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2024-25 NFL Thread

Started by Herman Cain, July 08, 2023, 07:41:44 AM

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GB Warrior

Quote from: Jockey on March 11, 2024, 06:07:09 PM
Not correct. For his career, Jones has a higher yards per carry than Jacob's did in his best year.

Was quoting someone who thought it was referencing yards per catch. For the record, I'm not in on this signing. I think they are a wash if both are healthy, but that's been a big if for Jones. But hard to argue with value down the stretch.

The only place where I'm sure the Packers are on the right side of this is that I'm sure in years 3 and 4 of this deal, Jacobs will be a better player than Jones at age 33 & 34.

Elonsmusk

Does GB just say to Jones - We can't come to terms, let's let you test the free agency market to see what open market bears, and GB gets first chance to match with a similar deal (per a handshake agreement between Jones and GM?)

Just wonder about the above as Jones was so respected in that locker room and organization.

GB Warrior

No world in which Jones agrees to any handshake deal or it'd be done. Rosenhaus is smart enough to canvas the market before allowing his client to be cut.

My guess is he gets something like 2 years, $20M, $11M guaranteed with some per game roster bonuses for injury protection. 

MUBurrow

Quote from: Jockey on March 11, 2024, 05:39:39 PM
Everyone talks about how RBs are overvalued and then GB and Chicago do what they did today.

Don't get it.

Eh, none of these are bank breaking deals. I think this type of musical chairs market of short team deals is exactly what the teams want.  There is still a huge difference between very good RBs and meh RBs.  They are team dependent, but you also can't just plug in Patrick Taylor and not miss a beat.  The issue is that they just sort of sh!it and stop being productive, and that time often comes  in their 20s.  Low double digit million for short term deals with guys who have shown recent success is fine.



DegenerateDish

I'd be surprised if Aaron Jones isn't a Viking soon.

Pakuni



DegenerateDish

I understand what the Panthers are doing with their offensive line signings, but boy are they paying a heavy price to protect Young on the interior.

MU82

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GB Warrior

Quote from: DegenerateDish on March 11, 2024, 09:54:15 PM
I understand what the Panthers are doing with their offensive line signings, but boy are they paying a heavy price to protect Young on the interior.

Cost of doing business when your QB is 5'10". But it's hard when Robert Hunt is also their best WR

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

CreightonWarrior


The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: CreightonWarrior on March 12, 2024, 07:53:43 AM
Thats a dude I didn't want to see in a vikings jersey

Eh. I'm fine with it. He'll have his moments, but with Sam Darnold and that offensive line, they are only going so far.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on March 11, 2024, 09:16:45 PM
https://theathletic.com/5334215/2024/03/11/aaron-jones-packers-release/?source=user_shared_article

So he is getting a one-year, $7 million deal with the Vikings. After the Packers cut him after wanting to cut the $12 million he is due by "almost half."

This whole thing seems strange. So either the reporting is bad or the Packers were about right on his market valuation. 
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 12, 2024, 08:03:28 AM
Eh. I'm fine with it. He'll have his moments, but with Sam Darnold and that offensive line, they are only going so far.

Laughable if Darnold actually starts more than two games.

Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

Uncle Rico

The narrative he wants to "stick it to the Packers" is interesting.  Not sure signing a deal with the Vikes is the way to do it.  Rams, Niners, Eagles, teams that can win the conference would have made more sense to "stick it to the Packers".

But $7 million guaranteed for a year at his age works just fine
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

MUBurrow

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 12, 2024, 08:10:49 AM
So he is getting a one-year, $7 million deal with the Vikings. After the Packers cut him after wanting to cut the $12 million he is due by "almost half."

This whole thing seems strange. So either the reporting is bad or the Packers were about right on his market valuation.

Seems like he just wasn't willing to take another pay cut "for the Packers." His restructure cost him money from his original deal last year, and I would bet that his attitude, rightly or wrongly, was that his performance justified the Packers paying him under the current contract terms.  The Packers did the math and saw it instead as a series of one year deals under the banner of a multi year deal. 

Pakuni


GB Warrior


Pakuni

Quote from: Pakuni on March 11, 2024, 09:11:43 PM
Bengals releasing Joe Mixon.

Stop the presses.
Rather than releasing Mixon, the Bengals work out a deal to trade him to Houston.
Bengals signing Zack Moss to replace him (I guess?).

DegenerateDish

Falcons are giving Mooney 3 years/$39M, with $26M (!!!!!) guaranteed.

Stunning.

Jockey

AJ Dillon (who most Packers fans think was terrible last year because he was) averaged 3.4 YPC. Josh Jacobs averaged 3.5 YPC.

Admittedly, Jones had maybe 2 good years left - although I got Curtis Martin vibes - but I think GB is clearly a worse offensive team today than they were yesterday.

The good news is that I think they will draft 2 RBs next month - including one in the 2nd or 3rd round.

Jockey

Quote from: DegenerateDish on March 12, 2024, 10:54:34 AM
Falcons are giving Mooney 3 years/$39M, with $26M (!!!!!) guaranteed.

Stunning.

So you're saying he's twice as valuable as Aaron Jones?  ;)