2024-25 NFL Thread

[Uncle Rico]

PFF Grades:

Justin Fields 75

Trevor Lawrence 79

[The Sultan]

Imagine having to live in Jacksonville.  Or Florida

And he apparently likes it. Questionable decision making like that isn't great in the quarterback role.

[tower912]

Ever escalating arms race.   Suddenly, Goff seems like a bargain.   How much do you think Jordan Love gets?   It will be impressive for a guy that many Packer fans thought was a bust for the first half of his first season as a starter.

[The Sultan]

That Lawrence contract is terrible. The old "we drafted him #1 overall, he's not a superstar, but damnit, if we pay him like one, maybe he'll turn into one."

And that's after they gave Christian Kirk that huge contract to be a completely mediocre receiver.

But who am I to disagree with the GM who hired both Jim Tomsula and Chip Kelly to coach the 49ers?

[Hards Alumni]

Ever escalating arms race.   Suddenly, Goff seems like a bargain.   How much do you think Jordan Love gets?   It will be impressive for a guy that many Packer fans thought was a bust for the first half of his first season as a starter.

Jordan will get 55/yr

It'll be heavily weighted towards incentives, and not guaranteed.

Unless I'm wrong.  I'm probably wrong.

[The Sultan]

The contract that will reset the market will be Dak's if he has a good year this year.

[tower912]

What is the standard for Dak?   

[The Sultan]

What is the standard for Dak?   

5 years / $300 million. Fully guaranteed.

[tower912]

I meant, what is a good season for Dak?  A playoff win?

[The Sultan]

I meant, what is a good season for Dak?  A playoff win?

If he has a year anything like last year statistically, even without a playoff win, he will get paid.  Maybe not even that. Since he can't be tagged, all it takes is one team to jump at him and start a bidding war. And think about all the teams that need quarterbacks - someone will do that unless he gets hurt.

The Cowboys really have to be banking on Trey Lance being something or else they have mismanaged this completely.

[Uncle Rico]

Jordan will get 55/yr

It'll be heavily weighted towards incentives, and not guaranteed.

Unless I'm wrong.  I'm probably wrong.

He'll get a lot of guaranteed money.  Risky proposition on a half-year star but that's the bed they made keeping 12 around

[Jockey]

What is the standard for Dak?

Losing in the playoffs. 

[Jockey]

He'll get a lot of guaranteed money.  Risky proposition on a half-year star but that's the bed they made keeping 12 around

I agree. At least $150 mil guaranteed.

[WhiteTrash]

5 years / $300 million. Fully guaranteed.

I soooo hope the Cowboys do that.

[MUBurrow]

The contract that will reset the market will be Dak's if he has a good year this year.

As a Dolpins fan, I'm dreading seeing the breaking news of Tua's deal.

[Hards Alumni]

5 years / $300 million. Fully guaranteed.

That's insane for a top 1/3 QB who is hitting 30 and hasn't won much.

[jficke13]

FWIW Ken Ingalls (the packers cap analyst guy on twitter who seems to have his fingers on the pulse of these sort of things) has predicted Love contract like this:

"With Trever Lawrence's deal coming in at $55M/year I suspect the deal for Jordan Love should land around $52M-$55M. Maybe nudges past $55M to $56M if that becomes a big sticking point for Love and/or his agency.

Talking about $60M/year seems crazy to me."

Also, said he thinks Dak is the QB who resets the market. I'm with everyone here in thinking the Cowboys are foolish to do so with him, but what do I know.

[Jockey]

FWIW Ken Ingalls (the packers cap analyst guy on twitter who seems to have his fingers on the pulse of these sort of things) has predicted Love contract like this:

"With Trever Lawrence's deal coming in at $55M/year I suspect the deal for Jordan Love should land around $52M-$55M. Maybe nudges past $55M to $56M if that becomes a big sticking point for Love and/or his agency.

Talking about $60M/year seems crazy to me."
 
Also, said he thinks Dak is the QB who resets the market. I'm with everyone here in thinking the Cowboys are foolish to do so with him, but what do I know.

What exactly has Dak done that he should reset the market?

Other than being America's QB, of course.

[The Sultan]

What exactly has Dak done that he should reset the market?

Other than being America's QB, of course.

He's been a good to very good quarterback who will hit unrestricted free agency at the age of 30.

[Pakuni]

What exactly has Dak done that he should reset the market?

Other than being America's QB, of course.

Been better than the last guy to reset the market, minus the rapiness.

[Jockey]

He's been a good to very good quarterback who will hit unrestricted free agency at the age of 30.

Are you saying that "good to very good' should reset the market?

My guess would be that you are just emphasizing the crazy that the QB market is right now. I don't see him being a better QB than Kirk Cousins who just signed for $45 mil per. Just younger.

[The Sultan]

Are you saying that "good to very good' should reset the market?

My guess would be that you are just emphasizing the crazy that the QB market is right now. I don't see him being a better QB than Kirk Cousins who just signed for $45 mil per. Just younger.

I'm saying that quarterbacks that young, at his skill level, rarely hit the unrestricted free market. He won't reset the market just because he is good, but because he's available. 

[Lennys Tap]

Imagine having to live in Jacksonville.  Or Florida

U.S. News and World Report #1 city to live: Naples, Florida

[The Sultan]

U.S. News and World Report #1 city to live: Naples, Florida

That says more about their rating system than anything else.

[Lennys Tap]

That says more about their rating system than anything else.

Meh, I'm OK with being the Princeton or MIT of US cities. I missed South Wayne in their rankings - where did they end up?