2024-25 NFL Thread

[jficke13]

One step closer to the pending Russell Wilson-Sean Payton blowup

Russel Wilson is such trash.

[GB Warrior]

https://twitter.com/SlipperyPete360/status/1711166324381290711?t=BRc1RtgqLFDv31OiivONhQ&s=19

[JWags85]

One positive out of Denver.  That jersey/helmet combo was A+++

[cheebs09]

https://twitter.com/SlipperyPete360/status/1711166324381290711?t=BRc1RtgqLFDv31OiivONhQ&s=19

In other news, they should move to that logo full-time.

I really thought Payton would turn Wilson around. Can't say I'm sad to see their struggles.

[MUBurrow]

https://twitter.com/SlipperyPete360/status/1711166324381290711?t=BRc1RtgqLFDv31OiivONhQ&s=19

I'm no Russell Wilson defender, but Sean Payton's schtick is beyond tired at this point. 

[Pakuni]

I'm no Russell Wilson defender, but Sean Payton's schtick is beyond tired at this point.

They deserve each other.
And stuck with each other, for probably two more years. Cutting Russell after this season would mean an $85 million dead cap hit. Waiting another year would mean $49.6 million. Year three goes down to a  more manageable $31 million.

[forgetful]

Russel Wilson is such trash.

Wilson is actually playing well (4th in RTG and tied for 2nd in TDs with only 2 INT). Especially given that his entire team is trash.

[Pakuni]

Wilson is actually playing well (4th in RTG and tied for 2nd in TDs with only 2 INT). Especially given that his entire team is trash.

He's an interesting case study in QBR vs quarterback rating.
He's 4th in rating, but 23rd in QBR, behind the likes of Justin Fields, Jimmy G and Sam Howell.

[Uncle Rico]

Wilson is actually playing well (4th in RTG and tied for 2nd in TDs with only 2 INT). Especially given that his entire team is trash.

It's where the numbers lie and you have to trust the eye test.  Who lot of Rodgers in his game

[jesmu84]

Based on roster construction and contracts given, I can't figure out if colts are trying to win now or in a couple years

[Jockey]

I'm no Russell Wilson defender, but Sean Payton's schtick is beyond tired at this point.

Payton is another guy who became a 'great' coach by having a Hall of Fame QB.

I've never seen him as anything other than an average coach with a huge ego.

[Uncle Rico]

Payton is another guy who became a 'great' coach by having a Hall of Fame QB.

I've never seen him as anything other than an average coach with a huge ego.

A lot of that reputation comes from an onside kick

[GB Warrior]

Payton is another guy who became a 'great' coach by having a Hall of Fame QB.

I've never seen him as anything other than an average coach with a huge ego.

No doubt in my mind the Packers got it right with McCarthy instead of Payton

[JWags85]

Payton is another guy who became a 'great' coach by having a Hall of Fame QB.

I've never seen him as anything other than an average coach with a huge ego.

He certainly has an ego outsized for his accomplishments, and people falling all over themselves to hire him was silly, but I certainly don't think he's an average coach. 

But that's a bit of revisionist history with him and Brees.  Before NO, Brees was good, but not good enough that the Chargers selected Rivers in the first round cause they weren't sure if Brees was the guy.  Then the injury that had Brees as damaged goods to the Dolphins and others.  Brees became a star and a HOF in no small part due to Payton's offense and schemes.

Though I do think his offense has gotten a bit stale and it's not 2014 anymore

[Pakuni]

Denver this year has lost to:
Former HC Josh McDaniels
Former HC Vic Fangio
Former HC Nathan Hackett
(And, gor good measure, former DC Jack del Rio and former ball boy Mike McDaniels).

[MU82]

The Panthers are not just 0-5, but also 0-5 against the spread. They are 13.5-point underdogs at Miami this week. They will be missing at least half their starting secondary and probably 3/4 of it, not to mention their starting MLB and 2 offensive linemen. They suck enough even when fully healthy.

Can Tua & Co. put up 71 points?

[RJax55]

The Panthers are not just 0-5, but also 0-5 against the spread. They are 13.5-point underdogs at Miami this week. They will be missing at least half their starting secondary and probably 3/4 of it, not to mention their starting MLB and 2 offensive linemen. They suck enough even when fully healthy.

Can Tua & Co. put up 71 points?

Frank Reich's comments this week were very interesting. Not often you hear a coach discuss how the owner is involved in the day-to-day of the football operation. Even though Frank was diplomatic in his comments, he definitely pulled back the curtain.

[MU82]

Frank Reich's comments this week were very interesting. Not often you hear a coach discuss how the owner is involved in the day-to-day of the football operation. Even though Frank was diplomatic in his comments, he definitely pulled back the curtain.

Sh!tshow.

[RJax55]

Sh!tshow.

As a Bears fan, I'm enjoying it. The Panthers have no reason to tank, but internal dysfunction is just as good.
 

[MU82]

As a Bears fan, I'm enjoying it. The Panthers have no reason to tank, but internal dysfunction is just as good.

I don't blame you. My son is a big Bears fan and he texts me constantly to make fun of the fact that the worse my team does, the better it is for his. Arg!

[JWags85]

A combination of the Broncos throwbacks this weekend and newly residing in the Tampa/St Pete area and seeing the contrast between "vintage" Bucs gear vs the new pewter and red...

Are there any of the "updated" NFL uniforms that are a definitive upgrade from older retro uniforms? 

Sherbert Bucs >>> pewter and red
Bronco D>>> angry horse
Pat the Patriot >>> current uniforms
Totem Seahawk >>> neon seahawk

[Pakuni]

A combination of the Broncos throwbacks this weekend and newly residing in the Tampa/St Pete area and seeing the contrast between "vintage" Bucs gear vs the new pewter and red...

Are there any of the "updated" NFL uniforms that are a definitive upgrade from older retro uniforms? 

Sherbert Bucs >>> pewter and red
Bronco D>>> angry horse
Pat the Patriot >>> current uniforms
Totem Seahawk >>> neon seahawk

Saints and Vikings are about the only two that come to mind.

[WhiteTrash]

A combination of the Broncos throwbacks this weekend and newly residing in the Tampa/St Pete area and seeing the contrast between "vintage" Bucs gear vs the new pewter and red...

Are there any of the "updated" NFL uniforms that are a definitive upgrade from older retro uniforms? 

Sherbert Bucs >>> pewter and red
Bronco D>>> angry horse
Pat the Patriot >>> current uniforms
Totem Seahawk >>> neon seahawk

I'll double down and say any of the expansion or relocated team's uniforms are not good. Baltimore is the best at a C-. The rest look like they came from a $100 logo design website.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

A combination of the Broncos throwbacks this weekend and newly residing in the Tampa/St Pete area and seeing the contrast between "vintage" Bucs gear vs the new pewter and red...

Are there any of the "updated" NFL uniforms that are a definitive upgrade from older retro uniforms? 

Sherbert Bucs >>> pewter and red
Bronco D>>> angry horse
Pat the Patriot >>> current uniforms
Totem Seahawk >>> neon seahawk

I actually prefer all of the newer ones.

I do think the older Eagles unis with the brighter green were better.

[WhiteTrash]

I actually prefer all of the newer ones.

Goes to show you, you can't teach good taste.