2024-25 NFL Thread

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

The fact Getsy got OC interviews with at least three teams and landed a job may indicate that the NFL  views the Bears' crappy passing game as more of a quarterback problem than a coaching problem.
Maybe Getsy is indeed terrible, but it's hard to implement an NFL-level passing scheme with a QB who can't read half the field or throw an intermediate route.

The history of the NFL never hiring people who failed elsewhere suggests this is accurate.

[WhiteTrash]

What if the Raiders trade for Fields? That could be fun.

[Pakuni]

The history of the NFL never hiring people who failed elsewhere suggests this is accurate.

Yeah, that was totally my point.

[cheebs09]

Aaron Rodgers has made a lot of mediocre coaches a lot of money. The fact Hackett has a job still is 100% to keep Rodgers happy. Jets could save some money by just naming Rodgers OC.

[WhiteTrash]

Aaron Rodgers has made a lot of mediocre coaches a lot of money. The fact Hackett has a job still is 100% to keep Rodgers happy. Jets could save some money by just naming Rodgers OC.

McCarthy says hi and thank you.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

McCarthy isn't a bad coach. He just generally has a high floor without the high ceiling.

[cheebs09]

McCarthy isn't a bad coach. He just generally has a high floor without the high ceiling.

I also think there was a time he was a pretty innovative offensive coach, but that time passed and he never really adjusted.

[Uncle Rico]

I also think there was a time he was a pretty innovative offensive coach, but that time passed and he never really adjusted.

He's been better in Dallas than he was at the end of his time in Green Bay with regards to scheming things up. 

When it ended in GB, he couldn't get mismatches or the WR schemed open.  TE usage has been better.  Just think Dallas is one of those organizations where things don't completely turn until the structure upstairs changes

[GB Warrior]

With the passage of time, I'm hoping we all learned the end of the McCarthy era in GB wasn't solely on Mike...

[jficke13]

With the passage of time, I'm hoping we all learned the end of the McCarthy era in GB wasn't solely on Mike...

I thought it was pretty obvious to everyone with eyes that 12 tanked McCarthy's last season, as evidenced by his abrupt return to MVP form under LeFleur.

[cheebs09]

I thought it was pretty obvious to everyone with eyes that 12 tanked McCarthy's last season, as evidenced by his abrupt return to MVP form under LeFleur.

I think a new voice and them drafting his replacement had more to do with Rodgers' resurgence. Similar to Favre finding it again when McCarthy was hired.

[Herman Cain]

https://www.si.com/fannation/bringmethesports/vikings/kirk-cousins-i-would-love-to-know-where-im-going

[MU82]

Ejiro Evero officially staying with Panthers as DC.

Not a huge surprise, as he's under contract and the Panthers didn't give other teams permission to pursue him for a lateral move.

[Uncle Rico]

Ejiro Evero officially staying with Panthers as DC.

Not a huge surprise, as he's under contract and the Panthers didn't give other teams permission to pursue him for a lateral move.

That's a good win for them. 

[DegenerateDish]

The Athletic article on Ben Johnson turning down Washington is either very self aware of Johnson knowing he should never be a head coach or somewhat damning for his future prospects of getting a head coaching job.

[Pakuni]

Steve Belichick lands the U of Washington defensive coordinator job.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

The NFL is so strange sometimes.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2024/02/06/mike-vrabel-physical-size-turned-teams-off-hiring-him-report\\

"I don't think there was a fit for him. I don't think he sat in front of any owner who thought that his style was going to work for what they were looking for," said Russini.

"I had a GM at the Senior Bowl who mentioned to me Vrabel's physical build, that he's a very large human being and can be very intimidating to people in an organization that are going to be part of these decisions. And that is a factor."

[Pakuni]

The NFL is so strange sometimes.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2024/02/06/mike-vrabel-physical-size-turned-teams-off-hiring-him-report\\

"I don't think there was a fit for him. I don't think he sat in front of any owner who thought that his style was going to work for what they were looking for," said Russini.

"I had a GM at the Senior Bowl who mentioned to me Vrabel's physical build, that he's a very large human being and can be very intimidating to people in an organization that are going to be part of these decisions. And that is a factor."

It's not like Dan Campbell, Jerod Mayo, DeMeco Ryans or even Antonio Pierce are midgets.

