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2024-25 NFL Thread

Started by Herman Cain, July 08, 2023, 07:41:44 AM

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cheebs09

Jacobs had kind of a weird year last year starting with his holdout. He's much better than AJ Dillon.

With the McKinney signing, the Packers are better than they were yesterday. I'm not sure that their offense is worse either. Plus, RBs fall off a cliff quick.

Pakuni

Quote from: Jockey on March 12, 2024, 10:59:59 AM
So you're saying he's twice as valuable as Aaron Jones?  ;)

Receiver >>> Running back

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Oh God I hope they don't draft a running back in the second round. They did that with Dillon and got someone very pedestrian.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: DegenerateDish on March 12, 2024, 10:54:34 AM
Falcons are giving Mooney 3 years/$39M, with $26M (!!!!!) guaranteed.

Stunning.

Every season there is one desperate team that signs B-level free agents to A-level deals.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 12, 2024, 11:14:49 AM
Every season there is one desperate team that signs B-level free agents to A-level deals.

Makes the deal London gave to Gabe Davis palatable
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

Jockey

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 12, 2024, 11:05:29 AM
Oh God I hope they don't draft a running back in the second round. They did that with Dillon and got someone very pedestrian.

Yeah. I think Emmanuel Wilson can give at least AJ Dillon numbers and he was signed as an undrafted FA.

My concern is 2 years down the road (no way Jacobs is here for a 3rd year). I haven't looked at what guys are available in the draft - if there is even a guy worthy of a 2nd round pick. But, even at RB, if there is a guy that makes your team appreciably better (think Gibbs in Detroit), I think you have to go for it. It helps the team and is a cheap option for 4 years.

And if Gutey is anything - he's a guy who always looks to go younger. So I have no argument with what you're saying. I just have a bit of a different opinion.

cheebs09

I feel like it's not that hard to find a serviceable RB. The Chiefs haven't used a star RB to win. Ravens were one of the best teams with the Gus Bus at RB.

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: DegenerateDish on March 12, 2024, 10:54:34 AM
Falcons are giving Mooney 3 years/$39M, with $26M (!!!!!) guaranteed.

Stunning.

Will he drop more TDs than he catches there too?

Jockey

Quote from: cheebs09 on March 12, 2024, 11:58:26 AM
I feel like it's not that hard to find a serviceable RB. The Chiefs haven't used a star RB to win. Ravens were one of the best teams with the Gus Bus at RB.

Both have MVPs at QB. The Eagles and 49ers who both have SB aspirations think a running back who is way more than serviceable is important enough to pay for. That is more in line with my thinking.

I'll admit that part of it might be that a top RB is just way more fun to watch.

Pakuni

Derrick Henry to the Ravens, which seems to be one of the best fits in free agency so far.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: Pakuni on March 12, 2024, 12:09:52 PM
Derrick Henry to the Ravens, which seems to be one of the best fits in free agency so far.

Wonder if Monken will actually give him the ball during the playoffs.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

Jockey

Quote from: Pakuni on March 12, 2024, 12:09:52 PM
Derrick Henry to the Ravens, which seems to be one of the best fits in free agency so far.

Old. Slowing down. Production dropping. Lotsa money.

Does he have enough in the tank for another year?

Pakuni

Quote from: Jockey on March 12, 2024, 12:23:57 PM
Old. Slowing down. Production dropping. Lotsa money.

Does he have enough in the tank for another year?

It's only a two-year contract with $9 million guaranteed.
With the way the Ravens spread carries around, I think they'll be able to keep him fresh.

rocket surgeon

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 12, 2024, 11:05:29 AM
Oh God I hope they don't draft a running back in the second round. They did that with Dillon and got someone very pedestrian.

dillon was a goal line beast and filled in fairly well for aaron when he was injured

     BUT, he will be just fine
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: rocket surgeon on March 12, 2024, 12:55:11 PM
dillon was a goal line beast and filled in fairly well for aaron when he was injured

Early in his career, yes. But his yards per attempt and yards after broken tackle have decreased each year. The difference in yards per attempt between Jones and Dillion was about 1.5, which is pretty substantial. (This roughly normalizes offensive line play.)
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

jficke13

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 12, 2024, 01:09:06 PM
Early in his career, yes. But his yards per attempt and yards after broken tackle have decreased each year. The difference in yards per attempt between Jones and Dillion was about 1.5, which is pretty substantial. (This roughly normalizes offensive line play.)

DIllon never really materialized into the goal line threat that everyone expected given his frame. I had much higher hopes of how he could be a change of pace/6-minute-offense grinder, but it just never really came together. (Yes, I know this could be because for most of his career he played with 12 who hated 6-minute offense/first down grinding and so maybe he never got a good chance to put it together). He was pretty good at blitz pickups, and was a god locker room/teammate/community member. Shame it didn't work out, best of luck with a change of scenery.

Pakuni

Bears add Gerald Everett.
What was your favorite moment of the Robert Tonyan era in Chicago?

WhiteTrash

Quote from: Pakuni on March 12, 2024, 01:51:57 PM
Bears add Gerald Everett.
What was your favorite moment of the Robert Tonyan era in Chicago?
That's easy, ...... ummmm....... I've got nothing.  :D

Everett seems like a decent sign. Hard for me to grade players down the depth chart but I know they are important in a 17 game season.

Jockey

Quote from: Pakuni on March 12, 2024, 11:02:28 AM
Receiver >>> Running back

Yes...,

But there are way, way more good WRs than RBs.

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: Pakuni on March 12, 2024, 01:51:57 PM
Bears add Gerald Everett.
What was your favorite moment of the Robert Tonyan era in Chicago?


MUBurrow

Quote from: Pakuni on March 12, 2024, 01:51:57 PM
Bears add Gerald Everett.
What was your favorite moment of the Robert Tonyan era in Chicago?

I wonder what team Tonyan could end up with next

Pakuni


GB Warrior

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 12, 2024, 11:05:29 AM
Oh God I hope they don't draft a running back in the second round. They did that with Dillon and got someone very pedestrian.

What I learned there is you don't draft a FB in the 2nd round

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Pakuni on March 12, 2024, 04:52:12 PM
Bears sign Mr. Simone Biles.

This one is more upsetting than Jones to Minnesota, imo
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

Herman Cain

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