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The Sultan

Quote from: MuggsyB on December 30, 2023, 10:21:50 PM
You do it 3 times?  And the 2nd time from tbe 7?

Guy who preaches "attack" shrivels up like a pu$$y....
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MuggsyB

Quote from: tower912 on December 30, 2023, 10:23:03 PM
Dan Campbell is who he is.   He plays to win.   No one in that locker room will question that decision.

So they don't kick FG's or XP's? 

MuggsyB

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on December 30, 2023, 10:24:19 PM
Guy who preaches "attack" shrivels up like a pu$$y....

LOL.  it's called dealing with reality.  It has nothing to do with being in attack mode on the basketball court. 

The Sultan

Quote from: MuggsyB on December 30, 2023, 10:25:38 PM
LOL.  it's called dealing with reality.  It has nothing to do with being in attack mode on the basketball court. 

Ah. So when the going gets tough, you aren't true to your posts.

Shocking.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MuggsyB

#2004
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on December 30, 2023, 10:27:21 PM
Ah. So when the going gets tough, you aren't true to your posts.

Shocking.

Now you're just intentionally being moronic Fluffy.  It analogous to Zach Edey having a dunk under the basket with 2 secs left to put the game into overtime, and instead passing the ball to a guarded perimeter player to shoot a 3 for the win

The Sultan

Quote from: MuggsyB on December 30, 2023, 10:31:44 PM
Now you're just intentionally being moronic Fluffy.  It analogous to Zach Edey having a dunk under the basket with 2 secs left to put the game into overtime, and 
instead passing the ball to a guarded perimeter player to shoot a 3 for the win

So when you preach "attack," you're just being a hypocrite. Shocking.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Dish

That was a cluster eff by both teams/coaches.

The Sultan

#2007
Wasn't the reason the flag was tossed because the OL was covered?  They are treating it like a reporting issue, but I think it was a line up issue.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

HutchwasClutch

Quote from: tower912 on December 30, 2023, 10:23:03 PM
Dan Campbell is who he is.   He plays to win.   No one in that locker room will question that decision.

Ok, whatever.  That doesn't make it the right or smart decision. 

HutchwasClutch

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on December 30, 2023, 10:34:08 PM
Wasn't the reason the flag was tossed because the OL was covered?  They are treating it like a reporting issue, but I think it was a line up issue.

No, it was Decker's failure to report.  If it had been a line up / formation issue, it wouldn't have been called illegal touching. 

The Sultan

#2010
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on December 30, 2023, 10:51:23 PM
No, it was Decker's failure to report.  If it had been a line up / formation issue, it wouldn't have been called illegal touching. 


Yes it would have because covering him would have made him ineligible.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Dish

Brad Allen and his crew have had a REALLY rough season (not just tonight). He should not work a playoff game.

Hards Alumni

Terrible call ruined an otherwise terrible game!

Unless you had Cee Dee Lamb on your fantasy team.

HutchwasClutch

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on December 30, 2023, 10:54:07 PM

Yes it would have because covering him would have made him ineligible.

He wasn't covered lining up.  He was the furthest lineman outside.  There was a slot receiver lined up to his left but that guy obviously wouldn't be considered part of the lineman. 

He didn't report according to the officials. That's why it was called back.

The Sultan

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on December 30, 2023, 11:37:18 PM
He wasn't covered lining up.  He was the furthest lineman outside.  There was a slot receiver lined up to his left but that guy obviously wouldn't be considered part of the lineman. 

He didn't report according to the officials. That's why it was called back.

I stand corrected
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Uncle Rico

Guster is for Lovers

tower912

Goff grabbed Decker by the shoulder and directed him to the ref. (video evidence) Decker walked over to the ref (video evidence), knowing the play call and the ball was coming to him, and didn't report.   

If you believe the official.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MUBurrow

Quote from: tower912 on December 31, 2023, 08:22:23 AM
Goff grabbed Decker by the shoulder and directed him to the ref. (video evidence) Decker walked over to the ref (video evidence), knowing the play call and the ball was coming to him, and didn't report.   

If you believe the official.

Seems to me that Decker and Skipper walked over to the ref, Decker said "report", ref made note of Skippers number and relayed Skippers number to the Cowboys defense, and then called the penalty on Decker.

tower912

The video shows Sewell and Decker walking up to the official.    The official starts running toward the line and Skipper comes running into the frame.    Pretty obvious the official got the number wrong.   

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/taylor-decker-on-lions-controversial-two-point-conversion-penalty-i-did-exactly-what-coach-told-me-to-do/
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

The Sultan

Apparently the referee clearly stated that #70 reported eligible over his mic. (Which is what normally happens in that situation.)  If that's the case, Detroit didn't notice his error.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

tower912

The second int and the third 2 pt conversion attempt were the exact same mistaken read and bad throw by Goff, which highlights the underlying, whispered worry about him. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

tower912

Kind of fun.  I have raised my 17 year old on the idea that the Lions will find a way to lose that no one has ever seen before.   Even in this enjoyable season, it is good to know they still have that in them.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

HutchwasClutch

Could Decker and the Lions have looked more like imbeciles?  First, Goff has to tell him to go and report himself to the ref.  Then Sewell walks over with him to the ref.  Then Skipper runs in at the last minute towards the ref, Sewell, and Decker.  Allen the ref clearly ignores Skipper's presence even.

Only the Lions can make telling a ref you're eligible difficult. They deserved what happened.  The fact reporting eligible is being analyzed tells you all you need to know about how badly the Lions managed to bungle something so simple. 

tower912

#2023
It was part of the deception.   Sewell has caught passes before and lined up outside Skipper.  Skipper never reported eligible as he knew he wasn't.   Part of the play design.

And Skipper wasn't in that particular huddle.   He was running in late from the sideline.

And Campbell had talked to the officials before the game about that play and that formation.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

The Sultan

The ref made an error. But it was one he announced and could have been corrected.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

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