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jesmu84

Quote from: Jockey on November 11, 2024, 12:10:19 PMquote author=jesmu84 link=msg=1686539 date=1731347208]
What's wrong with that quote?


Everything?  :)

The OL is one part of an offense.

jesmu84

Eberflus says nothing.

Organization does nothing.

No accountability.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: jesmu84 on November 11, 2024, 12:26:56 PMEberflus says nothing.

Organization does nothing.

No accountability.

Yeah, well, it's the Bears.

WhiteTrash

Packers -6 @ CHI????? Vegas hates the Packers.

Jockey

Quote from: jesmu84 on November 11, 2024, 12:26:31 PMThe OL is one part of an offense.

His statement was to a specific question about the OL.


Jockey

Quote from: jesmu84 on November 11, 2024, 12:26:56 PMEberflus says nothing.

Organization does nothing.

No accountability.

The problems come from way farther up the ladder than Flus. If they fire him, Trace Armstrong will make another decision for HC and it won't get better.


jesmu84

Quote from: Jockey on November 11, 2024, 02:10:37 PMHis statement was to a specific question about the OL.



I know that.

I guess I'm wondering why you posted that quote today? What's the relevance?


RJax55

Quote from: jesmu84 on November 11, 2024, 02:49:45 PMhttps://x.com/kfishbain/status/1855969509615501744?t=DLJ5HRsvA83fOaTfur8guA&s=19

Franchise is a joke

The franchise is a joke, however that "established power coaches" is code for Bill Belichick. He ain't curing the Bears problems.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: RJax55 on November 11, 2024, 02:53:52 PMThe franchise is a joke, however that "established power coaches" is code for Bill Belichick. He ain't curing the Bears problems.
That would blow the minds of the players who are used to the Flus Knitting Circle and Pot Luck Lunch.    "You get a hug........ and you get a hug.... and you all get a hug"

SoCalEagle

Rams v Dolphins tonight. 

Go Rams!!!

GB Warrior

Is this the same Kevin Warren working day in and day out to not succeed in securing a new stadium?

The Sultan

I was driving around listening to the Score today and it was mentioned that Poles prefers quarterbacks that are full "pro-set." So it's a traditional pocket style where the quarterback has a large latitude to change plays and that he's just overwhelmed.

They mentioned that this is why OC conversations likely went nowhere with Kingsbury last Spring. His style is similar to that of MLF in that the quarterback isn't usually given that degree of latitude. So Daniels is succeeding so far because he isn't asked to do too much.
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WhiteTrash

How bad is it going to get for the Bears?

They have had the easiest schedule so far, but are projected to end the season with the most difficult 17 game schedule in the NFL.

Its not going to get hard, its going to get mid-evil for them.

The Sultan

Shane Waldron fired this morning.
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Uncle Rico

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 12, 2024, 08:22:24 AMShane Waldron fired this morning.

Interesting to promote Bryce Young's OC from 2023.  That said, Brown has been a highly regarded guy for awhile
"Well, we're all going to die."

WhiteTrash

Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 12, 2024, 08:31:10 AMInteresting to promote Bryce Young's OC from 2023.  That said, Brown has been a highly regarded guy for awhile
This will not change anything meaningfully. Don't get me wrong, Waldron deserved to be fired, it's just a desperation move by Flus to save his job and it will not work. The O-line is a joke from a talent and execution perspective.

I think Flus is a good to very good D coordinator and will be employed next year, but he has proven to be an terrible HC based upon his hires and lack of respect from his players. 

MuggsyB

Quote from: WhiteTrash on November 12, 2024, 08:39:45 AMThis will not change anything meaningfully. Don't get me wrong, Waldron deserved to be fired, it's just a desperation move by Flus to save his job and it will not work. The O-line is a joke from a talent and execution perspective.

I think Flus is a good to very good D coordinator and will be employed next year, but he has proven to be an terrible HC based upon his hires and lack of respect from his players. 

Spot on analysis.  Get rid of Flus.  Now. 

Uncle Rico

Quote from: WhiteTrash on November 12, 2024, 08:39:45 AMThis will not change anything meaningfully. Don't get me wrong, Waldron deserved to be fired, it's just a desperation move by Flus to save his job and it will not work. The O-line is a joke from a talent and execution perspective.

I think Flus is a good to very good D coordinator and will be employed next year, but he has proven to be an terrible HC based upon his hires and lack of respect from his players. 

You're probably right. Will be curious to hear any player thoughts
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MuggsyB

Poles needs to be dismissed.  Where is George M?

WhiteTrash

Quote from: MuggsyB on November 12, 2024, 09:05:40 AMPoles needs to be dismissed.  Where is George M?
Ownership is a problem but that is a pointless argument as nothing will change near term.

I thought Poles was decent, some good, some bad, but more positive than negative. The decision to retain Flus has turn into a disaster. Personally, I did not complain about it at the time (too focused on getting Williams I suppose), but Poles clearly missed what was going on right under his own nose. He should be held accountable. Alas, he will be given the opportunity to fix it with his hire this off season. I don't have high hopes.

WhiteTrash

Flus' command of the locker room on full display with his players going public on the QB situation:
Per Marc Silverman with ESPN, veteran players are asking for their team captain to be benched in favor of second-year quarterback Tyson Bagent.

"After talking to a few people with knowledge of the situation, players went to Matt Eberflus & Ryan Poles asking them to make a change at offensive coordinator," Silverman wrote. "There have also been a few veteran players requesting Bagent starts."


The guy has lost all credibility. Jump on Packers -6.

The Sultan

Quote from: Pakuni on November 11, 2024, 12:20:59 PMAlas, no.
And you shouldn't. Williams isn't going to get better watching Tyson Bagent play.

I'm not actually sure about that. If he is overwhelmed from what he is seeing out there, and his coaching is imcompetant, it may not be a bad idea for him to take a couple weeks off. Bryce Young did that and he has had a couple decent outings in the meantime.

Or they have to simplify the offense for him.
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Shaka Shart

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 12, 2024, 10:16:37 AMI'm not actually sure about that. If he is overwhelmed from what he is seeing out there, and his coaching is imcompetant, it may not be a bad idea for him to take a couple weeks off. Bryce Young did that and he has had a couple decent outings in the meantime.

Or they have to simplify the offense for him.

Is having 1.5 seconds to throw the ball every play really going to make him better?
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Pakuni

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Quote from: Hidden User on November 12, 2024, 11:45:02 AMIs having 1.5 seconds to throw the ball every play really going to make him better?

Williams has had 2.4 seconds of average pocket time, which is 16th in the league.
Other QBs getting 2.4 seconds on average include:
Jayden Daniels
Kyler Murray
Jared Goff
CJ Stroud
Justin Herbert
Kirk Cousins
Matthew Stafford

The Bears O-line isn't great, but it's far from the only problem. Williams isn't getting rid of the ball on time and creating a lot of his own problems as a result.

https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/advanced-stats-qb.php

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