2024-25 NFL Thread

[Uncle Rico]

True, but he was pretty solid last year. Similar to Mayfield and much better than Fields. For that salary though, the Broncos were expecting much more. He could be a great gap solution.

He's Aaron Rodgers lite, franchise killer

[Lennys Tap]

True, but he was pretty solid last year. Similar to Mayfield and much better than Fields. For that salary though, the Broncos were expecting much more. He could be a great gap solution.

Mayfield can throw the ball downfield. Wilson can't. His numbers were deceiving, lots of dinks. All you need to know is Payton benched him for a nobody and then cut him. Nobody would take him over Fields right now.

[MU82]

Wouldn't have Russell Wilson on my team.

Which, now that I say that, probably means Russell Wilson ends up on my team. 

[Pakuni]

Mayfield can throw the ball downfield. Wilson can't. His numbers were deceiving, lots of dinks. All you need to know is Payton benched him for a nobody and then cut him. Nobody would take him over Fields right now.

Their air yards per attempt was pretty much identical last year (7.3 to 7.2).

Mayfield attempted 75 passes of 20+  yards out of 566 total attempts (13 percent) and completed 23 of them (30.1 percent).
Russ attempted 65 passes of 20+ yards out of 447 total attempts (14.5 percent) and completed 21 of them (32.3 percent).
Really not much of a difference.

[Lennys Tap]

Their air yards per attempt was pretty much identical last year (7.3 to 7.2).

Mayfield attempted 75 passes of 20+  yards out of 566 total attempts (13 percent) and completed 23 of them (30.1 percent).
Russ attempted 65 passes of 20+ yards out of 447 total attempts (14.5 percent) and completed 21 of them (32.3 percent).
Really not much of a difference.

I'll admit I didn't see a lot of either of them. But I watched Mayfield in the playoffs and he showed me both arm strength and accuracy - something very much lacking in Wilson's game the 3 or so times I saw him play.

It'll be interesting to see what each guy gets as a free agent.

[JWags85]

I think the biggest difference is Mayfield is still just 28 years old and coming off of a resurgent rebound season after a season and change of injuries and organizational chaos.

Meanwhile, Wilson is 35 and on a steady decline for a few seasons.  I would think the markets for them will be quite different.

[GB Warrior]

I think the biggest difference is Mayfield is still just 28 years old and coming off of a resurgent rebound season after a season and change of injuries and organizational chaos.

Meanwhile, Wilson is 35 and on a steady decline for a few seasons.  I would think the markets for them will be quite different.

Getting to pay Russ the vets min because of the offset clause in his Broncos contract might cloud the judgement of more than a few execs.

It shouldn't, though - he looks washed and I wouldn't want his crew around a young team and QB

[Pakuni]

I think the biggest difference is Mayfield is still just 28 years old and coming off of a resurgent rebound season after a season and change of injuries and organizational chaos.

Meanwhile, Wilson is 35 and on a steady decline for a few seasons.  I would think the markets for them will be quite different.

Don't disagree, though I suspect Baler's market is Tampa.
I do think that Russ' terrible play from 2022 is burned into memories to the extent his much better play last year is getting overlooked.

[WhiteTrash]

I think the biggest difference is Mayfield is still just 28 years old and coming off of a resurgent rebound season after a season and change of injuries and organizational chaos.

Meanwhile, Wilson is 35 and on a steady decline for a few seasons.  I would think the markets for them will be quite different.

I agree that age is a big factor in what each would receive. Plus Wilson is going to make $40M next year even if he doesn't get picked up. He will most likely be happy with a team friendly deal, possibly even vet minimum.

My whole point was not to argue Wilson is a better addition to a team than Mayfield, but that he not completely washed up. He had a good (not very good) year. The perception was he crapped the bed again like 2022, but not the case.   

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

I would be very wary of bringing in Wilson thinking he would be a solid veteran back up. Former quarterbacks with his type of resume generally don't serve well in that role.

[Pakuni]

I would be very wary of bringing in Wilson thinking he would be a solid veteran back up. Former quarterbacks with his type of resume generally don't serve well in that role.

And I don't think Russ is going to sign anywhere as a backup. If he can't find a starting gig before camp, he'll sit out until a team loses its starter to injury and sign there (a la Joe Flacco or Miami Dolphin Jay Cutler).

[Lennys Tap]

And I don't think Russ is going to sign anywhere as a backup. If he can't find a starting gig before camp, he'll sit out until a team loses its starter to injury and sign there (a la Joe Flacco or Miami Dolphin Jay Cutler).

Rumor is he's headed to Pittsburgh. If true, he won't be a backup. Trubisky, Pickett and Rudolph are really bad.

[tower912]

A week ago, rumors had Fields going to Pittsburgh.

[Uncle Rico]

A week ago, rumors had Fields going to Pittsburg.

Jaguars should sign him and get some sucker to trade for Lawrence

[Pakuni]

A week ago, rumors had Fields going to Pittsburg.

Tannehill to Pittsburgh for an Arthur Smith reunion seems so obvious

[Jockey]

I think Tannehill is on the veteran backup path in his career.

[Herman Cain]

https://nypost.com/2024/03/05/sports/bears-have-a-problem-with-justin-fields-trade-market/amp/

[WhiteTrash]

https://nypost.com/2024/03/05/sports/bears-have-a-problem-with-justin-fields-trade-market/amp/

NFL GMs and scouts are not as smart as some Bears fans.

[Uncle Rico]

https://nypost.com/2024/03/05/sports/bears-have-a-problem-with-justin-fields-trade-market/amp/

Jaguars should jump in on him and upgrade their qb room

[JWags85]

I think Tannehill is on the veteran backup path in his career.

Yea, agree there.  He had the really nice comeback in 2019 and then 2-3 nice years in Tennessee.  But he's been on the downslope and he'll be 36 by Opening Weekend.  The odds of him suddenly bouncing back AGAIN to be a productive starter are basically nil.  He's a smart dude and solid locker room guy, so he makes sense to be a backup for a couple more years if he wants to, but that's about it.

[Jockey]

https://nypost.com/2024/03/05/sports/bears-have-a-problem-with-justin-fields-trade-market/amp/

There is no problem with the trade market. Crappy QBs don't have a lot of value. I'll still be surprised if he fetches more than a 3rd.

[WhiteTrash]

There is no problem with the trade market. Crappy QBs don't have a lot of value. I'll still be surprised if he fetches more than a 3rd.

It is eye opening to see the perceived value of Fields from evaluating him on a few, fresh in our memories, plays per game a few months ago to evaluating him on the entire body of work now.

I was guilty as anyone thinking two 2nds would be the return a few months ago.

[Jockey]

It is eye opening to see the perceived value of Fields from evaluating him on a few, fresh in our memories, plays per game a few months ago to evaluating him on the entire body of work now.

I was guilty as anyone thinking two 2nds would be the return a few months ago.

I think one of the issues is that there are a lot of new coaches on teams that need QBs.  Do they want to put their head coaching future in the hands of Justin Fields?

[tower912]

No one talking about Eberflus and LaFleur sitting next to each other at the MU game?!?   Come on, conspiracy theorists!   Raise your game!

[Uncle Rico]

No one talking about Eberflus and LaFleur sitting next to each other at the MU game?!?   Come on, conspiracy theorists!   Raise your game!

LaFleur can hire Everflus as an assistant next year