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Uncle Rico

Quote from: Pakuni on November 12, 2024, 01:28:59 PMWilliams has had 2.4 seconds of average pocket team, which is 16th in the league.
Other QBs getting 2.4 seconds on average include:
Jayden Daniels
Kyler Murray
Jared Goff
CJ Stroud
Justin Herbert
Kirk Cousins
Matthew Stafford

The Bears O-line isn't great, but it's far from the only problem. Williams isn't getting rid of the ball on time and creating a lot of his own problems as a result.

https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/advanced-stats-qb.php

If it is true some vets were grousing about him still starting, I'd guess they're seeing things where Williams is definitely part of the problem.
Guster is for Lovers

Jockey

Fields taught Caleb how to read defenses.

Dish

One thing I disagreed with from the jump was making Williams a captain for his rookie season. Call me old school, but I really believe you have to earn being a captain, and also at the same time, you need to pay your dues as a rookie. I'm not one for taping rookies to goalposts or hazing to that degree, but I think just making a rookie a captain can lead to jealousy and bad things in a locker room. I have no idea if Williams feels/acts with a sense of entitlement, but I guarantee there are guys in the Bears locker room that don't like it.





jesmu84

Quote from: Pakuni on November 12, 2024, 01:28:59 PMWilliams has had 2.4 seconds of average pocket time, which is 16th in the league.
Other QBs getting 2.4 seconds on average include:
Jayden Daniels
Kyler Murray
Jared Goff
CJ Stroud
Justin Herbert
Kirk Cousins
Matthew Stafford

The Bears O-line isn't great, but it's far from the only problem. Williams isn't getting rid of the ball on time and creating a lot of his own problems as a result.

https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/advanced-stats-qb.php

https://x.com/Nate_Tice/status/1856377448348430776

Shaka Shart

Quote from: Pakuni on November 12, 2024, 01:28:59 PMWilliams has had 2.4 seconds of average pocket time, which is 16th in the league.
Other QBs getting 2.4 seconds on average include:
Jayden Daniels
Kyler Murray
Jared Goff
CJ Stroud
Justin Herbert
Kirk Cousins
Matthew Stafford

The Bears O-line isn't great, but it's far from the only problem. Williams isn't getting rid of the ball on time and creating a lot of his own problems as a result.

https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/advanced-stats-qb.php

Williams is far from blameless here (totally agree about holding onto the ball) but those 2.4 secs are against a 4th place schedule of defenses and anemic slow tempo play calling from an OC who was so bad even the Bears decided to fire him mid season.

Not all pockets are created equal
" There are two things I can consistently smell.    Poop and Chlorine.  All poop smells like acrid baby poop mixed with diaper creme. And almost anything that smells remotely like poop; porta-johns, water filtration plants, fertilizer, etc., smells exactly the same." - Tower912

Re: COVID-19

Shaka Shart

" There are two things I can consistently smell.    Poop and Chlorine.  All poop smells like acrid baby poop mixed with diaper creme. And almost anything that smells remotely like poop; porta-johns, water filtration plants, fertilizer, etc., smells exactly the same." - Tower912

Re: COVID-19

Pakuni

Bears cut Nate Davis, after he showed up Sunday and said he couldn't play, despite not reporting an injury all week.

Jockey

Quote from: Pakuni on November 13, 2024, 11:07:04 AMBears cut Nate Davis, after he showed up Sunday and said he couldn't play, despite not reporting an injury all week.

I think he meant he didn't want to play - for the Bears. He'll sign somewhere else.

MU82

I watch as little of the Bears as possible, but when I saw the "highlights" of the 9 sacks, almost all of them were on dropbacks.

Haven't the Bears taken advantage of Williams' mobility by using lots of rollouts, the way the Steelers do with Wilson and the Bills often do with Allen?

If not, it might explain one of the many reasons the OC was canned.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

WhiteTrash

Quote from: MU82 on November 13, 2024, 12:43:48 PMI watch as little of the Bears as possible, but when I saw the "highlights" of the 9 sacks, almost all of them were on dropbacks.

Haven't the Bears taken advantage of Williams' mobility by using lots of rollouts, the way the Steelers do with Wilson and the Bills often do with Allen?

If not, it might explain one of the many reasons the OC was canned.
It seems Waldron and the Bears wanted him to develop as a pocket passer first and foremost. I agree with the desire for longevity, but it makes sense to leverage his mobility to a greater degree at this point in his career, especially behind the Bears' O-line.

But the Bears have proven they are smarter than the Bills, Ravens and Chiefs, so who are we to question them. ::) 

Pakuni

Quote from: Jockey on November 13, 2024, 11:36:41 AMI think he meant he didn't want to play - for the Bears. He'll sign somewhere else.

Not so sure. He was a malcontent in Tennessee before the Bears chose to give him $20 million.

wadesworld

I remember when Caleb said the Bears won't be punting much this year.  Fast forward to half way through the season and the Bears have more punting yards than Caleb has total yards.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: Holy hell all time on November 13, 2024, 02:29:42 PMI remember when Caleb said the Bears won't be punting much this year.  Fast forward to half way through the season and the Bears have more punting yards than Caleb has total yards.
:o

Shaka Shart

Quote from: Holy hell all time on November 13, 2024, 02:29:42 PMI remember when Caleb said the Bears won't be punting much this year.  Fast forward to half way through the season and the Bears have more punting yards than Caleb has total yards.


The only thing I have left at this point is at least my qb doesn't choose to promote and emulate a harasser and welfare fraud.
" There are two things I can consistently smell.    Poop and Chlorine.  All poop smells like acrid baby poop mixed with diaper creme. And almost anything that smells remotely like poop; porta-johns, water filtration plants, fertilizer, etc., smells exactly the same." - Tower912

Re: COVID-19

MU82

As ridiculous controversies go, it's hard to get more ridiculous than the Michael Strahan-not-putting-hand-on-heart-during-national-anthem controversy.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Uncle Rico

Harrison Butker has been placed on the IR and the Chiefs have signed Jets K Spencer Shrader off their practice squad.

Guster is for Lovers

Pakuni

Quote from: MU82 on November 14, 2024, 11:31:48 AMAs ridiculous controversies go, it's hard to get more ridiculous than the Michael Strahan-not-putting-hand-on-heart-during-national-anthem controversy.

Google "Georgia Jake Pope"

MU82

Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 14, 2024, 03:58:22 PMHarrison Butker has been placed on the IR



Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

PGsHeroes32

Jalen Hurts wooooooooooooof


Eagles need the half time break to regroup bad
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

PGsHeroes32

What a season for Barkley. And its given me a wagon of a FF team this year
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

MU82

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on November 14, 2024, 10:08:22 PMWhat a season for Barkley. And its given me a wagon of a FF team this year

The resurgence of running backs has been an interesting development this season.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Lennys Tap

Quote from: MU82 on November 14, 2024, 11:31:48 AMAs ridiculous controversies go, it's hard to get more ridiculous than the Michael Strahan-not-putting-hand-on-heart-during-national-anthem controversy.

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