any other way than a poor personal insult pretty much proves that.

So thanks.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Pakuni

Quote from: 4everwarriors on September 12, 2024, 09:25:02 AM
https://sports.yahoo.com/tyreek-hills-travel-speed-arrest-224547980.html



So, this is okay with y'all. Good to know that a lawless society resonates so well, hey?

That's rich, coming from a dentist.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: wadesworld on September 11, 2024, 09:04:24 PM
Still waiting to hear the legal justification for pulling Tyreek out of his car. Seems like Lenny has the answer. Looking forward to hearing it!

I never said there was. Why would you assume something so stupid when I'm on record multiple time saying the cops were wrong. As was Tyreek.

Lennys Tap

#3960
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on September 12, 2024, 04:01:27 PM
It's actually a really good analogy. And that fact that you can't address it in any other way than a poor personal insult pretty much proves that.

So thanks.

In your analogy what laws did the woman break? None. It's a nonsense analogy.


The Sultan

Quote from: Lennys Tap on September 12, 2024, 04:07:05 PM
In your analogy what laws did the woman break? None. It's a nonsense analogy from a nonsensical person.

Oh. So you think if a law is (allegedly) broken, that justifies a violent response? (And LOL because the law was a speeding violation...)
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Lennys Tap

#3962
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on September 12, 2024, 04:12:13 PM
Oh. So you think if a law is (allegedly) broken, that justifies a violent response? (And LOL because the law was a speeding violation...)

Of course I never said that. In your stupid example a woman "lips off to someone" and gets punched. Equating "lipping off" with speeding, being pulled over by police and then refusing (multiple times) to comply with the cop's instructions is dumb.

But did Tyreek's actions (while wrong) justify the cop's dragging him out of the car and cuffing him? As I've said multiple times in this thread - no.

So in addition to coming up with a ridiculous analogy you can't read. Hilarious.

The Sultan

Quote from: Lennys Tap on September 12, 2024, 04:29:57 PM
Of course I never said that. In your stupid example a woman "lips off to someone" and gets punched. Equating "lipping off" with speeding, being pulled over by police and then refusing (multiple times) to comply with the cop's instructions is dumb.

But did Tyreek's actions (while wrong) justify the cop's dragging him out of the car and cuffing him? As I've said multiple times in this thread - no.

So in addition to coming up with a ridiculous analogy you can't read. Hilarious.

Keep posting. Maybe you'll eventually make a logical point. 
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Pakuni

#3964
Quote from: Lennys Tap on September 12, 2024, 04:29:57 PM
But did Tyreek's actions (while wrong) justify the cop's dragging him out of the car and cuffing him? As I've said multiple times in this thread - no.

If you really believe this, why mention Tyreek's actions at all?
You could have just written that the cop's actions were wrong.

Uncle Rico

Disgusting to see Tyreek Hill on the field tonight.  No wonder the NFL is failing bigly
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Not all scoop users are created equal apparently

Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 12, 2024, 07:20:15 PM
Disgusting to see Tyreek Hill on the field tonight.  No wonder the NFL is failing bigly

I hope all the security kneeled for the anthem in honor of those brave cops getting mistreated
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Uncle Rico

Quote from: Plaque Lives Matter! on September 12, 2024, 07:22:52 PM
I hope all the security kneeled for the anthem in honor of those brave cops getting mistreated

Me, too. 
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CreightonWarrior

Is it just me or is the sound mix really weird in this game?

forgetful

Quote from: Lennys Tap on September 12, 2024, 04:29:57 PM
Of course I never said that. In your stupid example a woman "lips off to someone" and gets punched. Equating "lipping off" with speeding, being pulled over by police and then refusing (multiple times) to comply with the cop's instructions is dumb.

But did Tyreek's actions (while wrong) justify the cop's dragging him out of the car and cuffing him? As I've said multiple times in this thread - no.

So in addition to coming up with a ridiculous analogy you can't read. Hilarious.

Lenny, the criticism against your stance is because what you are doing is classic "Victim Blaming."

There was one victim here, Tyreek Hill. He was a victim of unnecessary violence. Nothing else needs to be addressed.

I think you agree on the only victim being Tyreek Hill.

The Sultan

Quote from: forgetful on September 12, 2024, 07:41:15 PM
Lenny, the criticism against your stance is because what you are doing is classic "Victim Blaming."

There was one victim here, Tyreek Hill. He was a victim of unnecessary violence. Nothing else needs to be addressed.

I think you agree on the only victim being Tyreek Hill.

There ya go. See Lenny, was that so hard?
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

WhiteTrash

Quote from: CreightonWarrior on September 12, 2024, 07:38:24 PM
Is it just me or is the sound mix really weird in this game?

I agree. I think it is always a little off for these streaming events.

CreightonWarrior

It seems like the have all stadium sound on low, then the play happens and they turn crowd noise up for a second for a reaction and then turn it back off again.

So strange.

Uncle Rico

Glad the Dolphins are losing.  Go woke, go broke
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JWags85

Quote from: forgetful on September 12, 2024, 07:41:15 PM
Lenny, the criticism against your stance is because what you are doing is classic "Victim Blaming."

There was one victim here, Tyreek Hill. He was a victim of unnecessary violence. Nothing else needs to be addressed.

I think you agree on the only victim being Tyreek Hill.

While I pretty much agree with you, I honestly don't mind calling out certain actions of the victim (in this case Hill) cause it further illuminates the dereliction of duty from the officer.

There can be a tendency to gloss over anything the victim does (or did) to nistead shine light on the excessive use of force or whatnot.  But I think its also relevant that being rude, or a bit of a snarky ass, or having an attitude during the stop (like some are saying Hill did) doesn't give the police any right to throw a tantrum and pull them out of the car, get physical, prove a point or whatever.

You can believe Hill acted like a dipshit (like some have) but also believe he did nothing technically wrong and didn't deserve any of what happened to him.  FWIW, I have no real opinion on his behavior during the stop, Ive gotten annoyed during 1-2 BS stops that happened to me in Milwaukee before, but I think he's handled himself VERY well during the game and after.

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