2024-25 NFL Thread

[Uncle Rico]

And until the end of his career, played on some really bad teams.

During his career, he caught passes from Randy Wright, Don Majkowski, Blair Kiel and Mike Tomczak and Anthony Dilweg

[The Sultan]

During his career, he caught passes from Randy Wright, Don Majkowski, Blair Kiel and Mike Tomczak and Anthony Dilweg

You're giving me flashbacks. Not good ones.

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

I think if you're willing to look beyond the stats, for which there's an obvious case for Lamar, there's a fair argument that Allen was more valuable to his team in an "achieved more with less" kind of way. No doubt voter fatigue played a part, but even without fatigue there's still a reasonable case to be made for Allen.

MVP of his team vs MVP of the league?

Would the ravens have been better than the Bills if both QBs got raptured?

Ravens and Bills both had top half defenses (Ravens better). Should that affect voting on "most valuable"?

Some say yes, some say no.

God the semantics of this award this year are fantastic. I cherish every minute of this debate.

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

Hey dude - I only put that in my post so i wouldn't get a lame reply how MVP is voted on before the playoffs.

The world Lame is ableist

[MU1in77]

When I opened the Milwaukee Journal app this morning the lead article in the sports section was that Mike Holmgren now has a yellow jacket to go with his 3 Super Bowl rings. I skimmed down and saw another article on Sterling Sharpe being voted into the hall. Reading thru that article it mentioned that Holmgren did not receive the necessary votes. I found that weird so went to ESPN and saw no mention of Holmgren getting in. A little later the original article on Holmgren was gone. How does that happen?

[cheebs09]

I think its pretty incredible that in a world of stats obsession for the HOF, especially counting stats, a guy who only played 7 seasons and retired before 30 made the HOF. 

The NFL isn't as bad about it as MLB, but still, pretty awesome acknowledgment of a guy who in his short peak was arguably the best WR in football for stretches, and the only other person in that discussion is thought by many to be the best WR ever.

It feels like Terrell Davis helped break that seal. He's kind of the textbook short career but great accomplishments.

[WhiteTrash]

It feels like Terrell Davis helped break that seal. He's kind of the textbook short career but great accomplishments.

Gale Sayers?

[Uncle Rico]

Gayle Sayers?

Gale?

[cheebs09]

Gayle Sayers?

Yeah, that's probably the true breaking of the seal. Davis is just far more recent so figured him getting in made it more likely for current guys.

[The Sultan]

Gale?

He went trans just before he died. Not many people know.

[Uncle Rico]

He went trans just before he died. Not many people know.

Lucky he's dead

[The Sultan]

RIP to Dick Jauron.

One of my favorite talk show moments was listeing to WSCR broadcasting live from Platteville during Bears training camp, and they were going to take calls for what the motto of the camp should be.

The first call, from someone with the most stereotypical Chicago accent possible, said "The Chicago Bears...that's my Dick Jauron."

They didn't take anymore calls.

[Dish]

When I worked for the Bears, Jauron was the head coach.

Nicest coach/front office person I've ever met. Unassuming, incredibly kind, never would have guessed he was an NFL head coach if you met him in public.

RIP.

[MU82]

Agree. Not a good coach but a very kind man.

I remember that after QB Chris Chandler had a particularly horrible game, Jauron said Chandler had "one of his less-good games."

Dick Jauron was too nice a guy to use the word "bad."

[Uncle Rico]

I have zero feel for this game but I have largely avoided any of the tv heads yelling about it so I'll say

Birds 29 Chefs 23

[HutchwasClutch]

I have zero feel for this game but I have largely avoided any of the tv heads yelling about it so I'll say

Birds 29 Chefs 23

Chiefs will win. Their defense is underrated and if you can keep Barkley from going off, I just don't think Hurts is good enough.  Plus, all Mahomes and Reid do are win the big games, save for a couple exceptions.  They're the anti-Rodgers. 

[Uncle Rico]

Chiefs will win. Their defense is underrated and if you can keep Barkley from going off, I just don't think Hurts is good enough.  Plus, all Mahomes and Reid do are win the big games, save for a couple exceptions.  They're the anti-Rodgers. 

I keep waiting for Hurts to cost them but he hasn't.  Maybe today.  Eagles defense is damn good, too

[The Sultan]

I keep waiting for Hurts to cost them but he hasn't.  Maybe today.  Eagles defense is damn good, too

If they get pressure on Mahomes without blitzing, I think the Eagles win.

[Pakuni]

If they get pressure on Mahomes without blitzing, I think the Eagles win.

Yeah, it's a cliche to say you can beat a great QB by getting pressure with your front four, but it's also true. One of the Chiefs' main weaknesses this year has been protecting Mahomes (he was sacked/hit/hurried 152 times ... for comparison's sake, that number was 162 for Caleb Williams).


The Eagles blitz very little  - 19.1% of the time, 27th in the league - so if their front four can have success, I like their chances. Same as Tampa a few years ago, when they hounded Mahomes all game while blitzing only 9.6% of dropbacks.

[tower912]

Is that today? 

[MU82]

Yeah, it's a cliche to say you can beat a great QB by getting pressure with your front four, but it's also true. One of the Chiefs' main weaknesses this year has been protecting Mahomes (he was sacked/hit/hurried 152 times ... for comparison's sake, that number was 162 for Caleb Williams).


The Eagles blitz very little  - 19.1% of the time, 27th in the league - so if their front four can have success, I like their chances. Same as Tampa a few years ago, when they hounded Mahomes all game while blitzing only 9.6% of dropbacks.

Agree with all of this. But Mahomes was a relative kid then, and he is so much better now at using his feet to get exactly where he needs to go to either pass or run.

I also agree with Hutch about the Chiefs' defense being underrated. Everybody talks about Philly's D (and for good reason) and Mahomes (for good reason). But in addition to being able to pressure opposing QBs, Kansas City led the NFL in fewest missed tackles - and that tackling ability should serve them well when facing Barkley and Hurts. Plus, they have the best defensive coordinator in the league.

I'm going with Chiefs 23, Eagles 20.

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

Is that today? 

Oh is sportsball on?

[MuggsyB]

It seems to me that Philly has the better team.  I hope I'm wrong.  Hopefully the game is competitive. 

[Uncle Rico]

It seems to me that Philly has the better team.  I hope I'm wrong.  Hopefully the game is competitive. 

I'm boycotting because of the NFL's hiring policies

[The Sultan]

I turned it off when "Lift Every Voice and Sing" came on.