[JWags85]

Dan Quinn and the Commanders adding Kingsbury as OC adds an interesting wrinkle to the Caleb Williams sweepstakes.  Could be a coincidence, but for a seemingly finicky QB prospect, his college OC going to his hometown team that happens to have a high draft pick, capital to further trade up, and very much needs a QB is intriguing...

Related, another offseason of people trumpeting slanted nonsense about Eric Bieniemy.  After a season in which his offense in Washington not only faltered, but was uninventive and stubborn, and which his players publicly complained about him early in the season...and which 3 African Americans (and a Latino) were hired as HCs along with half a dozen African Americans were hired as coordinators....people still claim he's being railroaded solely on the basis of race.

Nobody with a brain is claiming there aren't racial issues in the NFL and that the well meaning Rooney Rule is often cheaply circumvented, but maybe, just maybe, Bieniemy is no longer the best use case to champion.  The Commanders stunk and had limited weapons, but the offense literally regressed but yet now he should still get HC looks regardless 

It's not like Dan Campbell, Jerod Mayo, DeMeco Ryans or even Antonio Pierce are midgets.

Exactly.  And Campbell is even bigger than Vrabel and even more big, over caffI have a toothacheted meathead forward stereotype.  Hey, at least it wasn't a terribly hidden dog whistle this time?

[WhiteTrash]

Dan Quinn and the Commanders adding Kingsbury as OC adds an interesting wrinkle to the Caleb Williams sweepstakes.  Could be a coincidence, but for a seemingly finicky QB prospect, his college OC going to his hometown team that happens to have a high draft pick, capital to further trade up, and very much needs a QB is intriguing...

It is very intriguing. I have my doubts that Washington will move the draft capital they just added to for a QB. Washington is one team that you could argue should be trading down for more picks.

If Williams is such a slam dunk pick that Washington will bet the farm on him, chance are the Bears will feel the same and keep the pick.

[jesmu84]

Dan Quinn and the Commanders adding Kingsbury as OC adds an interesting wrinkle to the Caleb Williams sweepstakes.  Could be a coincidence, but for a seemingly finicky QB prospect, his college OC going to his hometown team that happens to have a high draft pick, capital to further trade up, and very much needs a QB is intriguing...

Related, another offseason of people trumpeting slanted nonsense about Eric Bieniemy.  After a season in which his offense in Washington not only faltered, but was uninventive and stubborn, and which his players publicly complained about him early in the season...and which 3 African Americans (and a Latino) were hired as HCs along with half a dozen African Americans were hired as coordinators....people still claim he's being railroaded solely on the basis of race.

Nobody with a brain is claiming there aren't racial issues in the NFL and that the well meaning Rooney Rule is often cheaply circumvented, but maybe, just maybe, Bieniemy is no longer the best use case to champion.  The Commanders stunk and had limited weapons, but the offense literally regressed but yet now he should still get HC looks regardless 

Exactly.  And Campbell is even bigger than Vrabel and even more big, over caffI have a toothacheted meathead forward stereotype.  Hey, at least it wasn't a terribly hidden dog whistle this time?

If I'm the bears and I really like Williams, it's gonna take a Hershel walker/Ricky Williams type trade (multiple 1s and 2s) + a player like Payne to get me to move.

Tanking your franchise to move up 1 spot seems shortsighted.

[GB Warrior]

It is very intriguing. I have my doubts that Washington will move the draft capital they just added to for a QB. Washington is one team that you could argue should be trading down for more picks.

If Williams is such a slam dunk pick that Washington will bet the farm on him, chance are the Bears will feel the same and keep the pick.

Williams doesn't have a lot of leverage, but he could be a real pain in the ass for the Bears if he chose to be

[WhiteTrash]

Williams doesn't have a lot of leverage, but he could be a real pain in the ass for the Bears if he chose to be

You could argue about if he has any leverage, but it doesn't matter. He has said he would be happy to go to Chicago. He is looking for a big market team and Chicago is far from your typical #1 pick quality of team.

When Cowherd floated the idea that he didn't want Chicago, Caleb shot it down the very same day. Caleb doesn't want even the rumors of not wanting to Chicago out there. He completely de-leveraged any perceived leverage.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

You could argue about if he has any leverage, but it doesn't matter. He has said he would be happy to go to Chicago. He is looking for a big market team and Chicago is far from your typical #1 pick quality of team.

I have no idea what this even means.

[WhiteTrash]

I have no idea what this even means.

Most teams with the #1 pick are 1-3 win teams.