2024-25 NFL Thread

[Dish]

Isn't that why they brought Warren on board?

McCaskey's opinion > Warren's opinion

[The Sultan]

Right but does the football side report to him?

[Pakuni]

Right but does the football side report to him?

I imagine they do, but I don't think he makes football decisions. He probably would sign off on any major decisions, but he's not giving input on trades or the coaching decision.

[Jockey]

Honestly, if they beat Green Bay, I'm scared how "confident" the McCaskey's would be. The amount of stupid meatball reactions and stuff that would come out of a Bears victory could be very detrimental long term.

I understand what you are saying. If they beat GB, they will probably stay with the status quo. Nobody gets fired. Everything is great.

[WhiteTrash]

I understand what you are saying. If they beat GB, they will probably stay with the status quo. Nobody gets fired. Everything is great.

I don't have any special information about the Bears but I'd be very surprised if Getsy comes back. If Fields comes back, I don't think he wants to work with Getsy (comments early this season). If the move from Fields, I don't think they would trust a #1 pick QB with Getsy.

IMHO, Getsy will be the Jets' QB coach next year.

[Lennys Tap]

I couldn't find information on the odds of succeeding on a 2-point conversion from the 7-yard line, but between 2013 and 2022, a surprisingly high 43% of attempts on 4th-and-7 were successful.

Even if you say it's half that on 4th-and-goal from the 7 because there's less field to work with, the defense is more focused, etc, that's still 20%+ ... better than I'd have thought.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/nfl-fourth-down-conversion-chart-rate-by-distance/vofkeub6xwms6imajxqkfipp

We can debate whether or not it was wise to go for the conversion from the 7, though as tower says Campbell knows his team. As it turned out, Detroit had a free play because the Cowboys went offside. And trying from the 2 and the 3 1/2 yard lines were no-brainers. Had the ref not jobbed the Lions on the first one, the 7-yard try would have never happened.

Half of 43% is fair, so maybe 21.5%. Their chances of winning in OT as a slight underdog are about 45%. .45 x .95 (chance of making the FG) = .4275 or 42.75%. So by "playing to win" he cut his chances to win in half. #Dumb

[MU82]

Half of 43% is fair, so maybe 21.5%. Their chances of winning in OT as a slight underdog are about 45%. .45 x .95 (chance of making the FG) = .4275 or 42.75%. So by "playing to win" he cut his chances to win in half. #Dumb

As I said, it's certainly arguable whether going for it from the 7 was wise or dumb. Indeed, you're arguing "dumb." But that play was negated by an offside penalty anyway. He also went from 2 and was robbed, and he went from 3.5, which you've already said was OK.

So congrats?

[Herman Cain]

McCaskey's opinion > Warren's opinion

DegenerateDish:
What do you estimate The Bears could receive in trade value for Justin Fields

[Uncle Rico]

DegenerateDish:
What do you estimate The Bears could receive in trade value for Justin Fields

Not as much as the Packers could get for Jordan Love

[tower912]

So not even a used jock strap?

[Uncle Rico]

So not even a used jock strap?

The amount of used jock straps the professional teams of Wisconsin could have is enough to start a new currency

[WhiteTrash]

DegenerateDish:
What do you estimate The Bears could receive in trade value for Justin Fields

Guessing 2 - 2nd round picks.

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

Guessing 2 - 2nd round picks.

Bijan and a second

[wadesworld]

Bijan and a second

Guessing 2 - 2nd round picks.

I hope those are teal.

[The Sultan]

Yeah I'm not understanding the idea that the Bears should move on from Fields, yet will get two seconds for him. They'd get like a fourth or fifth round pick at best.

[Lennys Tap]

Yeah I'm not understanding the idea that the Bears should move on from Fields, yet will get two seconds for him. They'd get like a fourth or fifth round pick at best.

I doubt they'll trade him but I think you're underestimating what Fields would bring.

[The Sultan]

Then why would the Bears trade him?

[Dr. Blackheart]

Isn't that why they brought Warren on board?

Warren is totally in charge

[wadesworld]

Who's giving up any seconds, let alone 2, for the right to pay Justin Fields boatloads of money?

[MU82]

Yeah I'm not understanding the idea that the Bears should move on from Fields, yet will get two seconds for him. They'd get like a fourth or fifth round pick at best.

Yeah, the idiot Panthers aren't in the QB market, so the Bears can't expect a Darnold-sized haul for Fields.

[Uncle Rico]

Yeah, the idiot Panthers aren't in the QB market, so the Bears can't expect a Darnold-sized haul for Fields.

Plus, what team is willing to give up a haul for Fields with Chicago holding the first overall pick?  I think it's more likely the Bears get a haul for that pick from a QB desperate team.

[wadesworld]

Plus, what team is willing to give up a haul for Fields with Chicago holding the first overall pick?  I think it's more likely the Bears get a haul for that pick from a QB desperate team.

Correct.

[Lennys Tap]

Then why would the Bears trade him?

In your scenario (a 4th or 5th), they definitely won't.

If a team out there thinks he's worth a couple of 2s (what I've read), they might.

You trade a guy if someone values him more than you do - not the other way around.

[MU82]

In your scenario (a 4th or 5th), they definitely won't.

If a team out there thinks he's worth a couple of 2s (what I've read), they might.

You trade a guy if someone values him more than you do - not the other way around.

Well, if you bring in another QB and you don't want to pay Fields, you take the best offer you can get for him. If you decide it's time to move on, you can't just hold onto Fields and pay him to sit around.

[The Sultan]

Well, if you bring in another QB and you don't want to pay Fields, you take the best offer you can get for him. If you decide it's time to move on, you can't just hold onto Fields and pay him to sit around.

Exactly. They aren't going to draft the next "quarterback of the future" and have the previous one stick around.

If the Bears make the decision to draft Williams, they'll get what they can for Fields.